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Which Would You Suspect?


salexander421

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salexander421 Enthusiast

So, I've been doing really good and pretty much just eating fresh unprocessed foods. Well, in wanting to add a little variety to my girls lunches I added two new things today and ended up with itchy hives, and both my girls ended up with itchy butts :P And now I'm starting to get the stomach stuff. So, I made some bean dip with the dried beans I cooked last night and the only ingredient that was new to us was the beans. I also got some food for life brown rice tortillas and cut them into triangles and fried them in olive oil, we've eaten these tortillas in the past but it's been a while. So, which would you suspect as the culprit?? I was so excited because it was a really yummy snack but apparently was not a good idea!


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domesticactivist Collaborator

Dried beans may have been cross contaminated. I would call the supplier and ask about processing and packaging circumstances.

It could also be trouble dealing with beans in general.

T.H. Community Regular

I also got some food for life brown rice tortillas and cut them into triangles and fried them in olive oil, we've eaten these tortillas in the past but it's been a while.

Honestly, I'd guess the tortillas. Quite a few people on the forum have had trouble with food for life products - there was even a discussion about the tortillas specifically in Feb.

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If I remember right, one of the issues has been that they often use barley water to process some of the grains. Because it is in the processing, it is not officially an 'ingredient' and can be left off the list. Also, barley gluten does not test as accurately as wheat and rye. Pretty consistently tests below the level that is actually present (although for a while it was the opposite), so if it's being used, it can definitely zap you and still test gluten free. Maybe it won't get you every time, but it ups the odds.

( a brief bit on that here: Open Original Shared Link )

good luck hunting down the culprit!

dilettantesteph Collaborator

It is easy to say in hindsight, but it is best to only add one new food a week, and keep track with a food/symptom journal. It could be either. Did you sort and wash the beans? That is a good idea.

GFreeMO Proficient

I would have to say the tortillas as well. Can you try Mission brand corn tortillas. They are safe and produced on a dedicated line. I am super sensitive and eat these all the time. I'm sorry you are all not feeling well.

Takala Enthusiast

Was it a new bottle of olive oil ? On another thread someone said there has been a problem with some kinds being adulterated. Google "olive oil adulterated" and then search news, and you'll find a lot of stories. This has been a big problem in Europe, and it has spilled over into the U.S. with imports of supposedly extra virgin oil, which, when studied, shows the majority are not. UC just did a study which they claim 73% mislabeled.... sometimes it's just that they added cheaper olive oil, but other times, it can be another type of oil.

Other than that, more likely the tortillas. :(

salexander421 Enthusiast

Thanks for all the replies! I did sort and rinse the beans but I was a little hesitant about trying them and probably should have stuck with my instincts. I haven't contacted the manufacturer yet but am going to. They were walmart's great value brand and say "naturally gluten free" on the package which I'm very skeptical of.

I usually only add one new thing at a time, I just got a little ahead of myself :P Won't happen again!

Still waiting on a reply from food for life...urgh. Thanks for the thread link!

I do not do well with corn so I try to avoid it as much as possible, makes it a little more difficult!

I've been doing fine with the bottle of olive oil so don't suspect it's the culprit.

I'm going to go with my gut and avoid both for the time being. Thanks so much for all your replies! :)


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Thanks for all the replies! I did sort and rinse the beans but I was a little hesitant about trying them and probably should have stuck with my instincts. I haven't contacted the manufacturer yet but am going to. They were walmart's great value brand and say "naturally gluten free" on the package which I'm very skeptical of.

I usually only add one new thing at a time, I just got a little ahead of myself :P Won't happen again!

Still waiting on a reply from food for life...urgh. Thanks for the thread link!

I do not do well with corn so I try to avoid it as much as possible, makes it a little more difficult!

I've been doing fine with the bottle of olive oil so don't suspect it's the culprit.

I'm going to go with my gut and avoid both for the time being. Thanks so much for all your replies! :)

I was one of the people who questioned Food for life about their gluten free foods. I loved the rice tortillas. There website had many inconsistencies. They had things listed one place as gluten-free but not another. When questioned about the use of barley water, they were confused. They were surprised at what the website said. Canada had a recall of the tortillas for unlisted gluten( I think it was). Some stores stopped carrying them because of labeling or manufacturing type issues.

I got the feeling they grew too fast. Maybe they have their act together now. I hope so as I liked the rice tortillas. Post the response they give you, please.

mushroom Proficient

Did you soak the beans overnight before you cooked them. They need soaking, rinsing and then cooking in fresh water.

salexander421 Enthusiast

Still haven't heard anything from food for life, stinks too cause I really liked their tortillas :( Yes, I washed the beans and soaked them and then rinsed them and cooked in fresh water. I'm going to try ordering some beans from nutsonline and see how that goes. It's only been a couple months since doing a 3 month gluten challenge so I think my body is still really sensitive, I haven't been able to eat a lot of the things I was able to eat before doing the gluten challenge.

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