Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Catholics: Avoiding Cc For Communion


NicoleAJ

Recommended Posts

NicoleAJ Enthusiast

I'm getting married next March in a Catholic church in Miami. For the last three years I have simply avoided taking communion, but for my wedding, I would like to receive communion. I've found the site for the Benedictine Sisters' low gluten host, and I was wondering, from those of you who have used it, how you avoid cc with your alternative host. I imagine there is a type of vessel approved for holding the host during the mass, so I was wondering where you might find one. I know similar issues have come up here in the past, but so often the topics turn to politics, and it is difficult to scan through to find the information. I really hope not to discuss the reasons why Canon law requires wheat, but I'd just like some info from fellow Catholics who use the low gluten hosts.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



pnltbox27 Contributor

at my church they keep the low gluten host in the freezer and when i get to church i tell the father or deacon im here and they get one and put it on a separate tray, plus i usally try to sit in the first few rows as to get mine out of the way quicker. i have had no issues so far... good luck on your wedding

gfgypsyqueen Enthusiast

I know I have seen eucharist holders or containers for sale in the past. I thought ener-G or some company made gluten-free hosts and sold a container so the priest never actually touches it. Google Eucharist container? Or call the local religious store and ask them to special order one for you. I know they exist, but I can't remember where I saw it.

Congrats on the wedding!

hez Enthusiast

I would think that since this is your wedding it would be fairly easy for the priest to handle this. You and your soon to be husband should be the first to receive communion. You might want to talk to the alter guild about providing a clean vessel and avoid the purchase of one. Congradulations!

Hez

zarfkitty Explorer

I bought my own pyx (wafer container) at a Christian Bookstore. It's just the right size to hold wafers snugly... mine holds 9 wafers but I only put one at a time in it. My Pastor actually communes me out of the pyx, turning the container over into my hand so that he never actually touches the wafer. The pyx is an appropriate vessel for holding the host (in your purse or on the altar).

HTH!

p.s. google or ebay "pyx" for lots of choices in lots of price levels. I paid $7 for mine but they can get really fancy.

CarlaB Enthusiast

Having your own pyx is a great idea!

On regular Sundays, I just receive the chalice. I play flute in the choir and communion is distributed to the choir first. It's no problem for me to receive the chalice before it's contaminated.

When we visit another church, I just sit up front.

You cannot receive from the priest's chalice because there is a piece of the Host floating in it.

NicoleAJ Enthusiast

Thank you all for your responses. The pyx sounds like a great solution. I know that I'll be receiving communion first, but I would like to avoid any potential problems. I'm not getting married in my own parish but rather in the church I attended in college (since my parents still live in Miami and are doing much of the planning), so the easier I can make it on the pastor, the better. I really appreciate all of the suggestions.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



zansu Rookie

depending on the logistics of how the priest serves, maybe the whole wedding party can do the low gluten then the priest can switch to the regular. A little more money, a lot more safety and less confusion.

debmidge Rising Star
depending on the logistics of how the priest serves, maybe the whole wedding party can do the low gluten then the priest can switch to the regular. A little more money, a lot more safety and less confusion.

that's an excellent suggestion for this situation - and no one at ceremony would ever know and it would keep the ceremony smooth flowing as no "changing" of anything. Good work!

michelleL Apprentice
I know I have seen eucharist holders or containers for sale in the past. I thought ener-G or some company made gluten-free hosts and sold a container so the priest never actually touches it. Google Eucharist container? Or call the local religious store and ask them to special order one for you. I know they exist, but I can't remember where I saw it.

Congrats on the wedding!

Ener-G does do gluten-free wafers - I saw a box of them at my local gluten=free store...

CarlaB Enthusiast
Ener-G does do gluten-free wafers - I saw a box of them at my local gluten=free store...

That is a great idea about the whole wedding party receiving them. I'm sure you're going to have to buy more than one anyway. ;):P

The Ener-G are fine, but NOT for the Catholic Church. There is only one approved for Catholic Mass, and it's low-gluten. For other denominations, that's a good suggestion.

chatycady Explorer

Will that low gluten wafer make you sick? I thought any amount of gluten caused the autoimmune response?

NicoleAJ Enthusiast

Chatycady,

From what I've read, because the low gluten wafer contains only .01% gluten, it is safe. Apparently, it would take 270 wafers in one day to trigger an autoimmune response. That being said, I'm going to order them and test them out just to doublecheck that I tolerate them, but I imagine I will.

SunnyDyRain Enthusiast
Chatycady,

From what I've read, because the low gluten wafer contains only .01% gluten, it is safe. Apparently, it would take 270 wafers in one day to trigger an autoimmune response. That being said, I'm going to order them and test them out just to doublecheck that I tolerate them, but I imagine I will.

I was going to suggest something like that, but I didn't know catholic church policy on eating the wafer thingy without the ceremony. I know catholics are strict and sometimes have odd rules. Last thing you want is to get sick on your wedding night!

I was born methodist, we let it all fly, my mother's minister is celiac also, and she does communion for her self first with a gluten free cookie, then breaks the bread for the rest of the congeration. My mom often feels jealous that she gets a cookie and all she is stuck with is plain white bread.

:)

NicoleAJ Enthusiast

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but the unconsecrated host is just a food product and can be eaten, but once it has become the body of Christ, that is when there are specific rules for how it can be consumed. I believe at the practice for my first communion that they gave us an unconsecrated host so that we wouldn't make a face during the ceremony when we realized its funny texture.

CarlaB Enthusiast

Yup, the unconsecrated Host is just bread.

  • 1 year later...
Mr. Ed Newbie

I was recently diagnosed with Celiac Disease. I've read where Catholics with the disease cannot receive communion because the wafer is made of wheat (gluten). If, as we were taught, the wafer is transformed into Christ's body, it should no longer contain wheat. So what's the problem?

Ed Rothacker

Columbus, OH

bbuster Explorer
Chatycady,

From what I've read, because the low gluten wafer contains only .01% gluten, it is safe. Apparently, it would take 270 wafers in one day to trigger an autoimmune response. That being said, I'm going to order them and test them out just to doublecheck that I tolerate them, but I imagine I will.

The .01% is a maximum potential gluten content. It is likely well below that.

Also, they recently made them a little smaller than before. It's smaller in diameter than a normal host, and seems to be quite a bit lighter in weight.

My son has received these as much as 3 times per week and continues to have negative bloodwork and no signs of reaction.

(We also use a pyx)

knitaddict Apprentice

Oh no! I never even THOUGHT about Communion! Ugh--something ELSE to worry about! I don't suppose it would suffice if I just took the blood of Christ, would it?? Ugh---why does gluten have to be in EVERYTHING?!?!?! :angry:

TrillumHunter Enthusiast
Oh no! I never even THOUGHT about Communion! Ugh--something ELSE to worry about! I don't suppose it would suffice if I just took the blood of Christ, would it?? Ugh---why does gluten have to be in EVERYTHING?!?!?! :angry:

It is absolutely fine and FULL COMMUNION to receive only the Precious Blood. Avoid the largest chalice that the priest uses during the Consecration as it has a small bit of the Precious Body in it.

My whole family does this every week.

leadmeastray88 Contributor

I had a discussion with my priest about this, and he says that it is FULL COMMUNION to take only the wine and not the bread. We have several Celiacs in our parish so I don't feel self conscious bowing to the communion distributor before taking the wine. I felt awkward the first time though.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,856
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Sonya Haskin
    Newest Member
    Sonya Haskin
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Jillian83
      He is. Which makes everything even more difficult. I’m not a believer in “staying for the kids” but I have nowhere to go and it’s not just me, it’s me plus my babies. We live in a beautiful place, lots of land in the country and me and the kids love the place we’ve called home for their entire lives. But Im seeing that he’ll never change, that my kids deserve a happy healthy Momma, and that staying in this as is will be the early death of me. Then I look at the scars covering my entire body…this disease and the chronic stress I’ve been enduring for years that tell me I’m no longer beautiful and no one will ever look at me with interest again. I try self care, try to give myself grace so I can just start loving myself enough to gain strength but the slightest sparkle in my eye and skip in my step attracts his wrath and it all comes crashing ten fold. Life is just absolutely railing me from every single direction leaving me wanting to wave that white flag bc I don’t feel like there’s much hope no matter what happens. 
    • trents
    • Jillian83
      Hi, I was recently diagnosed with Celiac and dermatitis herpetiformis after years of suffering without answers. I lost my mind. I lost my job. I lost so much time. I lost Me. Conventional doctors are opulent come near me and the one who did sat across the room, misdiagnosed me, pumped me full of steroids which collapsed my entire hip for 6 months. So without answers I began my holistic journey. Fast forward a couple of years and still struggling with a mysterious whole body itchy, crawling “skin hell”, perfect teeth now deteriorating, thick hair now thinning rapidly and no more than a day or 2 at most relief….An acquaintance opened up a functional medicine practice. Cash only, I found a way. Within a month tests clearly showing my off the charts gluten allergy/sensitivity as well as the depletion of vital nutrients due to leaky gut and intestinal damage. dermatitis herpetiformis was more than likely what I was experiencing with my skin. I was happy. I thought this is easy, eat healthy Whole Foods, follow the diet restrictions and I finally get to heal and feel confident and like myself again very soon! 😔 Supplements are very pricey but I got them and began my healing. Which leads to the other major issue: not working, stay at home Mom of young kids, entirely financially dependent on my man of 7 plus years. He’s never been supportive of anything I’ve ever done or been thru. He controls everything. I’m not given much money ever at a time and when he does leave money it’s only enough to possibly get gas. His excuse is that I’ll spend it on other things. So my “allowance” is inconsistent and has conditions. He withholds money from me as punishment for anything he wants. Since being diagnosed, he’s gained a new control tactic to use as punishment. He now is in control of when I get to eat. He asked for proof of my diagnosis and diet bc he said I made it up just to be able to eat expensive organic foods. Then after I sent him my file from my doctor he then said she wasn’t a real doctor. 😡. I go days upon days starving, sometimes breaking down and eating things I shouldn’t bc I’m so sick then I pay horribly while he gets annoyed and angry bc I’m not keeping up with all the duties I’m supposed to be doing. His abuse turns full on when I’m down and it’s in these desperate times when I need his support and care the most that I’m punished with silence, being starved, ignored, belittled. He will create more of a mess just bc I’m unable to get up and clean so that when I am better, I’m so overwhelmed with chores to catch up that the stress causes me to go right back into a flare from hell and the cycle repeats. I’m punished for being sick. I’m belittled for starving and asking for healthy clean water. I’m purposely left out of his life. He won’t even tell me he’s going to the grocery or to get dinner bc he doesn’t want me to ask him for anything. I have no one. I have nothing. Im not better. My supplements ran out and I desperately need Vitamin D3 and a methylated B complex at the very minimal just to function….he stares at me blankly…no, a slight smirk, no words. He’s happiest when im miserable and I am miserable.  this is so long and im condensing as much as I can but this situation is so complicated and disgusting. And it’s currently my life. The “IT” girl, the healthy, beautiful, perfect skin, perfect teeth, thick and curly locks for days, creative and talented IT girl….now I won’t even leave this house bc Im ashamed of what this has dont to my body, my skin. Im disgusted. The stress is keeping me from healing and I think he knows that and that’s why he continues to keep me in that state. He doesn’t want me confident or successful. He doesn’t want me healed and healthy bc then how would he put the blame of all his problems on me? This journey has been hell and I’ve been in Hell before. I’ve been killed by an ex, I’ve been raped, robbed, held hostage, abused beyond nightmares but the cruelty I’ve experienced from him bc of this disease is the coldest I’ve ever experienced. I’ve wanted to give up. Starving and in tears, desperate…I found a local food pantry in our small town so I reached out just saying I had Celiac and was on hard times. This woman is blessing me daily with prepared gluten free meals, donations, educational info, people who know this disease and how they manage life and the blessings just keep coming. But it’s overwhelming and I feel like I don’t deserve it at all. He just glared and I know he’s going to sabotage it somehow. I don’t even know what to do anymore. I’m so broken and just want peace and healing. 
    • cristiana
      @Colleen H   I am just curious,  when you were tested for coeliac disease, did the doctors find out if you had any deficiencies? Sometimes muscle pain can be caused by certain deficiencies, for example, magnesium, vitamin D, calcium, and potassium.   Might be worth looking into having some more tests.  Pins and needles can be neuropathy, again caused by deficiencies, such as iron and B12,  which can be reversed if these deficiencies are addressed. In the UK where I live we are usually only tested for iron, B12 and vitamin D deficiencies at diagnosis.   I was very iron anemic and supplementation made a big difference.  B12 was low normal, but in other countries the UK's low normal would be considered a deficiency.  My vitamin D was low normal, and I've been supplementing ever since (when I remember to take it!) My pins and needles definitely started to improve when my known deficiencies were addressed.  My nutritionist also gave me a broad spectrum supplement which really helped, because I suspect I wasn't just deficient in what I mention above but in many other vitamins and minerals.  But a word of warning, don't take iron unless blood tests reveal you actually need it, and if you are taking it your levels must be regularly monitored because too much can make you ill.  (And if you are currently taking iron, that might actually be making your stomach sore - it did mine, so my GP changed my iron supplementation to a gentler form, ferrous gluconate). Lastly, have you been trying to take anything to lessen the pain in your gut?  I get a sore stomach periodically, usually when I've had too much rich food, or when I have had to take an aspirin or certain antibiotics, or after glutening.  When this happens, I take for just a few days a small daily dose of OTC omeprazole.  I also follow a reflux or gastritis diet. There are lots online but the common denominators to these diets is you need to cut out caffeine, alcohol, rich, spicy, acidic food etc and eat small regularly spaced meals.   When I get a sore stomach, I also find it helpful to drink lots of water.  I also find hot water with a few slices of ginger very soothing to sip, or camomile tea.  A wedge pillow at night is good for reflux. Also,  best not to eat a meal 2-3 hours before going to bed. If the stomach pain is getting worse, though, it would be wise to see the doctor again. I hope some of this helps. Cristiana    
    • Me,Sue
      I was diagnosed with coeliac disease a couple of years ago [ish]. I love my food and a variety of food, so it's been hard, as it is with everyone. I try and ensure everything I eat doesn't contain gluten, but occasionally I think something must have got through that has gluten in. Mainly I know because I have to dash to the loo, but recently I have noticed that I feel nauseous after possibly being glutened. I think the thing that I have got better at is knowing what to do when I feel wiped out after a gluten 'episode'. I drink loads of water, and have just started drinking peppermint tea. I also have rehydration powders to drink. I don't feel like eating much, but eventually feel like I need to eat. Gluten free flapjacks, or gluten free cereal, or a small gluten free kids meal are my go to. I am retired, so luckily I can rest, sometimes even going to bed when nothing else works. So I feel that I am getting better at knowing how to try and get back on track. I am also trying to stick to a simpler menu and eat mostly at home so that I can be more confident about what I am eating. THANKS TO THOSE WHO REPLIED ABOUT THE NAUSEA .
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.