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Hello @Midwesteaglesfan and welcome. A result greater than 10 U/mL is considered positive. Some labs use 15 as the cutoff, but 34 is in the positive. The endoscopy and biopsy is looking for damage to your small intestine. I don't don't think 5 days is enough to repair the damage. This comment is effectly your answer, regardless of your biopsy... -
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By Wheatwacked · Posted
Hello @Midwesteaglesfan and welcome. A result greater than 10 U/mL is considered positive. Some labs use 15 as the cutoff, but 34 is in the positive. The endoscopy and biopsy is looking for damage to your small intestine. I don't don't think 5 days is enough to repair the damage. This comment is effectly your answer, regardless of your biopsy results. The endoscopy has been the Gold Standard diagnostic, and most healthcare providers won't diagnose celiac disease until your intestinal lining Marsh Score reaches stage 3. You don't really want to wait for the damage to get worse, especially since only five days mostly gluten free gave you relief. Yes, migranes is one of the 200 symptoms that may be caused by Celiac Disease. Malabsorption Syndrome is often comorbid with celiac disease. The western diet is deficient in many vitamins and minerals. That's why gluten processed foods are fortified. Gluten free processed foods are not; Vitamin D deficiency is a virtual given. 40 to 60% of the industrial population is deficient in vitamin D, Damage to the intestinal lining from celiac disease can decrease the number of vitamin D receptors. So now you get no vitamin D from the sun (skin cancer scare) the major source of vitamin D, plus absorbtion from food is poor because of intestinal damage. Low iodine intake is getting more of a concern because the major source of iodine used to be bread (dough conditioner with iodine was stopped in the US in the 1970s), dairy (lactose intolerance from eating quick pickles with vinegar instead of fermented pickles which supply lactase excreting lactobacillus to improve Lactose intolerance. Commercial Dairies have wheat, barley and rye added to the cow feed. Some say they are sensitive to milk protein, but it is the gluten added to supplement the cow feed to increase milk production that becomes part of the milk protein causing the problem. And people use less iodized salt. In the US intake of iodine dropped 50% from 1970 to 1984. Switch to Grass fed only milk and consider supplementing Liquid Iodine drops to your diet. The omega 6 to omega 3 ratio of commercial milk is 5:1; Organic milk is 3:1 and grass fed milk is 1:1. The typical western diet is around 14:1, optimum for humans is 1:1. Wheat flour is 22:1 omega 6:3. Choose vegetables lower in omega 6, it is inflammatory. Eat fermented foods and switch to Grass fed only milk. Some say they are sensitive to milk protein, but it is the gluten added to supplement the cow feed to increase milk production that becomes part of the milk protein. -
By Midwesteaglesfan · Posted
At 41 years old I have been fighting fatigue and joint pain for a couple months. My family doctor kept saying nothing was wrong but I was insistent that I just didn’t feel right. Finally after running several blood labs, one came back showing inflammation in my body and I was referred to a rheumatologist. He was extremely thorough and sat with me and my family for a good hour asking questions and listening. He ordered X-rays of all my joints and more bloodwork. He suspected some sort of reactive inflammatory arthritis. My TTG (Tissue Transglutaminase) came back at 34. he told me to try going gluten free and out me on Salfasalzin to help the join inflammation. Over the next couple days going gluten free and doing a lot of research and talking to people with celiacs, we found that I should have an upper endoscopy for insurance purposes in the future. I reached back out to my rheumatologist and expressed this concern and he got back to me stating I was correct and resume regular gluten diet and stop the medication until after that scope. They were able to schedule me in for 2 days later. I had been gluten free, or as close to it as I could be for about 5 days. I know I ate some brats with it but wanted to use them up. My symptoms had gotten slightly better in those 5 days. I felt less fatigue and joint pain was slightly better(it had gotten really bad) so for these last 2 days I’ve gone crazy with wheat bread, pasta and such. I’m hoping those 5 days didn’t screw this endoscopy up. I can’t imagine after a life of gluten, my intestines healed in 5 days and after eating gluten again for these couple days, my stomach hurts, joint pain is coming back up so I know the inflammation is there. Hinesight after this diagnosis, I have had chronic migraines since my late teens. Has that been a lingering symptom of celiacs all these years? I’ve never really had the stomach issues, for me it came in heavy these last couple months as the fatigue, just always feeling tired and exhausted. And the joint pain. So getting in the car for the 2 hour drive to the hospital for this scope now. Wish me luck! -
By marlene333 · Posted
To play it safe, use Vasoline Lip Therapy. No questions as to it containing gluten. -
jmartes, Thank you for sharing more information with us. Most of us Celiacs whose problems do not clear up with in a few years have to decide what to do next. We can keep seeing DR.s and hope that we will get some medication or advice that will improve our health. Or we can go looking for other ways to improve our health. Usually Celiac Disease is not a killer disease, it is a disabling disease as you have found out. You have time to find some ways to help you recover. Stay on your gluten-free diet and be more careful in avoiding cross contamination . KnittyKitty and others here can give you advice about avoiding some foods that can give you the gluten auto immune reaction and advice about vitamins and supplement that help celiacs. You may need to take higher doses of Vit. B12 and D3. About 20 years before a Dr. suggested I might have Celiac disease I had health problems that all other Dr said they could not identify or treat. I was very opposed to alternative providers and treatments. So many people were getting help from a local healer I decided to try that out. It was a little helpful but then, because I had a good education in medical laboraties she gave me a book to read and what did I think. With great skeptism I started reading and before I was half way through it I began using the methods outlined in the book. Using those herbs and supplements I went from hardly able to work to being able to work almost fulltime. I still use that program. But because I had undiagnosed celiac disease by 10 years later some of my problems returned and I started to loose weight. So how does a person find a program that will benefit them? Among the programs you can find online there are many that are snake oil scams and some that will be beneficial. by asking around, as I did. Is there an ND in your area? Do they reccomend that person? If you would like to read about the program I use go to www.drclark.net
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By Scott Adams · Posted
It's unfortunate that they won't work with you on this, but in the end sometimes we have to take charge of our own health--which is exactly what happened to me. I did finally get the tests done, but only after years of going down various rabbit holes and suffering. Just quitting gluten may be the best path for you at this point.
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I do not have personal experience but my mom was a vegie for a while. When she started eating meat again it did not always sit well with her. It took several months for this "feeling" to go away. Keep in mind she was not dx as celiac yet so that might have had something to do with it as well. Hope you find better health with or without it!
Hez
We were veg or vegan for 8 years.
We've added meat back in due to all our intolerances. Amazingly we didn't have any problems picking back up on meat products. We buy our beef and chicken from www.uswellnessmeats.com
Wonderful meat.....100% grass fed.
Start out slow just in case though.
BTW, we all feel much better eating meat than not eating it. I really think it depends on each person. Some do better with, some do better without.....you have to listen to your body.
thanks for everyone reponses. i'm also blood type O which is supposed to eat meat. i hate meat, it grosses me out but im gonna try and see- maybe i wnot feel exhausted all the time.
thanks
I feel for you. I haven't eaten meat ever in my life, but now that I can't eat SO many things and I am so sick of the stuff I do eat after two years, I have seriously considered it. I just wouldn't have a clue how to cook it. Plus, I am scared my body wouldn't know what to do with it. Beans don't seem to agree with me very well and that is what I have been eating alot of the past two years. Goodluck trying it and let us know how it goes.
Monica
What kinds of bean and/or bean products have you tried?
My middle daughter didn't eat meat for probably 10 years. She wasn't a strict vegetarian, but simply didn't eat meat. Not too long after she was diagnosed, she began to eat it again, fearing she couldn't get the protein she needed. It didn't take her long to begin saying, "Man... I missed this stuff!!"
I was a pretty lax vegetarian for a couple of years.... my girlfriend was so I only ate meat viviting parents etc.
I had a friend that was vegetarian strictly for 7....
I think if you think its disgusting its going to sit badly... regardless...
As an example I always haten fish, especially fishy-fish (if that makes any sense) but after diagnosis I ended up eating sushi...
First few times I really gagged... it was a struggle to just keep it down and after it felt like lead...
I'd say the main thing is quality meat/fish in small amounts... better a little organic beef than a burger or steak of supermarket meat?
Overall I'd say why not just gradually introduce it as a subsistute in your normal veggie diet...
A little in a stir-fry instead of a steak .... some chicken in a fajita with LOTS of vegetables. etc. ??
We require amazingly little meat to get our daily dose... of proteins... so I don't think either the standard meat 3 times a day or strict vegan is healthy .. rather sometihng inbetween in moderation...
Personally now I tend to eat meat once a day... sometimes a huge steak but sometimes just a bit of chicken in a risotto or something... So instead of making meat meals make meals with some meat???
For me, I buy organic free-range chicken and my conscious feels better about it. First, if you can afford it, organic tastes really great. Second, at least I know they had a quality life before they went to market. I only buy one or two chickens a month. This gives us three meals of chicken. Then I make stock/soup with the leftover carcasses. I also eat fish and shellfish.
I tried beef after not eating it for many years and I didn't like the taste anymore. Even though I like pork, I just can't bring myself to eat it anymore.
Start slowly! Your body needs to gear up to produce the proper enzymes to digest the meat. Might take a couple of weeks to adapt.
I was once vegetarian, had horrible problems with blood sugar. Would probably be diabetic by now if I'd kept it up. I'm finding the Paleo diet is doing me a lot of good.
I ate red meat when my boyfriend said, "Baby, there's nothing on this menu you can have!"I ate steak strips on a salad. (It was late at night and I hadn't eaten all day, so a salad wasn't going to cut it.)My stomach hurt.
And since then, I've eaten it once or twice a week with NO problems.
I only eat good quality steak and good quality ground beef, and pork ribs.
It was weird cooking it, to be honest.
btw-- b4 dx, when iron was too low to give blood- I was perplexed since I ate so many dark green veggies, and do you know what the blood bank people tell you to eat to raise iron? CREAM of WHEAT!! It has TONS more iron per gram than any meat or veggie!! I ate it, was so sick(didn't know about celiac yet), but my iron skyrocketed in just a few weeks!
so i had a few pieces of chicken last night- just two bites really was all i could handle mentally. i didnt get any weird stomach aches so thats good. i guess ill slowly just increase it to three bites and then four bites- it tastes so weird!!
Glad at least it didn't make you feel sick
I went about 10 years only eating chicken or turkey occasionally. No red meats at all--I was prettty strict with it. When I tried steak for the first time after that, it tasted odd--very strong and the texture took some getting used to again.
I'm glad I went back to eating meat because since I've been gluten-free, I can't tolerate plant proteins at all.
I think your plan is a good one--go slowly and carefully to see how different things sit.
I just started eating meat again after five years of being veggie. I find that meat sits well in my stomach. I never feel sick after eating it. Veggies and grains do not always sit well, I think because they're harder for the body to digest. It's frustrating because I want to not eat meat, but I know it won't make me sick and on days when my stomach is already upset, I don't want to eat a bunch of veggies and make it worse. I do buy free range/hormone free.
Oh, the one meat that doesn't sit well is beef. That always seems to upset the stomach so I don't eat it. Chicken, turkey, fish, etc seem to be ok.
Groan...I'm dealing with this right now. I've been a vegetarian for 30 years, but with my current problems, I am running out of foods to eat. Several of my friends have been suggesting that I should start eating meat again, but I just can't imagine it. I'm not a radical vegetarian by any stretch (one of my friends is a deer hunter), but when I visualize eating meat again, I just picture myself throwing up all over the place. My vegetarianism is real tied into my identity, plus I have a real aversion to meat. I am going to try eggs this weekend, though. Maybe that will be enough.
I credit eating meat again for helping me figure out my Celiac!
I had been vegan/vegetarian/pescatarian (in that order) for 12 years, and been having celiac symptoms for about as long. Last September, while in England, I fell off the wagon when a favorite aunt made a favorite child hood meat dish. Loved it.
Starting eating meat again, a few weeks or a month after returning, went on the South Beach diet to lose weight, something I'd never consider before because I thought it would be too hard as a vegetarian. Lot's of things started feeling better. One thing leads to another, and I figure out the Celiac and get diagnosed.
My wife likes to joke about the 3 weeks she's known me where I could order anything on the menu.
What's so funny is how I remember eating vegetarian things that were meant to taste like meat. You'd think it'd be just a quick hop back to real meat...