Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

High Bilirubin (gilbert's Syndrome) Linked To Celiac? And Other Questions


Pegleg84

Recommended Posts

Pegleg84 Collaborator

Hello everyone,

I've posted here a few times, as I have been sitting on the fence as to weather I could have celiac or not. A bit of history, for those who will ask: have been suffering mild GI problems for a few years, as well as anemia-like symptoms, depression, etc. In the past year or so these have gotten worse and it has to be either a: increase in food intolerances, like garlic, onions, spicy food, etc; b. celiac; c. something else crazy. I'm only 25.

My mother and sister both have the disease, as well as one aunt on my mom's side, and and aunt and uncle on my father's side. My sister's blood test results were negative, but her biopsy was positive. I have had bloodwork for celiac done twice now and it's come back negative, but I'm still not ruling it out.

In my most recent bloodwork, my liver bilirubin count was up, and was still up when re-tested. Normal's are 2-18. Mine is 29. It is likely the symptom of a more or less benign condition called Gilbert's syndrome, which my mom had for years and years (since she was my age). Now that she's on the gluten free diet, her count had gone back more or less to normal.

I'm wondering if anyone else has heard of a connection between high bilirubin and celiac? Could this be a red flag?

Also, I am suffering GI problems, developing food intolerances, increased irritability and fatigue, constipation, hemhroids, gas, etc.

I am trying to decide whether to a: get scoped asap and see if there is any sign of celiac damage; or go on the gluten-free diet, see if I'm any better, and then do the gluten challenge to confirm? Or I could try eliminating anything else that could be causing problems (spices, etc)?

Anyway, I mostly want to know about the biliruben thing, but any other advice would be of great help.

thanks

Peggy


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



ravenwoodglass Mentor

Celiac disease can impact the liver. There are a number of us who have had those issues resolve as your Mom did. You do sound like you could be one of us. The choice to get scoped is really a personal one. Some are not able to stick to the diet without a doctors confirming with a scope. However there is a false negative risk with the scope as with the blood tests and you would need to try the diet after it was done.

It can really complicate matters when the blood tests are negative. By the way did you see the actual test results or were you just told they were negative? There are times when a doctor will see a reading that is a low positive and consider it a negative. Always get actual copies of the lab results.

There are quite a few folks here who have just done the diet, seen good resolution of issues and just gone with it.

Pegleg84 Collaborator

thanks,

it's good to know that others have had the same problem.

I'm currently beginning an attempted week without gluten just to see if it makes any difference whatsoever (I'm getting tired of feeling like crap after I eat practically anything), and the next time I see my doctor will demand to a: actually see my blood results and find out what the normals are and b: see about getting an endoscopy done asap. It's probably better to get it done, positive or not, and know that even if I could have the disease, I'd know if damage has been caused yet or not. I'm still young, therefore if I do have celiac, I can prevent all kinds of future problems by going on the diet now.

so, I'll keep you all posted, and see if I can cut down on daily stomach pains this week

Brainfog Newbie

That is very interesting about the Gilberts syndrome. I have the same syndrome and have just been tested again for celiac. The test results came back neg, but did not see actual test results. I have not gone 100% to the gluten free diet yet but am starting to get more courage. The problem is my lifestyle needs to be changed dramatically.

jerseyangel Proficient

There is a definate connection for me between my liver and the Celiac. My GI agrees.

Before I was diagnosed, my bilirubin was elevated, and within a few months of going gluten-free, it went back to normal.

Last summer, I was ill quite a bit, and was having trouble putting my finger on exactly what was wrong. Turns out, I had been eating a product that was being made on shared lines with wheat. (the manufacturing practice had changed, it used to be fine)

Co-incidently, at this time my routine bloodwork came back with elevated liver enzymes. A repeat test a week later showed the levels had risen and my bilirubin was up again. I had a battery of tests--ultrasound, endoscopy, liver panels.

Everything came back normal, as did some repeat bloodwork. My GI feels the whole episode was "sprue related".

Some of us just have livers that react to gluten.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - hjayne19 replied to hjayne19's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      11

      Insomnia help

    2. - xxnonamexx replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      43

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      45

      Severe severe mouth pain

    4. - Lkg5 replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      45

      Severe severe mouth pain

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,098
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    BothySmithy
    Newest Member
    BothySmithy
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • hjayne19
      Hi @knitty kitty  Just revisiting this to get some help. I found after understanding the extent of my anxiety, my sleep got a little better. Flash forward to a few weeks later I have had a few bad sleeps in a row and I feel desperate for a good nights sleep. I understand worrying about it won’t help but one thing I had tied things too was dairy. Initially when I went gluten free I felt great for the first few weeks then started having some stomach pain. So thought maybe I was lactose intolerant. I started eating lactose free Greek yogurt and that did help take the cramping away I guess. Over the last few months I haven’t eaten it every single day and I went a few weeks without it. The last few nights I did have a small amount with breakfast and noticed that was the only new thing I’ve really added to my diet. I had seen a few other posts about this. Is it possible to still react to lactose free? Would this potentially be a dairy allergy? Or something else. 
    • xxnonamexx
      I have taken the vitamins for a week. Haven't noticed any major changes but I will give it more time to see.
    • knitty kitty
      @Charlie1946,  Sorry I sidetracked your thread a bit.  Apologies. Proton pump inhibitors, like Omeprazole, change the pH in our gastrointestinal systems which allows opportunistic microbes to move in and take over.  Have you been checked for SIBO?  There's a significant link between length of Omeprazole use and SIBO.  I had SIBO, thrush (Candida) and lichen planus and other problems while I was on Omeprazole.  I had to stop taking it.  It was a horrible time, so I understand how painful and frustrating it is.   You change your microbiome (the bacteria and microbes living inside you) by changing what you eat.  They eat what you eat.  Change the menu and you get different customers.   I changed my diet.  I cut out dairy because I was reacting to the casein and lactose.  I cut out all processed foods and most carbohydrates. I ate meat and veggies mostly, some fruit like apples and mandarin oranges.  By cutting out all the excess carbohydrates, lactose, and empty carbs in processed gluten-free foods, the opportunistic microbes get starved out.  SIBO bacteria send chemical messages to our brains demanding more carbs, so be prepared for carb cravings, but don't let the microbiome control you!   The skin and digestive system is continuous.  The health of our outside skin reflects the health of our gastrointestinal system.  Essential B vitamins, like Thiamine B 1 and especially Niacin B 3, are needed to repair intestinal damage and keep bad bacteria in check.  Niacin helps improve not only the intestinal tract, but also the skin.  Sebaceous Hyperplasia is linked to being low in Niacin B 3.  Lichen Planus is treated with Niacinamide, a form of Niacin B 3.   Vitamins are chemical compounds that our bodies cannot make.  We must get them from our food.  If our food isn't digested well (low stomach acid from Omeprazole causes poor digestion), then vitamins aren't released well.  Plus there's a layer of SIBO bacteria absorbing our vitamins first between the food we've eaten and our inflamed and damaged villi that may have difficulty absorbing the vitamins.  So, taking vitamin supplements is a way to boost absorption of essential nutrients that will allow the body to fight off the microbes, repair and heal.   Doctors are taught in medical learning institutions funded by pharmaceutical companies.  The importance of nutrition is downplayed and called old fashioned.  Doctors are taught we have plenty to eat, so no one gets nutritional deficiency diseases anymore.  But we do, as people with Celiac disease, with impaired absorption.  Nutritional needs need to be addressed first with us.  Vitamins cannot be patented because they are natural substances.  But pharmaceutical drugs can be.  There's more money to be made selling pharmaceutical drugs than vitamins.   Makes me wonder how much illness could be prevented if people were screened for Celiac disease much earlier in life, instead of after they've been ill and medicated for years.   Talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing essential vitamins and minerals.   Interesting Reading: The Duration of Proton Pump Inhibitor Therapy and the Risk of Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12250812/#:~:text=The long-term use of,overgrowth dynamics is less clear. Lichenoid drug eruption with proton pump inhibitors https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC27275/ Nicotinamide: A Multifaceted Molecule in Skin Health and Beyond https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857428/
    • Lkg5
      My sebaceous hyperplasia and thrush disappeared when I stopped all dairy.
    • Charlie1946
      @knitty kitty Thank you so much for all that information! I will be sure to check it out and ask my doctor.  I am just at a loss, I am on my 2nd round of miracle mouthwash and I brush and scrape my tongue and (sorry this is gross) it's still coated in the middle 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.