English Oats

[jennyj]

A guy I share info and recipes with came into our store today and said he was going to make some oatmeal cookies this weekend. I asked him if oats weren't on our no-no list and he said not English oats sold in bulk by HyVee stores. I am so careful and do not want to try them unless I know for sure. He likes to "cheat" and I don't know. Can anyone answer this???????

[happygirl]

Here is what I posted on another thread:

Here's what I know, and it seems like there are two issues at hand (this is all simplified, maybe someone else can add more!)

1. Most commercially grown oats (including Quaker) are grow in fields that are rotated with wheat/gluten. So they believe in the processing, wheat can get mixed in, which would explain why some people react to oats. There are some oats (McCann's is one brand) that is purposely grown in non-wheat rotated fields and has been said to be safe, by experts...but others disagree.

go to www.celiac.com and on the right, do a search for "oats" you will see the following articles, plus about 30 more

https://www.celiac.com/st_prod.html?p_prodi...-06106158051.62

https://www.celiac.com/st_prod.html?p_prodi...-06106158051.62

https://www.celiac.com/st_prod.html?p_prodi...-06106158051.62

https://www.celiac.com/st_prod.html?p_prodi...-06106158051.62

2. another thought is along the lines of the fact that the oat protein is structurally similar to the gluten protein, so that is why some react. Other experts say it causes damage in all.

Some people on the board eat uncontaminated oats, and others do not.

and tarnalberry wrote:

"There's a two-fold issue with oats:

1) no mainstream available-in-the-US brand of oats are free of contamination, or have contamination at levels regularly below the 200ppm CODEX standard. there are two companies in the US and one in Canada that grow, mill, and transport gluten-free oats that are not contaminated, but are much more expensive.

2) regardless of contamination, approximately 10% of celiacs react to the oat protein, avenin, with a classic celiac reaction themselves. there is no test to determine if you react to pure oats themselves."

from: Open Original Shared Link

these two posts sum it up pretty well. I know that Mccann's is one safe brand, I know there is at least one other and can't remember.

So...I can't really answer your question but I hope it helps in your decision making. That 'brand' may or may not be safe but thsi will give you the background info that you need to decide if you feel comfortable eating certified safe oats.

[Lisa]

ditto what Laura said

[jennyj]

Thanks for the info. I don't think I'm ready to try it. I like feeling good.

[happygirl]

Jenny, happy to help

[nikki-uk]

Just to add,- just because the Oats are English doesn't mean they are ok.

I'm in the UK and neither my hubby or son have Oats (we have the same contamination risks as in the US)

Laura's given you some great links and I reckon the 'oat debate' will rumble on!!

It's a personal choice as to whether you would ever want to try them but for my hubby he has had to work so hard to make any ground healthwise since his dx with celiac disease that it's just too scary!!!

[lpellegr]

I read a report which tested batches of various types of oats for gluten, one of which was McCann's Irish Oats, and there was contamination in all of them, although it varied from very high to very low. For now I'll avoid oats and just dream about Cheerios.

[happygirl]

I read a report which tested batches of various types of oats for gluten, one of which was McCann's Irish Oats, and there was contamination in all of them, although it varied from very high to very low. For now I'll avoid oats and just dream about Cheerios.

Do you have a reference to this? Thanks!