Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

High Bilirubin (gilbert's Syndrome) Linked To Celiac? And Other Questions


Pegleg84

Recommended Posts

Pegleg84 Collaborator

Hello everyone,

I've posted here a few times, as I have been sitting on the fence as to weather I could have celiac or not. A bit of history, for those who will ask: have been suffering mild GI problems for a few years, as well as anemia-like symptoms, depression, etc. In the past year or so these have gotten worse and it has to be either a: increase in food intolerances, like garlic, onions, spicy food, etc; b. celiac; c. something else crazy. I'm only 25.

My mother and sister both have the disease, as well as one aunt on my mom's side, and and aunt and uncle on my father's side. My sister's blood test results were negative, but her biopsy was positive. I have had bloodwork for celiac done twice now and it's come back negative, but I'm still not ruling it out.

In my most recent bloodwork, my liver bilirubin count was up, and was still up when re-tested. Normal's are 2-18. Mine is 29. It is likely the symptom of a more or less benign condition called Gilbert's syndrome, which my mom had for years and years (since she was my age). Now that she's on the gluten free diet, her count had gone back more or less to normal.

I'm wondering if anyone else has heard of a connection between high bilirubin and celiac? Could this be a red flag?

Also, I am suffering GI problems, developing food intolerances, increased irritability and fatigue, constipation, hemhroids, gas, etc.

I am trying to decide whether to a: get scoped asap and see if there is any sign of celiac damage; or go on the gluten-free diet, see if I'm any better, and then do the gluten challenge to confirm? Or I could try eliminating anything else that could be causing problems (spices, etc)?

Anyway, I mostly want to know about the biliruben thing, but any other advice would be of great help.

thanks

Peggy


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ravenwoodglass Mentor

Celiac disease can impact the liver. There are a number of us who have had those issues resolve as your Mom did. You do sound like you could be one of us. The choice to get scoped is really a personal one. Some are not able to stick to the diet without a doctors confirming with a scope. However there is a false negative risk with the scope as with the blood tests and you would need to try the diet after it was done.

It can really complicate matters when the blood tests are negative. By the way did you see the actual test results or were you just told they were negative? There are times when a doctor will see a reading that is a low positive and consider it a negative. Always get actual copies of the lab results.

There are quite a few folks here who have just done the diet, seen good resolution of issues and just gone with it.

Pegleg84 Collaborator

thanks,

it's good to know that others have had the same problem.

I'm currently beginning an attempted week without gluten just to see if it makes any difference whatsoever (I'm getting tired of feeling like crap after I eat practically anything), and the next time I see my doctor will demand to a: actually see my blood results and find out what the normals are and b: see about getting an endoscopy done asap. It's probably better to get it done, positive or not, and know that even if I could have the disease, I'd know if damage has been caused yet or not. I'm still young, therefore if I do have celiac, I can prevent all kinds of future problems by going on the diet now.

so, I'll keep you all posted, and see if I can cut down on daily stomach pains this week

Brainfog Newbie

That is very interesting about the Gilberts syndrome. I have the same syndrome and have just been tested again for celiac. The test results came back neg, but did not see actual test results. I have not gone 100% to the gluten free diet yet but am starting to get more courage. The problem is my lifestyle needs to be changed dramatically.

jerseyangel Proficient

There is a definate connection for me between my liver and the Celiac. My GI agrees.

Before I was diagnosed, my bilirubin was elevated, and within a few months of going gluten-free, it went back to normal.

Last summer, I was ill quite a bit, and was having trouble putting my finger on exactly what was wrong. Turns out, I had been eating a product that was being made on shared lines with wheat. (the manufacturing practice had changed, it used to be fine)

Co-incidently, at this time my routine bloodwork came back with elevated liver enzymes. A repeat test a week later showed the levels had risen and my bilirubin was up again. I had a battery of tests--ultrasound, endoscopy, liver panels.

Everything came back normal, as did some repeat bloodwork. My GI feels the whole episode was "sprue related".

Some of us just have livers that react to gluten.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - cristiana replied to emzie's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      1

      Stomach hurts with movement

    2. - emzie posted a topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      1

      Stomach hurts with movement

    3. - Flash1970 replied to Ginger38's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      3

      Shingles - Could It Be Related to Gluten/ Celiac

    4. 0

      NCA Tennessee/Vanderbilt – Parents & Caregivers of Children with Celiac Virtual Meeting

    5. 0

      NCA Tennessee/Vanderbilt – Parents & Caregivers of Children with Celiac Virtual Meeting


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,451
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    emzie
    Newest Member
    emzie
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      Hi @emzie and welcome to the forum. Perhaps could be residual inflammation and bloating that is causing sensitivity in that area.  I was diagnosed with coeliac disease in 2013 and I remember some years ago my sister telling me around that time that she had a lady in her church, also a coeliac, who  had real pain when she turned her torso in a certain direction whilst doing exercises, but otherwise was responding well to the gluten-free diet. As far as I know is still the picture of health. I often end up with pain in various parts of my gut if I eat too much rich food or certain types of fibre (for some reasons walnuts make my gut hurt, and rice cakes!) and and as a rule, the pain usually hangs around for a number of days, maybe up to a week.   When I bend over or turn, I can feel it.  I think this is actually due to my other diagnosis of IBS, for years I thought I had a rumbling appendix but I think it must have just been IBS.  Reading the experiences of other sufferers, it seems quite typical.  Sensitized gut, build up of gas - it stands to reason that the extra pressure of turning can increase the pain. When I am glutened I get a burning, gnawing pain in my stomach on and off for some days - it isn't constant, but it can take up a few hours of the day.  I believe this to be gastritis, but it seems to hurt irrespective of movement.   Anyway, you are doing the right thing to seek a professional opinion, though, so do let us know how you get on.   Meanwhile, might I suggest you drink peppermint tea, or try slices of fresh ginger in hot water? A lot of IBS sufferers say the former is very helpful in relieving cramps, etc, and the latter is very soothing on the stomach. Cristiana
    • emzie
      Hi! One of the usual symptoms I have with a gluten flare up has deviated a bit and I thought I'd search for advice/opinions here. Also to see if anyone goes through similar stuff. Monday all of a sudden I got really bad pain in my stomach (centre, right under the chest, where the duodenum would be located). I ended up having to throw up for 2 hours, my body was trying to get rid of something from all sides and it was just horrible. Since then I havent been nauseous anymore at all, but the pain has stayed and it always worsens the moment i start moving. The more I move the more it hurts, and when i rest longer it seems to dissapear (no movement). I've had this before, but years ago I think around when I first got diagnosed with coeliac, where each time I moved, my stomach would hurt, to the point where I went to the ER because doctors got freaked out. That only lasted 1 night though, and Now it's already wednesday, so 3 days since then, but the pain persists and remains leveled. it doesn't get crazy intense, but it's still uncomfortable to the point I cant really go out because Im afraid itll turn into a giant flare up again. I couldn't think of where I could possibly have been glutened at this bad of a level and why it hasn't passed yet. I went to the GP, and as long as I have no fever and the pain isnt insane then its fine which I havent had yet. Tomorrow im also seeing a gastroenterologist specialized in IBS and coeliac for the first time finally in years, but I thought I'd ask on here anyway because it still hasnt dissapeared. It also hurts when someone presses on it. Maybe it's just really inflamed/irritated. I'm just frustrated because I'm missing out on my uni lectures and I do a sports bachelor, so I can't get behind on stuff & next to that i'm also going to go to the beach with my boyfriend's family this weekend: ( 
    • Flash1970
      Hi. So sorry to hear about your shingles. There is a lidocaine cream that you can get at Walmart that will help numb the pain.  That's what I used for mine. It can't be put near your eyes or in your ears. I hope your doctor gave you valacyclovir which is an antiviral.  It does lessen the symptoms. If it is in your eyes,  see an ophthalmologist.  They have an antiviral eye drop that can be prescribed.  Shingles in the eye could cause blindness.  I was unsure whether you have celiac or not.  If you do,  follow the diet.  I believe that extra stress on your body does affect everything. Shingles can recur. If you start getting the warning signs of nerves tingling,  see the dr and start taking the valacyclovir to prevent a breakout. If I sound technical,  I am a retired pharmacist. 
    • Scott Adams
      You are right to be proactive, as research does indicate that individuals with celiac disease can have a higher predisposition to enamel defects, cavities, and periodontal issues, even with excellent oral hygiene. While many people with celiac successfully undergo orthodontic treatment without complication, your caution is valid. It may be beneficial to seek a consultation with an orthodontist who is familiar with managing patients with autoimmune conditions or who is willing to collaborate with your daughter's gastroenterologist or a periodontist. They can perform a thorough assessment of her current oral health, discuss your specific concerns about recession and decay, and create a tailored hygiene plan. This second opinion could provide a clearer risk-benefit analysis, helping you decide if addressing the cosmetic concern of the lower teeth is worth the potential risks for your daughter, especially if they are not currently affecting function or her confidence. 
    • Scott Adams
      This is an older article, but still helpful:  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.