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Darn210 Enthusiast
I clicked on your link at work and was NOT amused!

HOLY CRA@P!!!! I'm sure that's not what it used to be.

Good heavens--I don't blame you. This post is from 2006, and I can assure you that when he posted, it was a hairstyle gallery.

I apologize for whatever happened here, and will remove the post right now. Since you quoted it, would you please go back and erase the link in your post? Thank you :)

You might need to PM her Patti . . . she might not come back after that.

Good news about your dad, Em.

Glad to hear you're feeling better, Tom. I meant to mention that I liked your new av, too. Are you still on the BugBeGone Humaworm? Or did it just stop making you feel so bad? Or (without quoting) did you want to make a confession about the "cheating" that you alluded to a couple of pages back????? Hmmmmmmm????

Let the buggers (I'm talkin' hair now, people, not Ptaum's pets) turn grEy!!!! I can't be bothered!! Did I tell you guys I only wear mascara and chapstick?


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jerseyangel Proficient
You might need to PM her Patti . . . she might not come back after that.

Done :)

DingoGirl Enthusiast
Can you not see him while he's got Li'l Kissey with him, Susie? I'm assuming that you haven't met him yet....will this happen soon? You must be so curious to get to know your love's son--how exciting! Maybe a bit scarey, too?

:unsure: Yes, I am a bit askeert. David has brought up the subject of me, and my pictures are on teh fridge for - well, nearly the whole time we've dated - adn Erik's seen them, but said nothing. Finally, yours truly was brought up (phrasal verb?) and.....Erik wasn't too interested in talking about it, so that was that. Must be handled delicately.....and crap, I"m used to GIRLS, not boys..... :huh:

EMILY! great news about your dad! a whole MONTH in the hospital? holy cow....

TOM - LURVE yer parade!!!!!! :lol:

Let the buggers (I'm talkin' hair now, people, not Ptaum's pets) turn grEy!!!! I can't be bothered!! Did I tell you guys I only wear mascara and chapstick?

:angry:<_< well now THAT just makes me want to HURT you

:lol:

Ridgewalker Contributor
Sarah...if you're going for the patches (re smoking) careful of the 24 hr ones.........they seriously mess up your sleep <_< ...and give you crazy dreams.

I used to take mine off at night (after about 3 days of disturbed sleep :rolleyes: )

NOW ya tell me!!! :lol: I put the first patch on last night, and Ho-lee crap, did I have some crazy dreams last night, one of them involving Patti, Emily, and myself getting a loft apartment together a la Friends. :blink: I'm not kidding, you guys are even in my dreams. :lol: Actually, the dreams didn't bother me, so much as the twitchy-ness. Restless legs, and whole-body twitches too.

I'll try one more night, because I really don't want to wake up wanting a cigarette. <_< But if the twitches continue, I'll have to take it off at night.

But overall it's working GREAT. Haven't had a single cigarette all day, and it's not complete torture. (Just mild torture :P )

PS-- The loft in the dream was sooo awesome, much cooler and more vintagey than the Friends loft.

tom Contributor
Are you still on the BugBeGone Humaworm? Or did it just stop making you feel so bad? Or (without quoting) did you want to make a confession about the "cheating" that you alluded to a couple of pages back????? Hmmmmmmm????

Oh I AM still playin' passtheparasite :o

Confession? :huh: I thought I'd confessed in mentioning it.

Details I can do! I knew that local WhF had these but never went to the area where they are. Deeeeeeeeee-LISHus brownies from a San Francisco Gluten-free Casein-free <yeti/yeast-free too!> bakery named CRAVE.

<drool> ohhhhhhh so good :):D

1st brownie or cake-type thing I've had in . .. . .wow . .. .this is a toughie . ...maybe 8 yrs? Maybe 10. I really don't remember. Before going everything-free in '05 I was buying gluten-free cookies mostly.

Darn210 Enthusiast
Good heavens--I don't blame you. This post is from 2006, and I can assure you that when he posted, it was a hairstyle gallery.

So . . . I had to go back . . . 'tis in my nature . . . apparently, that link was from page TWO!!!!! Now that might be a little hint why no one wants to join us. They start reading at the beginning, get to page two, become offended and off they go . . . :ph34r: Oh, and then there's Emily for the ones that start at this end. :ph34r::lol::lol:

DingoGirl Enthusiast
So . . . I had to go back . . . 'tis in my nature . . . apparently, that link was from page TWO!!!!! Now that might be a little hint why no one wants to join us. They start reading at the beginning, get to page two, become offended and off they go . . . :ph34r: Oh, and then there's Emily for the ones that start at this end. :ph34r::lol::lol:

:lol: :lol:

I think she's nailed it


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Darn210 Enthusiast
Details I can do! I knew that local WhF had these but never went to the area where they are. Deeeeeeeeee-LISHus brownies from a San Francisco Gluten-free Casein-free <yeti/yeast-free too!> bakery named CRAVE.

<drool> ohhhhhhh so good :):D

gfcfyf . . . so what was the problem? . . . or did it have . . . *gasp* . . . soy?

tom Contributor
NOW ya tell me!!! :lol: I put the first patch on last night, and Ho-lee crap, did I have some crazy dreams last night, one of them involving Patti, Emily, and myself getting a loft apartment together a la Friends.

Heeee-LARRY-us!!!!!

Next time can I & Peter and/or Richard live across the hall????????? :huh::lol:

Was I the only one who saw King Richard IN-THREAD less than an hour ago?

tom Contributor
gfcfyf . . . so what was the problem? . . . or did it have . . . *gasp* . . . soy?

:lol:S U G A R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was 100% off sugar & all sweeteners & fruit & even vegetables having a remote touch of sweetness to them, like carrots & red bell peppers.

I still see it as cheating to have anything w/ any sort of sugar or sweetener. (Oops - except the bit of brown rice syrup in my hazelnut milk, which doesn't taste sweet & beLIEVE me I easily notice sweet)

Mtndog Collaborator

Hello My Sillies!!!!!!! Where HAVE I been? If anyone knows, please let ME know. :blink: :blink: susieQ-I'm glad that you are feeling better and Ptaum too (beware the wormies!)

Well, OK, I have been rather busy feeling wretched interviewing strong men for the gardening assistant position open at my estate this summer (OK- so I don't REALLY have an estate!). I Open Original Shared Link Has no experience but I'm SURE he'll work out fine!

That one almost got by me :lol:

Oh- almost got bev'd again! :P

I can't believe (and honestly, I think my husband thinks I'm wackl) what good friends you guys are without meeting in person or going on outings and all that stuff!!

I know :wub: :wub: :wub: but I'm gonna get to actually meet you! BONUS!

Hey! Just got a call from the hospital - - Dad's coming home, so I gotta go get him. He's been there a month...can you believe it?

yahoo!!!!!!!!! OUR dad is coming home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wub: :wub: :wub: You know, our pets, our dads!!!!!!!!

I clicked on your link at work and was NOT amused!

Good gosh- when good links go bad! :ph34r:

I had a My Space page for a short time--Bronco started a Celiac group over there--anyway some guy tried to hit on me (not from the Celiac group and obviously nearsighted).

Now Miss Patti, I would beg to differ...... :D

Got it . ...one avatoilettar coming up!

:ph34r:

Back by Poopular Demandworming!

Open Original Shared Link Destruction!!

:lol:

Oh I AM still playin' passtheparasite :o

:lol:

I have been feeling like one big booger lately and then yesterday, thought I was out of the woods so I started my new blood pressure medication this a.m followed by two hours of wretched nausea and what-goes-along with that. Then i get a phone call that one of my IV meds has been recalled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alas, trying to keep chin up- Kurt and I are going to the Cape/Nantucket this weekend. It's going to rain all weekend and I don't care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wub: :wub:

nikki-uk Enthusiast
NOW ya tell me!!! :lol: I put the first patch on last night, and Ho-lee crap, did I have some crazy dreams last night, one of them involving Patti, Emily, and myself getting a loft apartment together a la Friends. :blink: I'm not kidding, you guys are even in my dreams. :lol: Actually, the dreams didn't bother me, so much as the twitchy-ness. Restless legs, and whole-body twitches too.

:lol: ....sorry....yeah the twitches!!!!!!!!

I just used to have a patch ready (packet already open) on the bedside table.

.. :lol: ...alarm would go off....slapped on the patch.....VOILA!!

There is around a 20 min gap before the patch kicks in BUT the gum can cover you in that dodgy time

:lol::lol:

OMGawd - I sound like a hardcore rehabber :blink:

Good work Sarah!! :D

PS-- The loft in the dream was sooo awesome, much cooler and more vintagey than the Friends loft.

Tasteful crazy dreams are indeed a bonus

Was I the only one who saw King Richard IN-THREAD less than an hour ago?

T'was where his old link led that brought him out of his cave I tell ya :lol:

DingoGirl Enthusiast
T'was where his old link led that brought him out of his cave I tell ya :lol:

:lol: Yes, this is what I was going to say - - he had to fix his good-links-gone-bad situation!!!!!! and you know.....he really should write a small summary on the first page of this thread - -saying - - "just jump to page 200 to see what it's REALLY about" ha ha :lol: wackl

BEAVERLY!!!!!!!!! so HEINOUS on your nausea, poopy cow! :angry: but - OMG - I finally figured out where that gorgeous guy was from from whence that gorgeous guy emerged - - he was the MASSIVE hottie in Love Actually!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But - - I'm sorry to have to tell you - - he IS coming here for an extended stay, to help me finish painting the house, etc. I"ll SEE if I can send him when he's finished.......that is, if he actually WANTS to leave here....... :lol: :lol:

I phorgot what else - and Squeezee is staring - wants a walk - mommy does not WANT to walk now - but - I must.......

Sarah - love the loft dream.........

later my sillies

blueeyedmanda Community Regular

I also have a Myspace, I think it's fun.

If anyone wants to be my myspace friend pm me....I'll add you guys, it will be nice to have my silly friends on there :)

nikki-uk Enthusiast
I also have a Myspace, I think it's fun.

If anyone wants to be my myspace friend pm me....I'll add you guys, it will be nice to have my silly friends on there :)

...but... :unsure: .....I'm scared..... :unsure:

elye Community Regular
Richard is probably quietly reading and chuckling at how his link morphed into the depths of depravity :unsure:

Still not certain how this happened...someone switched the link address, just to be mean/rude/stoopid?....Was it perhaps the person who posted here from work a couple of pages back, claiming to be "not amused?"..... :huh:

I'll have to see if I can get roomie to lie down in the background of the photo, for thematic continuity

:lol::lol:

Janet!! Another project for you.....we need you to superimpose roomie behind Ptaum's worm in his new av. In fact, he could go everywhere...at the feet of the Kisseys in Big Sur, underneath the bar where my absinthe girl sits, beside Landen, wrapped around Patti's crystal glasses, or around Julie.... :lol::rolleyes:

Let the buggers (I'm talkin' hair now, people, not Ptaum's pets) turn grEy!!!! I can't be bothered!! Did I tell you guys I only wear mascara and chapstick?

Well! Just wait until the gals over in Mineral-freeville hear about you!

one of them involving Patti, Emily, and myself getting a loft apartment together a la Friends. :blink: I'm not kidding, you guys are even in my dreams.

:lol:

Yay! I made it into a dream!

Sarah, please tell me I was Courtenay Cox - - a longtime dream of mine.... :rolleyes:

Oh I AM still playin' passtheparasite :o

Whoa! Anything like Password?! My family's always looking out for new board games. Think you may need to be in fairly intimate company for this one...... :lol:

So . . . I had to go back . . . 'tis in my nature . . . apparently, that link was from page TWO!!!!! Now that might be a little hint why no one wants to join us. They start reading at the beginning, get to page two, become offended and off they go . . . Oh, and then there's Emily for the ones that start at this end.

:lol::lol:

Yep, we got both ends covered.....

Mtndog Collaborator
Heeee-LARRY-us!!!!!

Next time can I & Peter and/or Richard live across the hall????????? :huh::lol:

Was I the only one who saw King Richard IN-THREAD less than an hour ago?

:wub::rolleyes: What a great dream- I've always said they need communities (like the one my dad lives in) for peeps our age cuz it would be like living in a dorm. But we would have to have cooler apartments.....like the one in your dream!!!!!!!! Egads- imagine Ptaum, Peter and Richard. Let's see- I think Richard would be Chandler, Ptaum would be Joey "How YOU doing?' and Peter would be Ross :rolleyes:

Clearly Susie is Phoebe!!!!!!!!!!!!"Smelly Cat, smelly cat, what are they feeding you?"

And I meant to say....you GO Sarah- I'm rooting for you on the quitting smoking! :lol:

And poor Richard's link.....oy vey! I just typed it in instead of clicking on it and got a TOTALLY different website! :blink:

he was the MASSIVE hottie in Love Actually!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But - - I'm sorry to have to tell you - - he IS coming here for an extended stay, to help me finish painting the house, etc. I"ll SEE if I can send him when he's finished.......that is, if he actually WANTS to leave here....... :lol: :lol:

Tis true BUT he is currently an out of work actor :P I called the FAA cuz I got friends in high places and they have rerouted his plane so he will not parachute out over Phresno. :P

Darn210 Enthusiast
Still not certain how this happened...someone switched the link address, just to be mean/rude/stoopid?....Was it perhaps the person who posted here from work a couple of pages back, claiming to be "not amused?"..... :huh:

Oh No . . . it was more like a year and a half ago, that link lead to some heinous mullet hair-do's . . . but now that particular address is under new management and leads to . . . :ph34r: some different kind of hair . . . and all kinds of doings :ph34r:

Well! Just wait until the gals over in Mineral-freeville hear about you!

They already know. When I went looking for Richard, they tried to reel me in, but I was havin' none of that!!! If you put make-up on in the morning, you have to get up earlier -_- (<---Hardly ever get to use that one!)

Whoa! Anything like Password?! My family's always looking out for new board games. Think you may need to be in fairly intimate company for this one...... :lol:

More like "Pass the Present" . . . whenever the music stops, who ever is holding the parasite gets to . . . keep it???

jerseyangel Proficient
NOW ya tell me!!! :lol: I put the first patch on last night, and Ho-lee crap, did I have some crazy dreams last night, one of them involving Patti, Emily, and myself getting a loft apartment together a la Friends. :blink: I'm not kidding, you guys are even in my dreams. :lol: Actually, the dreams didn't bother me, so much as the twitchy-ness. Restless legs, and whole-body twitches too.

Your dream--I love it! :D Hope you sleep better tonight, though.

Was I the only one who saw King Richard IN-THREAD less than an hour ago?

I saw him on the online list....not here, though.

I have been feeling like one big booger lately and then yesterday, thought I was out of the woods so I started my new blood pressure medication this a.m followed by two hours of wretched nausea and what-goes-along with that. Then i get a phone call that one of my IV meds has been recalled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alas, trying to keep chin up- Kurt and I are going to the Cape/Nantucket this weekend. It's going to rain all weekend and I don't care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wub: :wub:

Bevie Wevie, you poor thing :( Take heart--I've been on BP meds for years now and they all affected me like that in the beginning, but your system should get used to it soon. The "water pill" type was the worst for me--I can't take those at all--I think they really can affect the inner ear.

Have a great time this weekend! :)

How jealous am I of you and Janet getting to meet :angry::lol::lol:

OMGawd - I sound like a hardcore rehabber :blink:

:lol::lol:

Still not certain how this happened...someone switched the link address, just to be mean/rude/stoopid?....Was it perhaps the person who posted here from work a couple of pages back, claiming to be "not amused?"..... :huh:

I've toiled this afternoon getting rid of all evidence of the unfortunate linkage snafu. B) Don't quite know how it happened--some sort of odd mixup, I suspect, but it wasn't the unamused poster....she just happened onto it. Probably would have happened sooner or later. ;)

Onward and upward! :P

Darn210 Enthusiast
And poor Richard's link.....oy vey! I just typed it in instead of clicking on it and got a TOTALLY different website! :blink:

Really???

The links are gone now so I can't test it out for meself.

Darn210 Enthusiast
How jealous am I of you and Janet getting to meet :angry::lol::lol:

Oh Yes . . . I'm even going to Nantucket with Bev & Kurt!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

Actually, all we've got are phone numbers and no plans . . . Bev's got a very busy schedule . . . she's going to try and squeeze me in.

Ridgewalker Contributor

Well, for the first time, I just got busted for over emoticonizing! How utterly style-cramping and expressiveness-squashing! HARUMPH!

:lol: ....sorry....yeah the twitches!!!!!!!!

I just used to have a patch ready (packet already open) on the bedside table.

.. :lol: ...alarm would go off....slapped on the patch.....VOILA!!

There is around a 20 min gap before the patch kicks in BUT the gum can cover you in that dodgy time

:lol::lol:

OMGawd - I sound like a hardcore rehabber :blink:

Good work Sarah!! :D

Thanks! Hey that's a good idea... Actually, I hit the snooze button for about 30 minutes anyway, lol ... So if I put the patch on the first time I hit it, then by the time I'm really awake, it'll be working. Perfect!

:lol:

Yay! I made it into a dream!

Sarah, please tell me I was Courtenay Cox - - a longtime dream of mine.... :rolleyes:

Oh, totally! lol

:wub::rolleyes: What a great dream- I've always said they need communities (like the one my dad lives in) for peeps our age cuz it would be like living in a dorm. But we would have to have cooler apartments.....like the one in your dream!!!!!!!! Egads- imagine Ptaum, Peter and Richard. Let's see- I think Richard would be Chandler, Ptaum would be Joey "How YOU doing?' and Peter would be Ross :rolleyes:

Clearly Susie is Phoebe!!!!!!!!!!!!"Smelly Cat, smelly cat, what are they feeding you?"

Omg, I think so too-- I would love it if we could get back to living in tiny villages or compounds... Yeah, that'd be awesome. (Not a primitive village, like without electricity and hot water, though. lol ) Your casting for the guys!!! EXACTLY what I thought when Tom mentioned it! lol

And I meant to say....you GO Sarah- I'm rooting for you on the quitting smoking! :lol:

Thanks! :wub:

Your dream--I love it! :D Hope you sleep better tonight, though.

Thanks! I think I will. The lack of sleep last night has made me quite exhausted already... yawwwwwn... and it's only about 5:30.

Plus it's all rainy and chilly again. :angry: It was almost 80 the past couple days, then we got this darn cold front... And it's like 45. :wacko: Probably the same thing you and Amanda are getting. Makes me want to hibernate! -_-

tom Contributor

Dandy new av Pseuzee - I'll guess Granite Creek :1eyebrowupface:

Bev said Nantucket & chin in the same sentence. :P:lol:

Janet!! Another project for you.....we need you to superimpose roomie behind Ptaum's worm in his new av. In fact, he could go everywhere...at the feet of the Kisseys in Big Sur, underneath the bar where my absinthe girl sits, beside Landen, wrapped around Patti's crystal glasses, or around Julie.... :lol::rolleyes:

:lol:

Well! Just wait until the gals over in Mineral-freeville hear about you!

Can't call it EM-ville can ya?? :P

Whoa! Anything like Password?! My family's always looking out for new board games. Think you may need to be in fairly intimate company for this one...... :lol:

EM!!!!!!!! Why must you force me to think these things!!! . .. .. Would it resemble that "Pass the Orange" game, where it's held under one's chin? Will youtubers soon find examples when searching for Fred Astaire doing Irving Berlin's "Cheek to Cheek"?

I called the FAA cuz I got friends in high places and they have rerouted his plane so he will not parachute out over Phresno. :P

:lol:

elye Community Regular
What a great dream- I've always said they need communities (like the one my dad lives in) for peeps our age cuz it would be like living in a dorm. But we would have to have cooler apartments.....like the one in your dream!!!!!!!! Egads- imagine Ptaum, Peter and Richard. Let's see- I think Richard would be Chandler, Ptaum would be Joey "How YOU doing?' and Peter would be Ross ...

Clearly Susie is Phoebe!!!!!!!!!!!!"Smelly Cat, smelly cat, what are they feeding you?"

As long as I get to be Monica.....Okay, just LOOK like her - - for an hour, even.....

More like "Pass the Present" . . . whenever the music stops, who ever is holding the parasite gets to . . . keep it???

...Or Parasite Twister...I've always thought that lots of things could be passed around during that game..... :huh:

Your dream--I love it! :D Hope you sleep better tonight, though.

Patti, I could see us together in a cool little lofty apartment, with those crazy guys across the hall....you'd be on laundry duty. I'll chase away people we don't want around (and likely those who are welcome, as well) :rolleyes: ...Sarah, ya gotta be smoke-free! (BTW, CONGRATS on the great day so far!! You're gonna do this.....!)

How jealous am I of you and Janet getting to meet

Me, too!! When, O when, shall we all meeteth together?

jerseyangel Proficient
Patti, I could see us together in a cool little lofty apartment, with those crazy guys across the hall....you'd be on laundry duty. I'll chase away people we don't want around (and likely those who are welcome, as well) :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: Can you imagine the wacky hijinks that would ensue? :lol:

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      Hello, @asaT, I'm curious to know whether you are taking other B vitamins like Thiamine B1 and Niacin B3.  Malabsorption in Celiac disease affects all the water soluble B vitamins and Vitamin C.  Thiamine and Niacin are required to produce energy for all the homocysteine lowering reactions provided by Folate, Cobalamine and Pyridoxine.   Weight gain with a voracious appetite is something I experienced while malnourished.  It's symptomatic of Thiamine B1 deficiency.   Conversely, some people with thiamine deficiency lose their appetite altogether, and suffer from anorexia.  At different periods on my lifelong journey, I suffered this, too.   When the body doesn't have sufficient thiamine to turn food, especially carbohydrates, into energy (for growth and repair), the body rations what little thiamine it has available, and turns the carbs into fat, and stores it mostly in the abdomen.  Consuming a high carbohydrate diet requires additional thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  Simple carbohydrates (sugar, white rice, etc.) don't contain thiamine, so the body easily depletes its stores of Thiamine processing the carbs into fat.  The digestive system communicates with the brain to keep eating in order to consume more thiamine and other nutrients it's not absorbing.   One can have a subclinical thiamine insufficiency for years.  A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function, so the symptoms can wax and wane mysteriously.  Symptoms of Thiamine insufficiency include stunted growth, chronic fatigue, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi (diarrhea, abdominal pain), heart attack, Alzheimer's, stroke, and cancer.   Thiamine improves bone turnover.  Thiamine insufficiency can also affect the thyroid.  The thyroid is important in bone metabolism.  The thyroid also influences hormones, like estrogen and progesterone, and menopause.  Vitamin D, at optimal levels, can act as a hormone and can influence the thyroid, as well as being important to bone health, and regulating the immune system.  Vitamin A is important to bone health, too, and is necessary for intestinal health, as well.   I don't do dairy because I react to Casein, the protein in dairy that resembles gluten and causes a reaction the same as if I'd been exposed to gluten, including high tTg IgA.  I found adding mineral water containing calcium and other minerals helpful in increasing my calcium intake.   Malabsorption of Celiac affects all the vitamins and minerals.  I do hope you'll talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing all eight B vitamins and the four fat soluble vitamins because they all work together interconnectedly.  
    • Florence Lillian
      Hi Jane: You may want to try the D3 I now take. I have reactions to fillers and many additives. Sports Research, it is based in the USA and I have had no bad reactions with this brand. The D3 does have coconut oil but it is non GMO, it is Gluten free, Soy free, Soybean free and Safflower oil free.  I have a cupboard full of supplements that did not agree with me -  I just keep trying and have finally settled on Sports Research. I take NAKA Women's Multi full spectrum, and have not felt sick after taking 2 capsules per day -  it is a Canadian company. I buy both from Amazon. I wish you well in your searching, I know how discouraging it all is. Florence.  
    • catnapt
      highly unlikely  NOTHING and I mean NOTHING else has ever caused me these kinds of symptoms I have no problem with dates, they are a large part of my diet In fact, I eat a very high fiber, very high vegetable and bean diet and have for many years now. It's considered a whole foods plant based or plant forward diet (I do now eat some lean ground turkey but not much) I was off dairy for years but recently had to add back plain yogurt to meet calcium needs that I am not allowed to get from supplements (I have not had any problem with the yogurt)   I eat almost no processed foods. I don't eat out. almost everything I eat, I cook myself I am going to keep a food diary but to be honest, I already know that it's wheat products and also barley that are the problem, which is why I gradually stopped eating and buying them. When I was eating them, like back in early 2024, when I was in the middle of moving and ate out (always had bread or toast or rolls or a sub or pizza) I felt terrible but at that time was so busy and exhausted that I never stopped to think it was the food. Once I was in my new place, I continued to have bread from time to time and had such horrible joint pain that I was preparing for 2 total knee replacements as well as one hip! The surgery could not go forward as I was (and still am) actively losing calcium from my bones. That problem has yet to be properly diagnosed and treated   anyway over time I realized that I felt better when I stopped eating bread. Back at least 3 yrs ago I noticed that regular pasta made me sick so I switched to brown rice pasta and even though it costs a lot more, I really like it.   so gradually I just stopped buying and eating foods with gluten. I stopped getting raisin bran when I was constipated because it made me bloated and it didn't help the constipation any more (used to be a sure bet that it would in the past)   I made cookies and brownies using beans and rolled oats and dates and tahini and I LOVE them and have zero issues eating those I eat 1 or more cans of beans per day easily can eat a pound of broccoli - no problem! Brussels sprouts the same thing.   so yeh it's bread and related foods that are clearly the problem  there is zero doubt in my mind    
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