Cealic and dissociation?

[CholoeS]

I’ve had dissociation issues since I was little, it can’t be trauma related nor drug related since I had a great childhood and never done drugs nor drunk alcohol in my life. I remember someone said that dissociation could have something to do with the stomach. I have something called derelization and depersonalization. Which makes you feel detached from everything around you, like you’re in a dream. I can look at myself in the mirror and think it’s a stranger, my hands and arms feel foreign. And it’s difficult to concentrate. I’m wondering with cealic has something to do with this mysterious dissociation 

[Ennis-TX]

  On 5/3/2018 at 7:31 PM, CholoeS said:

I’ve had dissociation issues since I was little, it can’t be trauma related nor drug related since I had a great childhood and never done drugs nor drunk alcohol in my life. I remember someone said that dissociation could have something to do with the stomach. I have something called derelization and depersonalization. Which makes you feel detached from everything around you, like you’re in a dream. I can look at myself in the mirror and think it’s a stranger, my hands and arms feel foreign. And it’s difficult to concentrate. I’m wondering with cealic has something to do with this mysterious dissociation 

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Unsure it does have issues with the brain via ataxia in some, can cause imbalances due to b-vitamin and magnesium deficiency. So Spectrum B-vitamin supplementation.

Dissociation....so many different perspectives with this, I for one am a bit of a introvert, and find true happiness in imagined senerios in my head when alone....or used to, imagination been stalled since 6 years ago, but I still try to work them out like I used to. I still do have to be alone to myself for a good amount of time after being out dealing with humans.I also find myself disconnected from "normal gluten eaters" I mean...they eat something that can have such horrendous effect on me....I see them eating it and I no longer can look at them like a human being and have to leave and not talk to them or distract myself.

From the dream like perspective....I have only had that kind of experience on a few occasions, ...a bad night of drinking...lost count at 26 shots? I was literally looking over my own shoulder from above my head perspective wise and felt like I was controlling myself with strings.....This was over 7 years ago? 3 Years ago, I cut the inside of my throat on a pumpkin seed really bad when a sliver slit my esphougus, I was coughing up tons of blood into a bucket and going light headed and that whole out of body experience, ER gave me some stuff to coat and stop the bleeding and I was again back in my body without the fly by wire feeling a few hours later. Again when I was running a 103-104 fever last fall from the flu and had to go lay in a cold shower to get my temp down and felt like I was shifting back into my body from outside. And a few months ago when I had really bad Diarrhea going on all day, and vomiting from a gluten exposure, I assume this was dehydration and a electrolyte imbalance but I got that whole fly by wire feeling sort of zoning out over my own shoulder. Generally something is pretty out of wack when I had these experiences...so I would not take them lightly if they just come up.

On a disconnected level...I do not feel much for anyone or anything I can not relate to...I mean my health is so FUBAR at times and my life so messed up...I really do not have time to worry about those who I can not relate to with either common health issues, family, or someone who can influence my day to day life. But I figure this whole indifference to life and focus on your own is more a logical/biological imperative to keep you focused on prioritizing your own health...or that cold hard reality that real life issues drill into older traumatized people.

[knitty kitty]

  On 5/3/2018 at 7:31 PM, CholoeS said:

I’ve had dissociation issues since I was little, it can’t be trauma related nor drug related since I had a great childhood and never done drugs nor drunk alcohol in my life. I remember someone said that dissociation could have something to do with the stomach. I have something called derelization and depersonalization. Which makes you feel detached from everything around you, like you’re in a dream. I can look at myself in the mirror and think it’s a stranger, my hands and arms feel foreign. And it’s difficult to concentrate. I’m wondering with cealic has something to do with this mysterious dissociation 

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Get your vitamin B12 checked asap! 

Vitamin B12 (cobalamine) deficiency can cause mental symptoms exactly like you're describing.  I've been deficient in B12 and have experienced and  understand dissociation.  Some people can be deficient in B12 and not have any mental or emotional problems.  A lucky few have the mental changes long before anemia shows up.  B12 deficiency that presents at first as mood alterations can be easily overlooked by doctors.  

Celiac Disease causes malabsorption which results in malnutrition and vitamin and mineral deficiencies.  Cobalamin (B12) deficiency is one of the most common deficiencies in Celiacs.  

Here's an article about mental changes in a young man with B12 deficiency.

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Hope this helps.

[ch88]

I have heard some people can get disassociation after traumatic life experiences. Other people say that there disassociation was not caused by any event. There is a strong genetic component to mental illness, in some cases at least.

Probably everyone with a mental disorder should be screened for celiac disease.

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[cristiana]

Echoing knitty kitty above - check B12, and also ferritin.  I suffered something similar when my levels were low,  which brought on severe anxiety.

I found reading At Last a Life and the Anxiety No More website helped too and equipped me to deal with depersonalisation, and the anxiety that was causing it.

[Posterboy]

CholoeS,

  On 5/3/2018 at 11:23 PM, Ennis_TX said:

So Spectrum B-vitamin supplementation.

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  On 5/3/2018 at 11:23 PM, Ennis_TX said:

Unsure it does have issues with the brain via ataxia in some, can cause imbalances due to b-vitamin and magnesium deficiency

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Echoing what Ennis_Tx said find a good B-Complex and Magnesium.

Here is a good overview of how B-Vitamins can help our mental health.

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I also recommend a good Magnesium form like Citrate or Glycinate.

Here is a research article on how Magnesium Glycinate can help depression.

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Taking Niacinamide and Magnesium first as Magnesium Citrate and now Magnesium Glycinate really helped my depression.

I also had the B-12 deficiency that Knitty Kitty mentioned before taking a FABB tablet under doctor's supervision to treat my homocysteine levels.

I no longer take a B-complex but found I needed to take them at least 6 months to get the desired result of improved mood(s).

But Magnesium Citrate worked much quicker in only 6 weeks or so I felt much better and my fatigue greatly improved. A sign the Magnesium is working is restful sleep marked by dreams.

This  health line link explains how a Niacin deficiency can effect your serotonin levels and thus your moods.

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"Serotonin deficiency can lead to depression. This is why antidepressants known as SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) are so effective at treating depression.

Serotonin is created by an amino acid called tryptophan. Niacin is Open Original Shared Link the metabolizing process of forming serotonin from tryptophan. Therefore, niacin deficiency can directly impact mood by affecting your production of serotonin."

I know taking Niacinamide and Magnesium Citrate helped my moods.

Good luck  on your continued journey.

**** this is not medical advice but I hope it is is helpful.

2 Timothy 2: 7 “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things”

Posterboy by the grace of God,

 

[CholoeS]

Thanks to everyone who replied