Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Wondering What This Could Mean


daltons

Recommended Posts

daltons Rookie

When my step son was diagnosed with Celiac, my husband and I decided that we were going to try the gluten free diet to see what effect it had on us, so we tried last week. My husband was unable to stick with it for one day, but I ate gluten free for about 4 days. Over the weekend we went out to eat and I ate a very small amount of gluten on Sat. night, and then a little larger amount on Sunday afternoon (Superbowl....). I had horrible stomach cramps all night Sunday night and a little diarrhea late Sun. night and Mon. morning. I've since gone back to eating gluten free. During the four days I was gluten free, after the first day or two, my stomach felt much better and I did have more energy. I have no idea if that had anything to do with going gluten free, but it seemed to. Could this mean that I have a gluten intolerance, or is this something that would happen to anyone? I don't think that I have Celiac disease, is gluten bad for pretty much anybody?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



darlindeb25 Collaborator

Of course it could mean you have a gluten sensitivity. Eating gluten-free can't hurt you and if you feel better eating gluten-free, then you should do it. Now my mom eats gluten-free with my dad, yet when they go to Senior Dinners and the like, she eats gluten and it doesn't effect her, so I would say, you just may need to be gluten-free.

daltons Rookie
Of course it could mean you have a gluten sensitivity. Eating gluten-free can't hurt you and if you feel better eating gluten-free, then you should do it. Now my mom eats gluten-free with my dad, yet when they go to Senior Dinners and the like, she eats gluten and it doesn't effect her, so I would say, you just may need to be gluten-free.

Well, one of the reasons I ask is because I have read so many conflicting things about going gluten free when you don't have celiac. I've read that it can be harmful to your body, but then I've read that about 99% of people should eat gluten free. I think I am going to continue with the diet and see if there are any other improvements. Anyway, thanks for the reply.

happygirl Collaborator

Eating gluten free, even for someone who does not have a gluten problem, is NOT unhealthy. As long as they eat a well rounded diet and are getting similar nutrients from other sources, most people will be fine. There is nothing that gluten has in itself that you cannot get from another product.

However, some doctors think that the diet is restrictive and don't think people should be on the diet unless they have a reason to be.

If you want to be tested for Celiac, you must continue eating gluten. Otherwise, the tests will not be accurate (i.e., a negative won't really tell you if you are really negative).

All that being said, you don't need a doctor's diagnosis to eat gluten free. Many on this board feel better on a gluten free diet, whether it is due to Celiac, non-Celiac gluten intolerance, gluten allergy...and many others have never been tested or have had inconclusive results.

blueeyedmanda Community Regular

There are so many foods that are naturally gluten free so I can't see why people say the diet is unhealthy for non-celiacs. I do believe that our diet does lack some nutrients so as long as you are getting a balanced diet there shouldn't be a problem.

If being gluten free is making you feel better all around, well thats enough of a reason to keep going. :)

CMCM Rising Star

I've done a LOT of reading on gluten and celiac disease, etc. and one thing is emphasized over and over: There is ZERO need to eat wheat/rye/barley...the main gluten grains. Wheat is actually POISON....if you put gluten into a petri dish with human tissue, the gluten attacks the tissue. Gluten containing grains have only been eaten for a small part of human history...enabled by the development of agriculture, cultivation, and with the advent of processing machinery....all fairly recently. Therefore, humans had a very LONG history of eating no grains. The agricultural/advertising folks want to convince you that these grains are necessary to get adequate fiber in your diet, but actually, more than enough fiber can be eaten via vegetables (particularly raw ones) and fruits.

New research is pointing to the idea that at least 80% of Americans are gluten sensitive, and a smaller amount...perhaps 3 to 5% are celiac. Gluten sensitivity causes an unbelievable number of symptoms, many of them unrelated to the digestive system.

I suggest getting the very readable book called "Dangerous Grains" (on Amazon, about $10). It will really open your eyes to the whole thing. It lists over 200 symptoms/conditions that can be/often are related to eating gluten.

From your description, you certainly sound gluten sensitive at the very least. My feeling after all the reading I've done is this: People would be much better off not eating wheat/rye/barley at all. I think our daily gorging on gluten containing foods is largely behind the very recent epidemic of diabetes and overweight among children, and the general overweight condition of Americans. Remember that gluten is also very very addictive, and most people are eating in in all sorts of products multiple times per day. This keeps the body in a continual state of inflammation as the body tries to deal with this poison inside the digestive system.

lonewolf Collaborator

It's very possible that you could be gluten sensitive. And I agree that you DON'T need gluten grains to be healthy. I've been off wheat (and eaten very little gluten) for almost 11 years now and am healthy. If you feel better gluten-free or gluten "lite" then stick with it. It will help your step-son too to see that he's not the only one eating that way.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



CMCM Rising Star

I might add that my celiac mom was diagnosed in 1969...not a single intentional gluten grain has passed her lips since then...and she's a very healthy, happy, young looking 86 year old! So 37+ years without grains hasn't hurt her a bit! :P

Guest happynwgal
I might add that my celiac mom was diagnosed in 1969...not a single intentional gluten grain has passed her lips since then...and she's a very healthy, happy, young looking 86 year old! So 37+ years without grains hasn't hurt her a bit! :P

Wow, what a great thing to hear about your mom - 37 years on gluten free! Good for her. Just goes to show that grains are NOT needed to be healthy.

Guest happynwgal
When my step son was diagnosed with Celiac, my husband and I decided that we were going to try the gluten free diet to see what effect it had on us, so we tried last week. My husband was unable to stick with it for one day, but I ate gluten free for about 4 days. Over the weekend we went out to eat and I ate a very small amount of gluten on Sat. night, and then a little larger amount on Sunday afternoon (Superbowl....). I had horrible stomach cramps all night Sunday night and a little diarrhea late Sun. night and Mon. morning. I've since gone back to eating gluten free. During the four days I was gluten free, after the first day or two, my stomach felt much better and I did have more energy. I have no idea if that had anything to do with going gluten free, but it seemed to. Could this mean that I have a gluten intolerance, or is this something that would happen to anyone? I don't think that I have Celiac disease, is gluten bad for pretty much anybody?

I was just diagnosed with gluten intolerance and I am SURE that you will NOT get hurt being on a gluten free diet if you are not sensitive to gluten.

Sounds to me like you might be, though. Somebody else suggested you continue eating gluten and get diagnosed - it is just a simple bloodtest that comes back in just a few days. It will tell you if you are gluten intolerant. If the answer is yes, then you can discuss with your doctor if you should go on to the biopsy to see if the villi inside your gut has been damaged. I chose not to do that, because it is enough for me to know I should stay off gluten. Celiac/gluten intolerance is same treatment - my nephew is diagnosed Celiac, so I probably am, too. Runs in families... My brother, whose son is celiac, is probably an undiagnosed celiac - but refuses to have it looked into.....

Good luck! And welcome to this friendly community... I am thrilled with what I am learning here. Gives me hope that I will be able to live gluten-free for the rest of my life.

daltons Rookie
I was just diagnosed with gluten intolerance and I am SURE that you will NOT get hurt being on a gluten free diet if you are not sensitive to gluten.

Sounds to me like you might be, though. Somebody else suggested you continue eating gluten and get diagnosed - it is just a simple bloodtest that comes back in just a few days. It will tell you if you are gluten intolerant. If the answer is yes, then you can discuss with your doctor if you should go on to the biopsy to see if the villi inside your gut has been damaged. I chose not to do that, because it is enough for me to know I should stay off gluten. Celiac/gluten intolerance is same treatment - my nephew is diagnosed Celiac, so I probably am, too. Runs in families... My brother, whose son is celiac, is probably an undiagnosed celiac - but refuses to have it looked into.....

Good luck! And welcome to this friendly community... I am thrilled with what I am learning here. Gives me hope that I will be able to live gluten-free for the rest of my life.

Wow, thank you for all the replies. I am very health conscious, so I want to be sure I'm not harming myself in any way. I have noticed though, that since going gluten free that my face has been breaking out pretty badly. Anyone else have this problem? I'm sure it's just the change in diet and hopefully once my body gets used to it, it will go away.

TygerCubs Rookie
Wow, thank you for all the replies. I am very health conscious, so I want to be sure I'm not harming myself in any way. I have noticed though, that since going gluten free that my face has been breaking out pretty badly. Anyone else have this problem? I'm sure it's just the change in diet and hopefully once my body gets used to it, it will go away.

My face broke out too. It seems to be clearing up now.

TestyTommy Rookie

I agree that there is NO downside to eating gluten-free, even if you have don't have celiac.

When I was being diagnosed, I remember reading how doctors insist that everyone get a biopsy before they take the "extreme" step of going gluten-free, and I couldn't figure out why they thought it was such a big deal. Compare to how sick I was (and how many weird things I had tried in desperation) eating gluten-free seemed pretty trivial.

What I've realized (and confirmed by conversations with doctors) is what a warped view of humanity doctors have. Doctors spend the overwhelming amount of their time with people who are trying to kill themselves -- smokers, drinkers, drug addicts, morbidly obese people. Doctors assume that everyone who sees them is stupid, lazy and uncooperative. That's why many of them don't bother telling diabetes patients that their disease can be managed thru diet. Why bother? Patients are all non-compliant whiners

I think the doctors who think eating gluten-free is extreme or dangerous say that because, for the 'typical' patient, trying to eat gluten-free would be impossible. Doctors don't have any first-hand experience with people like us who actually WANT to be healthy and will work to do so.

sfm Apprentice
Wow, thank you for all the replies. I am very health conscious, so I want to be sure I'm not harming myself in any way. I have noticed though, that since going gluten free that my face has been breaking out pretty badly. Anyone else have this problem? I'm sure it's just the change in diet and hopefully once my body gets used to it, it will go away.

Just a note - my face broke out when I first went gluten free - but since has gotten better, and is much less prone to breakouts. I've been gluten free since just before Thanksgiving.

I hope that helps.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jhona's topic in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
      32

      Does anyone here also have Afib

    2. - knitty kitty replied to lehum's topic in Super Sensitive People
      9

      4.5 years into diagnosis, eating gluten-free and still struggling: would love support, tips, & stories

    3. - Scott Adams replied to Hmart's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      9

      Is this celiac?

    4. - Theresa2407 replied to Hmart's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      9

      Is this celiac?

    5. - Hmart replied to Hmart's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      9

      Is this celiac?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,939
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Michelle C.
    Newest Member
    Michelle C.
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @DebJ14, You said "husband has low platelets, bruises easily and gets bloody noses just from Fish Oil  He suggested he take Black Cumin Seed Oil for inflammation.  He discovered that by taking the Black Seed oil, he can eat carbs and not go into A Fib, since it does such a good job of reducing inflammation."   I don't think black seed oil is lowering inflammation.  It's lowering blood glucose levels. Black cumin seed lowers blood glucose levels.  There's a connection between high blood glucose levels and Afib.    Has your husband been checked for diabetes?   Must Read: Associations of high-normal blood pressure and impaired fasting glucose with atrial fibrillation https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36750354/  
    • knitty kitty
      Healthy Omega Three fats.  Olive oil or flaxseed oil, oily fish, fatty cuts of meat.   Our bodies run much better on burning fats as fuel.  Diets based on carbohydrates require an increased amount of thiamine to process the carbs into fuel for the body.  Unfortunately, thiamine mononitrate is used to enrich rice.  Thiamine mononitrate is relatively unusable in the body.  So a high carb diet can further decrease thiamine stores in the body.  Insufficient thiamine in the body causes the body to burn body fat and muscle for fuel, so weight loss and muscle wasting occurs.  Those extra carbohydrates can lead to Candida (often confused with mold toxicity) and SIBO (Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth).   Losing weight quickly is a symptom of thiamine insufficiency.  Muscle wasting is a symptom of thiamine insufficiency.  I lost sixty pounds in a month.   Having difficulty putting weight on and keeping it on is a symptom of thiamine insufficiency.   The AIP diet works because it eliminates all grains and grasses, rice, quinoa, all the carbs.  Without the carbs, the Candida and SIBO get starved and die off.  Easy way to change your microbiome is to change what you feed it.  With the rowdy neighbors gone, the intestine can heal and absorb more nutrients.   Supplementing with essential vitamins and minerals is beneficial.  Talk to your doctor and nutritionist.  Benfotiamine is a form of thiamine that promotes intestinal healing.  The eight B vitamins are water soluble, so if you don't need them, they can be gotten rid of easily.   Night shades are excluded on the AIP diet.  Potatoes, tomatoes, peppers and eggplant are not allowed on the AIP diet.  They contain alkaloids that promote "a leaky gut".  Benfotiamine can help here. Sweet potatoes are avoided because they contain thiaminases, chemicals that break thiamine so that the body cannot use it.   The AIP diet has helped me.
    • Scott Adams
      The reaction one gets when they get glutened varies a lot from person to person.  This article has some detailed information on how to be 100% gluten-free, so it may be helpful (be sure to also read the comments section.):    
    • Theresa2407
      A gluten ingestion can last for many months.  Many years ago there was a celiac conference in Fl.  Everyone there got contaminated with some having difficulty 6 months to recover.  It will hit your Lympatic system and spread  through the body and effect your nevous system as well. Most times when I get glutened it is from a prescription med that wasn't checked close enough.  the Pharmacuticals change vendors all the time.
    • Hmart
      Thank you so much for the responses. Every piece of information helps.  I only knowingly ate gluten once, that was four days ago. I had the reaction about 3-4 hours after consuming it. I’m concerned that after 4 days the symptoms aren’t abating and almost seem worse today than yesterday.  I haven’t had either breath test. I did ask about additional testing but the PA recommended me to a celiac specialist. Unfortunately the first available is mid-December.  As far as diet, I am a pescatarian (have been for 25+ years) and I stopped eating dairy mid-last week as my stomach discomfort continued. Right now, I’m having trouble eating anything. Have mostly been focused on bananas, grapes, nut butters, DF yogurt, eggs, veggie broth.   I ordered some gluten-free meal replacements to help.  But I’ll get all the items (thank goodness for Instacart) and try the diet you recommended to get me past this period of feeling completely awful.  Yes, my doctor diagnosed celiac. I was concerned it wasn’t right based on the negative blood test and my continued symptoms.  Even if you are ‘glutened’ it shouldn’t last forever, right? Is four days too long?   
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.