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Gluten In Peppercorns?


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kwylee Apprentice

Just five weeks into my gluten free lifestyle and I am dedicated. I've read here that beef should not contain gluten so I am thinking it was the peppercorns that were cooked on it, because last night, within 10 minutes of eating london broil (fairly tenderized due to an hour long simmer a beef stock I have eaten w/no problem), I got that "feeling", like the room was starting a spin. I know that sensation very well, as I am lucky enough to experience a mini version of my worse symptom within 10 minutes of eating an offending food, so I know almost immediately.

This was the first time I've tried beef since I started feeling good a week ago. Before then, I was able to add chicken and even pork chop to my eating repertoire, so I didn't expect a problem with beef. But when I took the first bite, my husband confirmed that he had added some coursely ground peppercorns, thinking that would be OK. I went ahead and ingested about an ounce (always slow going when I try a new food - and usually only add one food at a time, but - oh, well!)

And this turned out to be a big event, because while I'll get dizzy immediately, it settles down until a number of hours later, usually when I am sleeping, that I get a more pronounced neuro reaction, and that's what happened overnight. My sweet hubby felt terrible and I had to reassure him this was not his fault, that I am in control of what I put in my mouth.

But now I am unsure, was it the beef? The peppercorns? And/or the fact that my system may still be healing although my stomach and intestines feel just fine, could I still be healing there and that is why I had trouble? I really want to eat beef in the future. Hope it is the latter. I can live my life without peppercorns!


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Just five weeks into my gluten free lifestyle and I am dedicated. I've read here that beef should not contain gluten so I am thinking it was the peppercorns that were cooked on it, because last night, within 10 minutes of eating london broil (fairly tenderized due to an hour long simmer a beef stock I have eaten w/no problem), I got that "feeling", like the room was starting a spin. I know that sensation very well, as I am lucky enough to experience a mini version of my worse symptom within 10 minutes of eating an offending food, so I know almost immediately.

This was the first time I've tried beef since I started feeling good a week ago. Before then, I was able to add chicken and even pork chop to my eating repertoire, so I didn't expect a problem with beef. But when I took the first bite, my husband confirmed that he had added some coursely ground peppercorns, thinking that would be OK. I went ahead and ingested about an ounce (always slow going when I try a new food - and usually only add one food at a time, but - oh, well!)

And this turned out to be a big event, because while I'll get dizzy immediately, it settles down until a number of hours later, usually when I am sleeping, that I get a more pronounced neuro reaction, and that's what happened overnight. My sweet hubby felt terrible and I had to reassure him this was not his fault, that I am in control of what I put in my mouth.

But now I am unsure, was it the beef? The peppercorns? And/or the fact that my system may still be healing although my stomach and intestines feel just fine, could I still be healing there and that is why I had trouble? I really want to eat beef in the future. Hope it is the latter. I can live my life without peppercorns!

I use peppercorns all the time in my gluten-free cooking. I don't think thats your problem, depending on the restuarant cross contamination is prolly your problem

gabby Enthusiast

I seem to remember a couple months back something about a recall on peppercorns. Can't remember the details exactly, but it should still be in the FDA Recall database...just go to this link and have a read through the recalls to see if anything comes up for you. Or do a search on their site for peppercorns. It is a good place to check regularly for recalls. When a food processor picks up on something going wrong...it gets posted on this website and may or may not make it to the newspapers.

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kwylee Apprentice

I use peppercorns all the time in my gluten-free cooking. I don't think thats your problem, depending on the restuarant cross contamination is prolly your problem

This meal was prepared at home. I only wish I could consider eating out after 5 weeks gluten-free/CF. Now it's becoming a bit of a mystery. Perhaps the brand I am ingested, it's an off brand (they don't have a website, I checked) and maybe there was some cross contamination, or maybe I just tried beef too soon. Errrrr, so frustrating, and now I'll feel a bit woozy all day at work. That's the worst.

poopedout Apprentice

Just five weeks into my gluten free lifestyle and I am dedicated. I've read here that beef should not contain gluten so I am thinking it was the peppercorns that were cooked on it, because last night, within 10 minutes of eating london broil (fairly tenderized due to an hour long simmer a beef stock I have eaten w/no problem), I got that "feeling", like the room was starting a spin. I know that sensation very well, as I am lucky enough to experience a mini version of my worse symptom within 10 minutes of eating an offending food, so I know almost immediately.

This was the first time I've tried beef since I started feeling good a week ago. Before then, I was able to add chicken and even pork chop to my eating repertoire, so I didn't expect a problem with beef. But when I took the first bite, my husband confirmed that he had added some coursely ground peppercorns, thinking that would be OK. I went ahead and ingested about an ounce (always slow going when I try a new food - and usually only add one food at a time, but - oh, well!)

And this turned out to be a big event, because while I'll get dizzy immediately, it settles down until a number of hours later, usually when I am sleeping, that I get a more pronounced neuro reaction, and that's what happened overnight. My sweet hubby felt terrible and I had to reassure him this was not his fault, that I am in control of what I put in my mouth.

But now I am unsure, was it the beef? The peppercorns? And/or the fact that my system may still be healing although my stomach and intestines feel just fine, could I still be healing there and that is why I had trouble? I really want to eat beef in the future. Hope it is the latter. I can live my life without peppercorns!

What about the beef stock? The tinned ones contain gluten.

GlutenFreeManna Rising Star

Was the pan you used to simmer the beef in one you have been cooking with without problems? If not, could it be cc from the pan? I use peppercorns all the time in my cooking and don't have a problem, but it's possible you are sensitive to them or to the beef. Another thought--how are your peppercorns stored? If you have had them for a while and used them before in cooking, could it be possible that they have been contaminated by a measuring spoon with flour on it? I've heard many people have to get rid of all their open spices because they have likely been contaminated with flour or bread crumbs.

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Either could be contaminated. It depends on how they were handled during processing and packaging.


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My father has a mold allergy, and he is sensitive to black pepper because of how it is made. Could this be your issue?

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I tested severely intolerant to beef through blood work. I haven't had beef for about five months. My doctor wants me to wait six months before trying it again so will give it a go in a month.

I cut down to eating just turnips, chicken, olive oil and sea salt. I then slowly added foods one at a time every few days. Once I got up to about fifty foods, I started eating everything except gluten, flax, beef, zucchini and eggs. So far the only foods that I seem to cause problems are venison and cucumbers. I tested moderately intolerant to both of those. I tested severely intolerant to lemons and they aren't causing any problems.

When I had my food intolerance tests done back in December, there were about 70 foods I was suppose to eliminate. I had a hard time giving up beef but now don't miss it at all. I suggest you give up both beef and peppercorns for a while and then give them a try.

kwylee Apprentice

I tested severely intolerant to beef through blood work. I haven't had beef for about five months. My doctor wants me to wait six months before trying it again so will give it a go in a month.

I cut down to eating just turnips, chicken, olive oil and sea salt. I then slowly added foods one at a time every few days. Once I got up to about fifty foods, I started eating everything except gluten, flax, beef, zucchini and eggs. So far the only foods that I seem to cause problems are venison and cucumbers. I tested moderately intolerant to both of those. I tested severely intolerant to lemons and they aren't causing any problems.

When I had my food intolerance tests done back in December, there were about 70 foods I was suppose to eliminate. I had a hard time giving up beef but now don't miss it at all. I suggest you give up both beef and peppercorns for a while and then give them a try.

Oh, yes!!! You are correct about giving up both beef and peppercorns for awhile!

But you know, I was reading another thread on the site that mentioned lectins in food. I had no idea. One of the things I ate last night was a VERY small portion (1/2 of a small red potato - with the skin). I've been ingesting about one of those over the course of each day and seem to tolerate this fine, but prior to this I was not eating the skin, and this one had a couple of sprouts on it before I cooked it. I did a little research, and those who are sensitive to nightshades have EXACTLY the same reaction I do (shakes and involuntary muscle reaction), which I always labeled as "anxiety". Also, the reaction is enhanced by a potato with SPROUTS on it. Mine last night had them, I knocked them off, but ate the skin. Luckily it was just a small portion.

I wonder. Still, not eating beef or peppercorns for awhile. And I will give up all nightshade vegetables until I know for sure.

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