Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Make Your Voice Heard


Ridgewalker

Recommended Posts

Ridgewalker Contributor

The following product is supposedly meant for non-Celiac gluten intolerants. It should not be used as a treatment for Celiac Disease, and (considering the long-term health effects of even small amounts of gluten) to do so could be dangerous. The language on the webpage for this product is confusing and misleading, and I believe it needs to be changed.

Take a look for yourself, Open Original Shared Link

Although Enzymedica states that GlutenEase "is not formulated to prevent celiac symptoms," the advertisements go on to describe Celiac Disease as a "Cause of Gluten Intolerance." Look at the second paragraph under that heading. It states:

"Gluten exhibits a unique amino acid sequence which creates inflammation and a flattening of the villi of our intestinal tract. The villi provide the intestine with the ability to absorb nutrients from the foods we eat, thus damaged villi can lead to responses such as malabsorption, nutrient deficiencies or other digestive disorders."

Since damaged, flattened, or blunted villi are considered to be a defining characteristic of Celiac Disease- not non-Celiac gluten intolerance- I feel that the inclusion of this paragraph is misleading, and frankly down-right bizarre, for a product that is supposedly not aimed at Celiacs.

If this doesn't bother you, ok.

If you think this needs to be changed, click Open Original Shared Link to tell Enzymedica about it.

One last note: This thread is not intended to further inflame an already hot topic. While everyone is free to post whatever they like, this thread is also not intended to be a place of major debate. It's simply an opportunity to make your voice heard, and a place to post any responses you get from this company, if you wish.

Thanks for your time.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Ridgewalker Contributor

Well! It may not be necessary to bombard them with messages after all. I've heard back from them, and it looks like they're going to change the webpage. After my comment that I sent from the above link, this man, Dave Barton, wrote me back. His first response mainly consisted of a long excerpt from a book on Autism.

So I wrote this back:

Mr. Barton

Thanks for your response.

I actually find the relationship between Autism and gluten very exciting, and expect to see huge strides being made now and in the future. It doesn't, however, really have much to do with my current concerns.

You noted that both non-Celiac, and Celiac sufferers have used the product, with some finding relief. I'll be the first one to jump up and say, "It's any individual's prerogative to try any supplement they want." But I do believe that it's a company's responsibility to be accurate and up-front about their products. So I'll be specific on the problem(s) I'm seeing.

This is a section from the webpage Open Original Shared Link

" Cause of Gluten Intolerance

For many individuals who consume wheat or dairy products, the

particular proteins gluten and/or casein are difficult to digest and

can lead to intestinal inflammation, malabsorption and a number of

disorders including Leaky Gut or other syndromes.

Gluten exhibits a unique amino acid sequence which creates

inflammation and a flattening of the villi of our intestinal tract.

The villi provide the intestine with the ability to absorb nutrients

from the foods we eat, thus damaged villi can lead to responses such

as malabsorption, nutrient deficiencies or other digestive disorders."

The first paragraph is perfectly true, and I don't have any issue with it. The second paragraph is another story. Gluten does not do that to just anyone, or even just anyone with gluten intolerance. The only way that paragraph is true, is if by "our intestinal tract," you mean Celiacs' intestinal tracts.

In other words, if you are gluten intolerant and you have flattened villi or damaged villi, then you have Celiac Disease. In fact, you will be officially diagnosed with Celiac if you have damaged/flattened/blunted villi, even if you're asymptomatic.

Discovering damaged or flattened villi via small-intestine biopsy is currently THE defining, gold-standard method of diagnosing Celiac Disease... NOT non-Celiac gluten intolerance.

Why does this bother me so much? Because the whole point of GlutenEase makes it easier for people to be more relaxed about their diet. They don't have to worry so much about eating a risky food, or getting

cross-contamination at a restaurant.

For a Celiac, relaxed vigilance can be deadly. There is absolutely no evidence that GlutenEase prevents or reduces an autoimmune response in a Celiac (which is why you guys have to put the statement, "GlutenEase

is not formulated to prevent celiac symptoms" on your webpage.)

That autoimmune response causes damaged villi in the small intestine, malabsorption, and so many terrible long-term problems, such as: infertility, osteoporosis, miscarriage, and cancer.

These awful health problems (and even DEATH) are well-worth being abundantly clear about who GlutenEase is meant for.

Currently, Enzymedica is not being nearly clear enough.

End of my email.

Mr. Barton's Response:

Dear Ms. -------,

I absolutely see your point. I have never read the paragraph in the context you're providing and can now see how it may cause confusion. Thank you for identifying the specific point. I will take this to our website

administrator and tech team to make the appropriate changes as soon as possible. The earliest I can do this is on Monday Aug 4th. We are launching a new website so this change will be imperative to the next site.

Please let me assure you that in no way did we want to imply a reference to Celiac disease and honestly from my own personal perspective being one of the team members that tried to write the article in an informed neutral way it was not our intention to mislead anyone. The key to seeing your point was the your patience in identifying and clearly explaining your point of view and I am in agreement with it and will do all I can to change it as soon as possible.

May I ask, would you like to make some suggestions on appropriate wording for the correction of this website and our upcoming new one?

Sincerely,

Dave Barton

dave@enzymedica.com

888-918-1118

This is a fantastic response, and an opportunity!!!

I plan on writing him back later this weekend. Any suggestions are welcome- you can either post them here, and I'll include them, or you can send them yourself!

tom Contributor

You go, girl!!!!!!!

:) :) :) :)

elye Community Regular

Way to go, Sarah! :):)

Lisa Mentor

WAY TO GO SARAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This just goes to show the power of passion. The Golden Yeti Award goes to you. ;)

...and don't forget to take them up on their offer.

dksart Apprentice

Wow! Actual concern from a major company. Amazing.

As stated above, you go girl!

jerseyangel Proficient

Sarah--that's fantastic!!!! Way to go!! :D:D

What a great response :)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Judyin Philly Enthusiast

Sarah---------fantastic !!!!!!!!!!

what a responce.

Judy

Ridgewalker Contributor
The Golden Yeti Award goes to you. ;)

WOOHOO!!! :lol:

Thanks everybody. I'm going to write him back Sunday evening, to give people a chance to post any suggestions here. (And of course, everybody's free to write to them yourselves.)

psawyer Proficient

Wonderful!

Sarah, you have made a difference today. Be proud of yourself.

Hummingbird4 Explorer

Your letter to them was fabulous, and I am also impressed with their reply! Good for you! :)

DingoGirl Enthusiast
This just goes to show the power of passion. The Golden Yeti Award goes to you. ;)

:lol: Indeed it does.

Wonderful!

Sarah, you have made a difference today. Be proud of yourself.

Yeah, what he said!!!!!!!!!

:)

good work, Sarah!

sickchick Community Regular

DAMM GIRL!!! B)

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Sarah,

I have to say it. :) This response from Enzymedica is probably one of the best I've seen from *any* company. There is concern and sincerity in his reply....and you didnt wait days for it to come.

Wow! Actual concern from a major company. Amazing.

Yes it is. :)

Good Job Sarah!! :D

Jestgar Rising Star

Way t'kick butt, Babe!!!

MyMississippi Enthusiast

Jestgar,

Is that a picture of your cat ?? Is he missing??? Looks just like the cat that Foxx news is showing as lost and they are looking for his owner. He weighs 44 lbs. ! ! ! ! :o

gfpaperdoll Rookie

Good for you!!!!! B)B)

Jestgar Rising Star
Jestgar,

Is that a picture of your cat ?? Is he missing??? Looks just like the cat that Foxx news is showing as lost and they are looking for his owner. He weighs 44 lbs. ! ! ! ! :o

:)

I saw him on the news too, so I thought I'd give him a little more face time. I think I heard that they've found his owner though...

Tewa Newbie

HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's my baby!!!!!!!!

And OHG - I haven't seen that pic in a while and Holy Cow! You look like me - only lot's better

and you know...way younger.

Anyway - most excellent job. Set them straight ... then send them a bill.

Ridgewalker Contributor
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's my baby!!!!!!!!

And OHG - I haven't seen that pic in a while and Holy Cow! You look like me - only lot's better

and you know...way younger.

Anyway - most excellent job. Set them straight ... then send them a bill.

:lol: Hi, Mom. :D

Rachel--24 Collaborator
:lol: Hi, Mom. :D

:lol:

How cute Sarah. :)

Hi Sarah's mom!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Mari replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      21

      My only proof

    2. - Jmartes71 replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      21

      My only proof

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      44

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    4. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      21

      My only proof


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,545
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    PatientOne
    Newest Member
    PatientOne
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):




  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Mari
      I think, after reading this, that you areso traumatized by not being able yo understand what your medical advisors have been  what medical conditions are that you would like to find a group of people who also feel traumatized who would agree with you and also support you. You are on a crusade much as the way the US Cabinet  official, the Health Director of our nation is in trying to change what he considers outdated and incorrect health advisories. He does not have the education, background or experience to be in the position he occupies and is not making beneficial decisions. That man suffered a terrible trauma early in his life when his father was assonated. We see now how he developed and worked himself into a powerful position.  Unless you are willing to take some advice or  are willing to use a few of the known methods of starting on a path to better health then not many of us on this Celiac Forum will be able to join you in a continuing series of complaints about medical advisors.    I am almost 90 years old. I am strictly gluten free. I use 2 herbs to help me stay as clear minded as possible. You are not wrong in complaining about medical practitioners. You might be more effective with a clearer mind, less anger and a more comfortable life if you would just try some of the suggestions offered by our fellow celiac volunteers.  
    • Jmartes71
      Thus has got to STOP , medical bit believing us! I literally went through 31 years thinking it was just a food allergy as its downplayed by medical if THEY weren't the ones who diagnosed us! Im positive for HLA-DQ2 which is first celiac patient per Iran and Turkey. Here in the States especially in Cali its why do you feel that way? Why do you think your celiac? Your not eating gluten so its something else.Medical caused me depression. I thought I was safe with my former pcp for 25 years considering i thought everything I went through and going through will be available when I get fired again for health. Health not write-ups my health always come back when you're better.Im not and being tossed away at no fault to my own other than shitty genes.I was denied disability because person said he didn't know how to classify me! I said Im celiac, i have ibs, hernia, sciatica, high blood pressure, in constant pain have skin and eye issues and menopause intensified everything. With that my celiac nightmare began to reprove my disregarded disease to a bunch of clowns who think they are my careteam when they said I didn't have...I feel Im still breathing so I can fight this so no body else has to deal with this nightmare. Starting over with " new care team" and waisting more time on why I think I am when diagnosed in 1994 before food eliminated from my diet. P.s everything i went through I did write to medical board, so pretty sure I will continue to have a hard time.
    • knitty kitty
      @Scatterbrain, Thiamine Vitamin B1 and amino acid Taurine work together.  Our bodies can make Taurine from meats consumed.  Our bodies cannot make Thiamine and must consume thiamine from food.  Meat is the best source of B vitamins like Thiamine.   Vegetarians may not make sufficient taurine since they don't eat meat sources of taurine.  Seaweed is the best vegetarian source of taurine. Vegetarians may not consume sufficient Thiamine since few veggies are good sources.  Whole grains, legumes, and nuts and seeds contain thiamine.  Many of these sources can be hard to digest and absorb for people with Celiac disease.   You may find taking the forms of thiamine called Benfotiamine or TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) and a B Complex will give the benefits you're looking for better than taurine alone.  
    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, I went to Doterra's site and had a look around.  The Doterra TerraZyme supplement really jumped out at me.  Since we, as Celiacs, often have digestive problems, I looked at the ingredients.  The majority of the enzymes in this supplement are made using black mold, Aspergillus!  Other enzymes are made by yeast Saccharomyces!  Considering the fact that Celiac often have permeable intestines (leaky gut syndrome), I would be very hesitant to take a product like this.  Although there may not be live black mold or yeast in the product, the enzymes may still cause an immune system response which would definitely cause inflammation throughout the body.   Skin, eyes, and intestines are all made from the same basic type of cells.  Your skin on the outside and eyes can reflect how irritated the intestines are on the inside.  Our skin, eyes, and intestines all need the same vitamins and nutrients to be healthy:  Vitamin A, Niacin B3 and Tryptophan, Riboflavin B2, Biotin B7, Vitamin C, and Omega Threes.  Remember that the eight B vitamins work together.  Just taking high doses of just one, vitamin like B12, can cause a deficiency in the others.  Taking high doses of B12 can mask a Folate B9 deficiency.  If you take B12, please take a B Complex, too.  Thiamine B1 can be taken in high doses safely without toxicity.  Thiamine is needed by itself to produce energy so every cell in the body can function, but Thiamine also works with the other B vitamins to make life sustaining enzymes and digestive enzymes.  Deficiencies in either Niacin, Vitamin C, or Thiamine can cause digestive problems resulting in Pellagra, Scurvy, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi.   If you change your diet, you will change your intestinal microbiome.  Following the Autoimmune Protocol Diet, a Paleo diet, will starve out SIBO bacteria.  Thiamine keeps bacteria in check so they don't get out of control as in SIBO.  Thiamine also keeps MOLDS and Yeasts from overgrowth.   Menopause symptoms and menstrual irregularities are symptomatic of low Vitamin D.   Doctors are not as knowledgeable about malnutrition as we need them to be.  A nutritionist or dietician would be more helpful.   Take control of your diet and nutrition.  Quit looking for a pill that's going to make you feel better overnight.  The Celiac journey is a marathon, not a sprint.   "Let food be your medicine, and let medicine be your food."
    • RUKen
      The Lindt (Lindor) dairy-free oat milk truffles are definitely gluten-free, and (last time I checked) so are the white chocolate truffles and the mint chocolate truffles. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.