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Having Problems Eating First Thing In The Morning


Karwei5

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Karwei5 Apprentice

My son was diagnosed a year and half ago.

We have had our ups and downs with keeping his food gluten free.

He has Down syndrome and has to rely on others to read labels (he is 20 years old now)

Basically it is me(mom) Dad and his teacher that are responsible for his food.

This spring his Dad gave him beef sticks with gluten and he was getting rice crispies at school.

Got that all straightened out.

Our problem is that he keep throwing up his breakfast. It is only when he has to get up early and off to school

If he eats the same foods later in the morning or in the day he is ok.

I got him up for an activity this am had to be there at 8 am and the got sick on his breakfast.

He was doing well the last several weeks after being out of school

The last few months of school we were having problems with this.

Can there actually be a specific problem with eating too early in the morning?

He gets pain and throws up but only about 1/3 of what he ate.

This is getting very frustrating for both of us.

ALSO do you see a dietitian

is it really worth the time.

I saw a local one 1 time and didn't learn much

If I drove a lot farther I could see a better one.

Is it worth my time and money

thanks ,

Karol


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Ursa Major Collaborator

What does he eat for breakfast? It could be something he is sensitive to on an empty stomach, or maybe his digestive system won't function before a certain time.

If I would eat a banana first thing in the morning, I would get awful stomach cramps. But if I eat one once in a while in the afternoon, I am fine.

I find I can't really eat much early in the morning, I prefer eating breakfast after 9:00 AM.

Karwei5 Apprentice

He is eating eggs over easy bagel cream cheese

I thought it was the eggs of the amount of caffeine or greasy he drinks but if he eats later he is ok

It is a bit of problem with him having to get to school on time

I hate to give him cereal for breakfast as that won't stick with you long and he would be hungry again before lunch

He likes if I make him a "skillet"

Fried potatoes beacon or sausage cheese green pepper and eggs on top.

If he eats later he is ok.

I am wondering what to do about school and long term with not eating earlier in the am.

Karol

KProc Newbie

I have a really helpful dietician who gave me the same advice she gives people with morning sickness.

Eat a few salty crackers or pretzels (gluten-free of course) and drink a few sips of water while still in bed. Then lie back down for about 10 minutes.

You just have to do it before you get out of bed in the morning.

The mornings I feel really nauseous it seems to help a little and I have more ability to eat breakfast.

Maybe it will help out.....

elonwy Enthusiast

I could never eat in the mornings as a kid, well into my early twenties. Would be totally naseous, but sometimes hungry, and my body would try to reject breakfast. Would school let him have a break for a snack earlier? Thats probably a long shot, but my mom had the teacher have a snack for me off to the side during a break or something where the other kids weren't around so I wouldn't crash before lunch. Also, eggs make me hurl no matter what, I cannot eat them ever, and peppers give me a stomach ache. Maybe its something in what he's eating? You could make him a skillet with tofu, or experiment with diff ingredients to see if its something specific.

I saw a dietitian once and it was a complete waste of my time, she just printed me some paged off this web site. You might want to food diary him for a while though when your feeding him breakfast, with times a such, to find the right equation for breakfast.

kbtoyssni Contributor

I used to have this problem. I felt awful in the mornings, my stomach would always be upset, I'd throw up a lot. This lasted about a year and a half into me being gluten-free. And now I'm fine. Maybe it was just the healing process - I wasn't quite healed until a year and a half in. I would often get up, get ready, lie back down for 10-20 minutes, then go to work. I'd eat applesauce and sprite for the first two hours of the day with pepto.

Someone mentioned once that maybe it's low blood sugar and I should eat something before bed. I didn't ever change anything, but it's something you could try.

elonwy Enthusiast

I also forgot to mention that probiotics might be worth a try. I know that that has helped settle my residual issues after going gluten-free.


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Lockheed Apprentice

Yeah.. you know I don't know if that's a disorder or something but I can't eat solids for two hours after I've been awake. I don't throw up (usually) but it makes my stomach hurt in the worst possible way. I tend to stick to things like juice and yogurts for breakfast. It seems like more liquid foods do okay and fruits do okay. But everything else is ick! Good luck to you and your son!

LuvMoosic4life Collaborator

if I had eggs, a bagel and cream cheese first thing in the morning or a skillet I would puke too! (but thats just e) The only thing that doesnt bother me first thing in morning is creamy brown rice cereal, "bob's red mill" makes it. you can add butter and sweetner to it- I think it tastes great. You can even use it as a side for other meals, add whatever you want.

I usually cant eat anything heavy until late morning or afternoon

missy'smom Collaborator

Before gluten-free I'd have to be up for a few hrs. and have BM's pass before being able to eat. Never vomited but felt a little nauseaous. Now that I've been gluten-free for a little under 2 yrs., I still can't eat a full breakfast right away. I wait a bit. I've realized recently that my system really is like a fussy two year old and wants meals at certain times and rejects it at others. :D Chamommile tea was a real help before gluten-free and still occasionally. It is safe to give children and really calms the stomach and GI tract. I had a cup every morning before eating anything and then waited a little. The warmth of it helps too.

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