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Nic Collaborator

Hi, before my son was diagnosed with Celiac he loved Honey Nut Chex. The only offensive ingredient is Barley Malt Extract. Now I know Barley is a no-no. But I was hoping that since it is an extract it may be ok. I doubt it, but just wishful thinking. Does anyone know?

Nicole


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jerseyangel Proficient

Hi Nicole,

Sorry, but barley malt extract = gluten :(

I'm not a cereal eater, but maybe someone else knows of a gluten-free one that would be similar to the Chex?

Guest alex j

You could try Health Valley Corn Crunch Ems or Rice Crumch Ems.

Carriefaith Enthusiast

Barely Malt extract is not gluten free :(

eKatherine Apprentice

Here's why they call it an "extract":

To make malted barley, they soak the grain and sprout it, just enough to turn some of the starch into sugar. Then they stop the growth of the barley sprouts by roasting them at a low temperature. At this point the barley has been 'malted'. You can buy malted barley at any beermaking supply store. They then crush the malted barley by grinding it coarsely. The soluble (fermentable) sugars are extracted from the grain, along with some other soluble carbohydrates (which give beer body), and some gluten. They steeping at a temperature of 140° F for a while, in order not to cook the grain. They then gradually raise the temperature. The resulting brown liquid is filtered to remove particles and boiled down to concentrate it into a syrup, which is called "barley malt" or "barley malt extract", because it is extracted from malted barley.

taz sharratt Enthusiast
Barely Malt extract is not gluten free :(

just had my dietician app and told her i miss my cereal she said i could have kellogs rice krispies :blink: i knew somethiong was a miss there and went home looked it up in my bible ( uk directory) and sure enough it contains barley, well i was shocked that she gave me that advice :angry: she should have known better :blink:

happygirl Collaborator

taz--that was one of my saddest things to give up---and seemingly so unnecessarily. they do make gluten-free "rice krispies"---usually sell them at health food stores.


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ravenwoodglass Mentor
You could try Health Valley Corn Crunch Ems or Rice Crumch Ems.

Just as a side note if you are supersensitive or newly gluten free, my DS and I have both gotten sick from CC from this brand of cereal. When I called they did state that there could be a CC issue even though that is not noted on the box. They sent us coupons for 4 free boxes as an apology for making us sick, like I'll use them. I put them on the shelf in the store for others to use if they wanted.

Nic Collaborator
just had my dietician app and told her i miss my cereal she said i could have kellogs rice krispies :blink: i knew somethiong was a miss there and went home looked it up in my bible ( uk directory) and sure enough it contains barley, well i was shocked that she gave me that advice :angry: she should have known better :blink:

It's funny because if you go on Kellogg's website and click the "what is gluten free" link they state that unfortunately none of their cereal are gluten free but that some gluten intolerant people may be able to eat Rice Crispies as there is only a very small amount of malt in them. The suggest we speak to our doctors about it.

Nicole

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caligirl94 Newbie
taz--that was one of my saddest things to give up---and seemingly so unnecessarily. they do make gluten-free "rice krispies"---usually sell them at health food stores.

my problem with rice or corn based cereals is they tend to be very low in fiber and high glycemic, thus leaving my famished within an hour. anyone have suggestions on breakfasts that are slow digesting other than eggs. i, unfortunately, do not have time to make eggs in the morning.

i really miss my high fiber cereal - but of course, made with wheat.

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular
my problem with rice or corn based cereals is they tend to be very low in fiber and high glycemic, thus leaving my famished within an hour. anyone have suggestions on breakfasts that are slow digesting other than eggs. i, unfortunately, do not have time to make eggs in the morning.

i really miss my high fiber cereal - but of course, made with wheat.

If you don't have time to make eggs in the morning, make them the night before!

Seriously, you can boil a whole bunch of eggs, peel them, wrap them in plastic, and put them in the fridge. Rachael Ray has a great idiot-proof method for boiling eggs: put in pot, cover with cold water, bring to a boil--and then turn OFF the heat, and cover tightly for 10 (or more) minutes. Result--perfect eggs!

You can also make scrambled eggs or omelettes the night before, wrap them tightly, fridge them, and then nuke them in the morning.

But it really doesn't take more than 3 minutes to fry an egg on both sides, using high heat.

I turn the flame on high under the pan, put a pat of butter in, as soon as it melts and bubbles (30 seconds?), I crack a couple of eggs right into the pan, let them cook for a minute or two (flame still on high), flip them, add a few bacon bits (I buy big bags of pre-cooked real bacon bits and keep them in the freezer, pulling out a handful whenever) and some shredded cheese, cover for 30 seconds, and breakfast is ready!

If I'm in a real hurry, I fold the egg over around the cheese, plop it into a ziploc bag, and eat it in the car (remember to take a napkin!).

lizard00 Enthusiast
my problem with rice or corn based cereals is they tend to be very low in fiber and high glycemic, thus leaving my famished within an hour. anyone have suggestions on breakfasts that are slow digesting other than eggs. i, unfortunately, do not have time to make eggs in the morning.

i really miss my high fiber cereal - but of course, made with wheat.

There are some breakfast cereals that are high in fiber, but you have to read every label. I have found one made of flax that's pretty high in fiber. I've also had some made of amaranth, buckwheat and/or quinoa. I find the rice cereals do the same thing with me. The flax cereal I eat is Perky's Nutty Flax, it's kind of like a smaller version of grape nuts. (that's the closest thing I can compare it to) It's much better if you add some fruit to it, although I eat it by itself a lot. It's pretty high in both protein and fiber. Hope that helps!

  • 4 weeks later...
Babs83 Rookie

Rice Chex are now gluten free. They use molasses instead of barley malt extract.

  • 1 year later...
HyperGirl Newbie

I was wondering about this, because it's in the cereal I eat but the allergy advice doesn't mention it containing gluten!

I feel sick and awful and my tummy is making a lot of noise!

I've not actually been diagnosed celiac yet but I went to my doctor on Friday and have blood tests on Wednesday.

I'm glad I found this thread (well I searched it on Google and it was the first page!), because it's been bugging me for a while and I've often wondered why I feel sick and empty after the cereal.

Oh well, the more gluten the better I guess, seeing as I'm being tested in 2 days' time :P

lovegrov Collaborator

The allergy advice doesn't have to mention "gluten" specifically. It only has to mention the top 8 allergens, one of which is wheat. "Gluten" is not among the top 8 allergens.

richard

larry mac Enthusiast

Hi, before my son was diagnosed with Celiac he loved Honey Nut Chex. The only offensive ingredient is Barley Malt Extract. Now I know Barley is a no-no. But I was hoping that since it is an extract it may be ok. I doubt it, but just wishful thinking. Does anyone know?

Nicole

I would suggest Corn Chex with a little agave nectar on it. It's very crunchy, a good crunch too. I eat it every morning. Sometimes with blueberries instead of agave nectar.

best regards, lm

  • 2 weeks later...
buffettbride Enthusiast

Honey Nut Chex is now gluten free. There may be some old product in stock somewhere, but every box we've purchased in the last 6 months has clearly said "gluten free" on the front.

Everything by Chex, except the Wheat Chex, of course, are moving gluten free as far as I know.

In any case, barley malt extract is not safe.

  • 2 weeks later...
jarsmith Newbie

Rice Chex, Corn Chex, and the cinnamon chex are all gluten free now (but not generic brands - they all have malt extract or syrup). For a slightly higher fiber cereal, Quaker's crunchy corn bran squares work. The variety gets a little limited at times. I get frustrated at all the products that contain malt syrup and malt extract!

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