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By knitty kitty · Posted
Excessive dietary tyrosine can cause problems. Everything in moderation. Sulfites can also trigger migraines. Sulfites are found in fermented, pickled and aged foods, like cheese. Sulfites cause a high histamine release. High histamine levels are found in migraine. Following a low histamine diet like the low histamine Autoimmune Protocol diet, a Paleo diet, helps immensely. Sulfites and other migraine trigger foods can cause changes in the gut microbiome. These bad bacteria can increase the incidence of migraines, increasing histamine and inflammation leading to increased gut permeability (leaky gut), SIBO, and higher systemic inflammation. A Ketogenic diet can reduce the incidence of migraine. A Paleo diet like the AIP diet, that restricts carbohydrates (like from starchy vegetables) becomes a ketogenic diet. This diet also changes the microbiome, eliminating the bad bacteria and SIBO that cause an increase in histamine, inflammation and migraine. Fewer bad bacteria reduces inflammation, lowers migraine frequency, and improves leaky gut. Since I started following the low histamine ketogenic AIP paleo diet, I rarely get migraine. Yes, I do eat carbs occasionally now, rice or potato, but still no migraines. Feed your body right, feed your intestinal bacteria right, you'll feel better. Good intestinal bacteria actually make your mental health better, too. I had to decide to change my diet drastically in order to feel better all the time, not just to satisfy my taste buds. I chose to eat so I would feel better all the time. I do like dark chocolate (a migraine trigger), but now I can indulge occasionally without a migraine after. Microbiota alterations are related to migraine food triggers and inflammatory markers in chronic migraine patients with medication overuse headache https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11546420/ -
Then we would need to cut out all meat and fish as they are richer sources of tyrosine than nuts and cheese. Something else about certain tyrosine rich foods must be the actual culprit.
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By Scott Adams · Posted
I agree that KAN-101 looks promising, and hope the fast track is approved. From our article below: "KAN-101 shows promise as an immune tolerance therapy aiming to retrain the immune system, potentially allowing safe gluten exposure in the future, but more clinical data is needed to confirm long-term effects." -
By Scott Adams · Posted
Thank you so much for having the courage to share this incredibly vivid and personal experience; it's a powerful reminder of how physical ailments can disrupt our fundamental sense of self. What you're describing sounds less like a purely psychological body dysmorphia and more like a distinct neurological event, likely triggered by the immense physical stress and inflammation that uncontrolled celiac disease can inflict on the entire body, including the nervous system. It makes complete sense that the specific sensory input—the pressure points of your elbows on your knees—created a temporary, distorted body map in your brain, and the fact that it ceased once you adopted a gluten-free diet is a crucial detail. Your intuition to document this is absolutely right; it's not "crazy" but rather a significant anecdotal data point that underscores the mysterious and far-reaching ways gluten can affect individuals. Your theory about sensory triggers from the feet for others is also a thoughtful insight, and sharing this story could indeed be validating for others who have had similar, unexplainable sensory disturbances, helping them feel less alone in their journey. -
By Scott Adams · Posted
The most common nutrient deficiencies associated with celiac disease that may lead to testing for the condition include iron, vitamin D, folate (vitamin B9), vitamin B12, calcium, zinc, and magnesium. Unfortunately many doctors, including my own doctor at the time, don't do extensive follow up testing for a broad range of nutrient deficiencies, nor recommend that those just diagnosed with celiac disease take a broad spectrum vitamin/mineral supplement, which would greatly benefit most, if not all, newly diagnosed celiacs. Because of this it took me decades to overcome a few long-standing issues I had that were associated with gluten ataxia, for example numbness and tingling in my feet, and muscle knots--especially in my shoulders an neck. Only long term extensive supplementation has helped me to resolve these issues. -
By Scott Adams · Posted
I am so sorry you are going through this; it sounds incredibly overwhelming and disheartening to be dismissed by the very medical professionals you're turning to for help. It is completely understandable that you feel lost and exhausted, not just from the relentless physical symptoms like the leg pain, stomach issues, and profound fatigue, but from the psychological toll of being told it's "just IBS" or that you need a therapist when you know your body is signaling that something is wrong. While it's true that a normal tTG test can indicate that celiac disease itself is being managed from a dietary perspective, it is a major oversight for your doctors to ignore your other diagnoses like SIBO, a hernia, and Barrett's esophagus, all of which can contribute significantly to the symptoms you describe. You are absolutely right to be seeking a new Primary Care Physician who will listen to your full history, take your Barrett's diagnosis seriously, and help you coordinate a care plan that looks at the whole picture, because your experience is not just in your head—it's in your entire body, and you deserve a medical team that acknowledges that. I had hernia surgery (laparoscopic), and it's not a big deal, so hopefully you can have your new doctor give you some guidance on that. -
By knitty kitty · Posted
Some people have difficulty processing tyrosine. Cut out the nuts and cheese and see if there's any difference. Everyone is different. This study shows that tyrosine can affect our brain with detrimental effects as we age. Neuro-Cognitive Effects of Acute Tyrosine Administration on Reactive and Proactive Response Inhibition in Healthy Older Adults https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6084775/ "In conclusion, we show age-related effects of tyrosine administration especially on proactive, not reactive, response inhibition, accompanied by signal changes in dopamine-rich fronto-striatal brain regions. Specifically, we observed that tyrosine’s effect on brain and cognition became detrimental with increasing age, questioning the cognitive enhancing potential of tyrosine in healthy aging." -
Nuts and cheese are not particularly high in tyrosine compared to many common foods most people eat nearly every day, particularly most meats and fish. I doubt that is the issue in and of itself, though nuts and cheese (particularly aged cheeses) can be a trigger for some migraine suffers for whatever reason. https://www.myfooddata.com/articles/high-tyrosine-foods.php
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By knitty kitty · Posted
@Sarah Grace, Thank you for the update! It's so good to hear from you! I'm glad Thiamine, B Complex and magnesium have helped you. Yes, it's important to take all three together. I had to quit eating cheese and nuts a long time ago because they triggered migraines in me, too. They are high in tyrosine, an amino acid, found also in fermented foods like sauerkraut and red wine. I found taking Tryptophan very helpful with migraines. Tryptophan is a precursor of serotonin and people with migraines are often low in serotonin. (Don't take tryptophan if you're taking an SSRI.) This recent study shows tryptophan really helps. The association between dietary tryptophan intake and migraine https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31254181/ For immediate respite from a migraine, try smiling REALLY BIG, mouth closed, tongue pressed against roof of mouth, and crinkle up your eyes like you just heard or saw the funniest thing... This causes an endorphin release in the brain. Usually it's the funny event, then the endorphin release and then the smile. Smiling first makes the endorphin center think it missed something and it catches up quickly by releasing endorphins after the big crinkle eyed smile. Must make crinkly eyes with smile or it won't work. If you do this too frequently within a short time frame (several hours), you can deplete your endorphins, but you'll make more in a couple of hours, so no worries. Get your thyroid checked, too. Migraines are also seen in low thyroid function (Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism). Celiac and thyroid problems go hand in hand. Vitamin D helps, too. Low Vitamin D is found in migraine. I'm so glad you're doing better. -
Its been a complete nightmare dealing with all these health issues one thing after another and being told many different things.I am looking for a new primary care physician considering when I told my past doctor of 25 years I was diagnosed before any foods eliminated from my diet and now this year at age 54 no longer able to push considering Im always exhausted, leg pain , stomach,skin and eye issues,high blood pressure to name a few all worsen because I was a school bus driver and few years until my immune system went to hell and was fired because of it.Im still struggling now, Im sibo positive and been told im not celiac and that I am.I have a hernia and dealing with menopause. Its exhausting and is causing depression because of non medical help. Today I saw another gastrointestinalist and he said everything im feeling doesn't add up to celiac disease since my ITg levels are normal so celiac disease is under control and it's something else. I for got I had Barrett's esophagus diagnosed in 2007 because recent doctors down played it just like my celiac disease. Im currently looking for a pcp in my area because it is affecting me personally and professionally. Im told since celiac looks under control it's IBS and I need to see a therapist to control it. Gastrointestinalist around here think only food consumption and if ITG looks normal its bit celiac disease it's something else. Is this right? This is what im being told. I want medical help but told its IBS.Im feel lost by " medical team "
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My migraines generally have their onset during the early morning hours as well. Presently, I am under siege with them, having headaches all but two days so far this month. I have looked at all the things reported to be common triggers (foods, sleep patterns, weather patterns, stress, etc.). Every time I think I start to see a pattern it proves not to pan out in the long run. I'm not sure it's any one thing but may, instead, be a combination of things that coalesce at certain times. It's very frustrating. The medication (sumatriptan or "Imatrix") is effective and is the only thing that will quell the pain. NSAIDs, Tylenol, even hydrocodone doesn't touch it. But they only give you 9 does of sumatriptan a month. And it doesn't help that medical science doesn't really know what causes migraines. They know some things about it but the root cause is still a mystery.
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By Scott Adams · Posted
These are labeled gluten-free: https://www.amazon.com/Corn-Husks-Tamales-Authentic-Flavorful/dp/B01MDSHUTM/ -
By Wheatwacked · Posted
Just a gluten free diet is not enough. Now you have to identify and replenish your malnutrition. Celiac disease is co-morbid with malabsorption syndrome. Low vitamin D, Low Thiamine caused Gastointeston Beriberi, low choline, low iodine are common the general population, and in newly diagnosed Celiacs in the western culture its is more likely. It takes time to heal and you need to focus on vitamins and minerals. Gluten free foods are not fortified like regular processed foods. -
By Sarah Grace · Posted
Dear Kitty Since March I have been following your recommendations regarding vitamins to assist with various issues that I have been experiencing. To recap, I am aged 68 and was late diagnosed with Celiac about 12 years ago. I had been experiencing terrible early morning headaches which I had self diagnosed as hypoglycaemia. I also mentioned that I had issues with insomnia, vertigo and brain fog. It's now one year since I started on the Benfotiamine 600 mg/day. I am still experiencing the hypoglycaemia and it's not really possible to say for sure whether the Benfotiamine is helpful. In March this year, I added B-Complex Thiamine Hydrochloride and Magnesium L-Threonate on a daily basis, and I am now confident to report that the insomnia and vertigo and brain fog have all improved!! So, very many thanks for your very helpful advice. I am now less confident that the early morning headaches are caused by hypoglycaemia, as even foods with a zero a GI rating (cheese, nuts, etc) can cause really server headaches, which sometimes require migraine medication in order to get rid off. If you are able to suggest any other treatment I would definitely give it a try, as these headaches are a terrible burden. Doctors in the UK have very limited knowledge concerning dietary issues, and I do not know how to get reliable advice from them. Best regards, -
By knitty kitty · Posted
@rei.b, I understand how frustrating starting a new way of eating can be. I tried all sorts of gluten-free processed foods and just kept feeling worse. My health didn't improve until I started the low histamine AIP diet. It makes a big difference. Gluten fits into opioid receptors in our bodies. So, removing gluten can cause withdrawal symptoms and reveals the underlying discomfort. SIBO can cause digestive symptoms. SIBO can prevent vitamins from being absorbed by the intestines. Thiamine insufficiency causes Gastrointestinal Beriberi (bloating, abdominal pain, nausea, diarrhea or constipation). Thiamine is the B vitamin that runs out first because it can only be stored for two weeks. We need more thiamine when we're sick or under emotional stress. Gastric Beriberi is under recognised by doctors. An Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test is more accurate than a blood test for thiamine deficiency, but the best way to see if you're low in thiamine is to take it and look for health improvement. Don't take Thiamine Mononitrate because the body can't utilize it well. Try Benfotiamine. Thiamine is water soluble, nontoxic and safe even at high doses. I thought it was crazy, too, but simple vitamins and minerals are important. The eight B vitamins work together, so a B Complex, Benfotiamine, magnesium and Vitamin D really helped get my body to start healing, along with the AIP diet. Once you heal, you add foods back in, so the AIP diet is worth doing for a few months. I do hope you'll consider the AIP diet and Benfotiamine. -
By captaincrab55 · Posted
Imemsm, Most of us have experienced discontinued, not currently available or products that suddenly become seasonal. My biggest fear about relocating from Maryland to Florida 5 years ago, was being able to find gluten-free foods that fit my restricted diet. I soon found out that the Win Dixie and Publix supper markets actually has 99% of their gluten-free foods tagged, next to the price. The gluten-free tags opened up a lot of foods that aren't actually marked gluten-free by the manufacture. Now I only need to check for my other dietary restrictions. Where my son lives in New Hartford, New York there's a Hannaford Supermarket that also has a gluten-free tag next to the price tag. Hopefully you can locate a Supermarket within a reasonable travel distance that you can learn what foods to check out at a Supermarket close to you. I have dermatitis herpetiformis too and I'm very sensitive to gluten and the three stores I named were very gluten-free friendly. Good Luck -
Okay well the info about TTG-A actually makes a lot of sense and I wish the PA had explained that to me. But yes, I would assume I would have intestinal damage from eating a lot of gluten for 32 years while having all these symptoms. As far as avoiding gluten foods - I was definitely not doing that. Bread, pasta, quesadillas (with flour tortillas) and crackers are my 4 favorite foods and I ate at least one of those things multiple times a day e.g. breakfast with eggs and toast, a cheese quesadilla for lunch, and pasta for dinner, and crackers and cheese as a before bed snack. I'm not even kidding. I'm not really big on sugar, so I don't really do sweets. I don't have any of those conditions. I am not sure if I have the genes or not. When the geneticist did my genetic testing for EDS this year, I didn't think to ask for him to request the celiac genes so they didn't test for them, unfortunately. I guess another expectation I had is that if gluten was the issue, the gluten-free diet would make me feel better, and I'm 3 months in and that hasn't been the case. I am being very careful and reading every label because I didn't want to screw this up and have to do gluten-free for longer than necessary if I end up not having celiac. I'm literally checking everything, even tea and anything else prepacked like caramel dip. Honestly its making me anxious 😅
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By knitty kitty · Posted
So you're saying that you think you should have severe intestinal damage since you've had the symptoms so long? DGP IgG antibodies are produced in response to a partial gluten molecule. This is different than what tissue transglutaminase antibodies are produced in response to. TTg IgA antibodies are produced in the intestines in response to gluten. The tTg IgA antibodies attack our own cells because a structural component in our cell membranes resembles a part of gluten. There's a correlation between the level of intestinal damage with the level of tTg antibodies produced. You are not producing a high number of tTg IgA antibodies, so your level of tissue damage in your intestines is not very bad. Be thankful. There may be reasons why you are not producing a high quantity of tTg IgA antibodies. Consuming ten grams or more of gluten a day for two weeks to two months before blood tests are done is required to get sufficient antibody production and damage to the intestines. Some undiagnosed people tend to subconsciously avoid lots of gluten. Cookies and cakes do not contain as much gluten as artisan breads and thick chewy pizza crust. Anemia, diabetes and thiamine deficiency can affect IgA antibody production as well. Do you carry genes for Celiac? They frequently go along with EDS. -
I was tested for celiac at the same time, so I wasn't taking naltrexone yet. I say that, because I don't. The endoscopy showed some mild inflammation but was inconclusive as to celiac disease. They took several biopsies and that's all that was shown. I was not given a Marsh score.
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By knitty kitty · Posted
Food and environmental allergies involve IgE antibodies. IgE antibodies provoke histamine release from mast cells. Celiac disease is not always visible to the naked eye during endoscopy. Much of the damage is microscopic and patchy or out of reach of the scope. Did they take any biopsies of your small intestine for a pathologist to examine? Were you given a Marsh score? Why do you say you "don't have intestinal damage to correlate with lifelong undiagnosed celiac disease"? Just curious. -
I was tested for food allergies and environmental allergies about 7 months before I started taking Naltrexone, so I don't think that is the cause for me, but that's interesting! The main thing with the celiac thing that is throwing me off is these symptoms are lifelong, but I don't have intestinal damage to correlate with lifelong undiagnosed celiac disease.
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Welcome to the forum, @Kara S! Warrior bread is a grain free bread product. Google it. There are commercial mixes available, I believe, Youtube videos and many recipes.
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By knitty kitty · Posted
@Colleen H, I have had similar reactions and symptoms like yours. I started following the low histamine Autoimmune Protocol diet developed by a doctor with Celiac Disease herself, Dr. Sarah Ballantyne. Her book, The Paleo Approach, is very helpful in understanding what's going on in the body. Not only do you have antibodies attacking the body, there are mast cells spreading histamine which causes inflammation. Foods also contain histamine or act as histamine releasers. Our bodies have difficulty clearing histamine if there's too much. Following the low histamine AIP diet allows your body time to clear the excess histamine we're making as part of the autoimmune response, without adding in extra histamine from foods. High histamine foods include eggs, processed foods and some citrus fruits. The AIP diet allows meat and vegetables. No processed meats like sausage, luncheon meats, ham, chicken nuggets, etc. No night shades (potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, eggplant). No dairy. No grains. No rice. No eggs. No gluten-free processed foods like gluten free breads and cookies. No nuts. No expensive processed gluten-free foods. Meat and vegetables. Some fruit. Some fruit, like applesauce, contains high levels of fructose which can cause digestive upsets. Fructose gets fermented by yeasts in the gastrointestinal tract. This fermentation can cause gas, bloating and abdominal pain. The AIP diet changes your microbiome. Change what you eat and that changes which bacteria live in your gut. By cutting out carbohydrates from grains and starchy veggies like potatoes, SIBO bacteria get starved out. Fermenting yeasts get starved out, too. Healthy bacteria repopulate the gut. Thiamine Vitamin B 1 helps regulate gut bacteria. Low thiamine can lead to SIBO and yeast infestation. Mast cells release histamine more easily when they are low in Thiamine. Anxiety, depression, and irritability are early symptoms of thiamine insufficiency. A form of thiamine called Benfotiamine has been shown to promote intestinal healing. Thiamine works with the seven other B vitamins. They all need each other to function properly. Other vitamins and minerals are needed, too. Vitamin D helps calm and regulate the immune system. Thiamine is needed to turn Vitamin D into an active form. Thiamine needs magnesium to make life sustaining enzymes. Taking a B Complex and additional Benfotiamine is beneficial. The B vitamins are water soluble, easily lost if we're not absorbing nutrients properly as with Celiac Disease. Since blood tests for B vitamins are notoriously inaccurate, taking a B Complex, Benfotiamine, and magnesium Threonate, and looking for health improvements is a better way to see if you're insufficient. I do hope you will give the low histamine AIP diet a try. It really works. -
Hello, my family is very new to Celiac Disease so forgive me for asking what Warrior Bread is and is there a recipe for it online?
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By jessicafreya · Posted
I'd like to make tamales and wonder if anyone has recs for corn husks free of cross contact for a sensitive celiac little boy. Thks! -
By knitty kitty · Posted
Just wanted to add that checking B12 and Vitamin D only is not going to give an accurate picture of vitamin deficiencies. B12 Cobalamine needs the seven other B vitamins to work properly. You can have vitamin deficiency symptoms before the B12 blood level changes to show deficiency. You can have "normal" B12, but have deficiencies in other B vitamins like Thiamine and Niacin, for which there are no accurate tests. Take a B Complex supplement with all the B vitamins. Take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which has been shown to promote intestinal healing. Thiamine Mononitrate found in most vitamin supplements is not easy for the body to utilize. What makes thiamine mononitrate not break down on the shelf also makes it hard for the body to absorb and utilize. Thiamine and Niacin B 3 deficiency symptoms include anxiety, depression and irritability. The brain uses more Thiamine than other organs. Take the B Complex and Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine or TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) and look for health improvements in the following weeks. -
By knitty kitty · Posted
Hello, @rei.b, Ehlers Danlos syndrome and Celiac Disease can occur together in genetically predisposed individuals. Losing ones gallbladder is common with celiac disease. I'm glad Naltrexone is helping with your pain. Naltrexone is known to suppress tTg IgA and tTg IgG production, so it's not surprising that only your DGP IgG and DGP IgA are high. Have you tried the Autoimmune Protocol diet designed by Dr. Sarah Ballantyne, a Celiac herself? The AIP diet helps lower inflammation and promotes intestinal healing. The AIP diet is a Paleo diet that eliminates foods that can cause intestinal inflammation until you heal on the inside, then more foods can be added back in. The low histamine AIP diet will help reduce inflammation further. Histamine is released as part of the immune response in celiac disease. Foods also contain various amounts of histamine or provoke histamine release. Lowering the amount of histamine from foods helps. The body, with help from B vitamins, can clear histamine, but if more histamine is consumed than can be cleared, you can stay in an inflammatory state for a long time. Cutting out high histamine foods is beneficial. Omit night shades which contain alkaloids that add to leaky gut syndrome found with celiac disease. Night shades include tomatoes, peppers including bell peppers, potatoes and eggplants. Processed foods like sausages and gluten-free processed products are high in histamines. All Grains are removed from the diet because they are inflammatory and provoke histamine release. Blood tests for deficiencies in B vitamins are notoriously inaccurate. You can have vitamin deficiency symptoms before blood levels show a deficiency. Blood levels do not accurately measure the quantity of B vitamins stored inside the cells where they are utilized. The brain will order stored vitamins to be released from organs into the blood stream to keep the brain and heart supplied while deficiency occurs inside organs, like the gallbladder. Gall bladder dysfunction is caused by a deficiency in Thiamine Vitamin B 1 and other B vitamins. The eight essential B vitamins are water soluble and easily lost with diarrhea and constipation, and the malabsorption and inflammation that occurs with celiac disease. Because they are water soluble, the body can easily excrete any excess B vitamins in urine. The best way to see if you are deficient is to take a B Complex and Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and look for health improvements in the following weeks. Most B Complex supplements contain Thiamine Mononitrate which is not bioavailable. The body has a difficult time utilizing thiamine mononitrate because it doesn't break down easily. Benfotiamine has been shown to promote intestinal healing. Remember your intestines are in a damaged, permeable state. Treat them tenderly, like you would a baby until they heal. You wouldn't feed a baby spicy bell peppers and hard to digest corn and nuts. Change your diet so your intestines can heal. I use a combination of B12 Cobalamine, B 6 Pyridoxine, and B1 Benfotiamine for pain. These three B vitamins have analgesic properties. They relieve pain better than other otc pain relievers. -
Hi again JMartes, Would you mind telling us some of your symptoms or why you need for your Dr to do more for you. What is your main concern about your health right now? We can give you some advice based on our own problems with Celiac Disease. It may be that the anger and frustration you are experiencing is doing more damage to your body than your Celiac Disease. And there is the political situation in California and the rest of the country that is stressful and that adds to worries about our health. Take care.
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Sorry, I think I got you mixed up with another poster.
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I hadn't been eating gluten free before having the antibody test done. I started eating gluten free after having the test done because the gastro PA told me to eat gluten-free for 6 months. I'm now 3 months in.
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I tend to agree with RMJ. Your doc took the reasonable and practical approach to diagnosis. All things considered, it was the right way to go. However, if you have first degree relatives that show signs of possible celiac disease, urge them to get formally tested before they start the gluten free diet.
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It sounds like you have a very reasonable GI doctor, who diagnosed you based on family history and symptoms after eating gluten. I would consider you lucky! The other option would be to make yourself very sick by doing weeks of a gluten challenge prior to an endoscopy.
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By captaincrab55 · Posted
Hi Colleen H, I suffered with the pins and needles/burning feeling in my legs and feet for at least 6 years until my Nephrologist figured out that I had to go on a low salt diet. He said my kidneys weren't strong enough to remove the salt. The simple fix was a diuretic, but that med leaves the uric acid behind, so that wasn't an option. On the bright side the low salt diet lowered my BP over 20 points and and the pins and needles/burning feeling went away. Good Luck and hope this helps. -
Yes this is very frustrating for me ... not sure what to think. Feels like I'm having reactions to a lot of things Now applesauce?? I don't understand 😞
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I did ... But aren't we going to be vitamin deficienct if we are not eating due to being sick ?? If the food we eat is gluten free and we have other sensitivities , how do we get out of the cycle?? Thank you
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Anyone else get pins and needles. ??? Burning feeling ? Heat makes it so much worse 😔 Winter is here. I had to lower my thermostat because I couldn't take that hot air feeling 😔 Hopefully it goes away soon
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I assume that you already know that genetic testing for celiac disease cannot be used to confirm a celiac diagnosis. About 40% of the general population has the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% actually develop celiac disease. It can be used to rule out celiac disease with a high degree of confidence, however, in the case where the genetic testing is negative for the genes. Until and unless you are actually diagnosed with celiac disease I would not raise this as an issue with family. However, if you are diagnosed with celiac disease through blood antibody testing and/or endoscopy with positive biopsy I would suggest you encourage first degree relatives to also purse testing because there is a significant chance (somewhere betwee 10% and almost 50%, depending on which studies you reference) that they will also have or will develop active celiac disease. Often, there are symptoms are absent or very minor until damage to the small bowel lining or other body systems becomes significant so be prepared that they may blow you off. We call this "silent celiac disease".
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If you were off gluten for two months that would have been long enough to invalidate the celiac blood antibody testing. Many people make the same mistake. They experiment with the gluten free diet before seeking formal testing. Once you remove gluten from the diet the antibodies stop being produced and those that are already in circulation begin to be removed and often drop below detectable levels. To pursue valid testing for celiac disease you would need to resume gluten consumption equivalent to the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat bread daily for at least two weeks, preferably longer. These are the most recent guidelines for the "gluten challenge". Without formal testing there is no way to distinguish between celiac disease and gluten sensitivity since their symptoms overlap. However, celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that damages the small bowel lining, not true of gluten sensitivity. There is no test available for gluten sensitivity so celiac disease must first be ruled out. By the way, elevated liver enzymes was what led to my celiac diagnosis almost 25 years ago.
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Then it does not seem to me that a gluten-related disorder is at the heart of your problems, unless that is, you have refractory celiac disease. But you did not answer my question about how long you had been eating gluten free before you had the blood antibody test for celiac disease done.
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My genetic test results have arrived - I’m homozygous for DQB1*02, meaning I have HLA-DQ2. I’ve read that this is one of the genes most strongly associated with celiac disease, and my symptoms are very clear. I’m relieved that the results finally arrived, as I was getting quite worried since my symptoms have been getting worse. Next step, blood test. What do these results imply? What should I tell my family? I’m concerned that this genetic predisposition might also affect other family members.
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Two months. In extreme situations like this where it’s clearly a smoking gun? I’m in LA so went to a very big hospital for pcp and gi and nutritionist
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So far 3 months in - worsening symptoms. I have had the worst constipation in my life and I am primarily eating naturally gluten-free foods like potatoes, eggs, salad with homemade dressing, corn tortillas, etc. I hate gluten-free bread and pasta so I don't eat it. Occasionally I eat gluten-free almond flour crackers. As stated in the post, I don't have any vitamin deficiency. I was already tested.
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As I said, I do not have any vitamin deficiency. I was already tested.
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By Wheatwacked · Posted
Talk to your Talk to your provider about testing for vitamin and mineral deficiency. celiac disease causes malabsorption and eventually malnutrition. Especially vitamin D. Having the gallbladder removed seems to be a common step on the way to a Celiac Disease Diagnosis, Gallbladder is a sympton of deficient Choline. Eggs and red meat are the primary source..Choline makes up a majority of the bile salts. The bile gets thick, doesn't get enough into intestine to digest fats well. Can eventually back up into gallbladder, cause gallstones. Without bile, bowel movements can become hard. Try to avoid all processed foods while you are healing, The gluten-free foods are not fortified with vitamins and use various ingredients to mimic fat that bothers many Celiacs. Choose vegatables with low omega 6. Optimum omega 6 to omega 3 ratio is less than 3:1. Wheat flour is 22:1. Grass fed milk is 1:1. Commercial Dairies milk is 5:1. They feed wheat, rye and barley Gluten as part of the food mix. -
Your DGP-G is also high. The thing to do now would be to trial the gluten-free diet for a few months to see if there is improvement in symptoms.
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Welcome to the forum, @Roses8721! How long were you off gluten before getting the celiac blood testing done? The testing is not valid after having been gluten free for a significant period of time. Many of your symptoms align with celiac disease.
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Hello, I am feeling frustrated. I have hEDS and lifelong digestive issues but my GI PA is very focused on my celiac panel and I just want to make sure that she should be focused on that because completely changing my diet seems to have worsened my symptoms. Symptoms are constipation, diarrhea, and acid reflux with spicy foods and certain foods like tomatoes, bell peppers, and onions. I also don't have a gallbaldder as it was removed almost a year ago. This also exacerbated my symptoms. I did have joint pain from hEDS but that was already treated with low dose naltrexone about 4 months prior to going completely gluten free. Endoscopy was abnormal but inconclusive; basically showed some inflammation - which common with hEDS. I don't have any vitamin deficiency. Celiac Panel Results: TTG-A <0.5 U/ML Reference Range: 0.5-14.9 U/ML NEGATIVE: <15 POSITIVE: =>15 DGP-A 72.0 U/ML Reference Range: 0.2-14.9 U/ML NEGATIVE: <15 POSITIVE: =>15 TTG-G <0.8 U/ML Reference Range: 0.8-14.9 U/ML NEGATIVE: <15 POSITIVE: =>15 DGP-G 24.0 U/ML Reference Range: 0.4-14.9 U/ML NEGATIVE: <15 POSITIVE: =>15 IgG-A-M Results: IMMUNOGLOBULIN A, QN, SERUM 165 MG/DL Reference Range: 87-352 MG/DL IMMUNOGLOBULIN M, QN, SERUM 164 MG/DL Reference Range: 26-217 MG/DL What are your thoughts, internet? Are there any questions I should be asking the PA? Thanks!
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Help. I’m spiraling. Years of extensive symptoms: What could this be? Years of: Mildly elevated alk and alt Fatty liver Random days of feeling like I’m coming down w flu but no fever and nobody else in house sick Intermittent diarrhea Severe abdominal distension Long history of cavities and enamel deficiency Sound sensitivity Anxiety and depression Low libido Sun skin allergy Frequent fatigue ended up seeing PCP because I looked 8 mo preg. Started gluten-free diet then celiac serology negative. SW GI Dr dx me w celiac as I had been in bed for 3 days after eating gluten after cutting. GI said not to do biopsy because it was clear what was going on and added to chart. My spiral is not seeing anywhere this is done and want to see if anyone else has dealt w this. If not celiac idk what else I will do. Family history or celiac as well as a death related to this.
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I get canker sores one hour after eating Oats, and pimples in my butt.
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Body dysmorphia experience. When I was at the worst of my gluten problem I use to get chronic constipation; I would spend long time sitting on the toilet. One day as I was tired of sitting, I rested my head on my hands and my elbows on my knees, as soon as I felt the pressure of my elbows on my knees the perception of my body changed to that of a tarantula; I visualized and it felt real. The perception went away as soon as I removed the pressure on my knees, I deducted that the pressure of my elbows on the knees caused the sensation, so I repeated the position and the sensation of having the body of a tarantula happened each time. I have not had that experience since then because I started a gluten-free diet short after. I wonder if those people that look distorted to themselves in the mirror could have something similar but with the responsible sensory contacts located on their feet. I want to document this experience because it might help some research or others, it sounds crazy but I feel the right thing to do is to share it.
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By AlwaysLearning · Posted
Get tested for vitamin deficiencies. Though neuropathy can be a symptom of celiac, it can also be caused by deficiencies due to poor digestion caused by celiac and could be easier to treat. -
Thank you so much for your response Yes it seems as though things get very painful as time goes on. I'm not eating gluten as far as I know. However, I'm not sure of cross contamination. My system seems to weaken to hidden spices and other possibilities. ??? if cross contamination is possible...I am in a super sensitive mode of celiac disease.. Neuropathy from head to toes
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EXACTLY! I was asked yesterday on my LAST video call with Standford and I stated exactly yes absolutely this is why I need the name! One, get proper care, two, not get worse.Im falling apart, stressed out, in pain and just opened email from Stanford stating I was rude ect.I want that video reviewed by higher ups and see if that women still has a job or not.Im saying this because I've been medically screwed and asking for help because bills don't pay itself. This could be malpratice siit but im not good at finding lawyers
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By AlwaysLearning · Posted
We feel your pain. It took me 20+ years of regularly going to doctors desperate for answers only to be told there was nothing wrong with me … when I was 20 pounds underweight, suffering from severe nutritional deficiencies, and in a great deal of pain. I had to figure it out for myself. If you're in the U.S., not having an official diagnosis does mean you can't claim a tax deduction for the extra expense of gluten-free foods. But it can also be a good thing. Pre-existing conditions might be a reason why a health insurance company might reject your application or charge you more money. No official diagnosis means you don't have a pre-existing condition. I really hope you don't live in the U.S. and don't have these challenges. Do you need an official diagnosis for a specific reason? Else, I wouldn't worry about it. As long as you're diligent in remaining gluten free, your body should be healing as much as possible so there isn't much else you could do anyway. And there are plenty of us out here who never got that official diagnosis because we couldn't eat enough gluten to get tested. Now that the IL-2 test is available, I suppose I could take it, but I don't feel the need. Someone else not believing me really isn't my problem as long as I can stay in control of my own food. -
By AlwaysLearning · Posted
If you're just starting out in being gluten free, I would expect it to take months before you learned enough about hidden sources of gluten before you stopped making major mistakes. Ice cream? Not safe unless they say it is gluten free. Spaghetti sauce? Not safe unless is says gluten-free. Natural ingredients? Who knows what's in there. You pretty much need to cook with whole ingredients yourself to avoid it completely. Most gluten-free products should be safe, but while you're in the hypersensitive phase right after going gluten free, you may notice that when something like a microwave meal seems to not be gluten-free … then you find out that it is produced in a shared facility where it can become contaminated. My reactions were much-more severe after going gluten free. The analogy that I use is that you had a whole army of soldiers waiting for some gluten to attack, and now that you took away their target, when the stragglers from the gluten army accidentally wander onto the battlefield, you still have your entire army going out and attacking them. Expect it to take two years before all of the training facilities that were producing your soldiers have fallen into disrepair and are no longer producing soldiers. But that is two years after you stop accidentally glutening yourself. Every time you do eat gluten, another training facility can be built and more soldiers will be waiting to attack. Good luck figuring things out.
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