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Issues With Chicken And Turkey


Pamela B.

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Pamela B. Apprentice

I've been gluten free for a month and a half after test results showed a "borderline gluten intolerance", and now I'm having issues with chicken and turkey, specifically boneless, skinless chicken breast and ground turkey. It makes me extremely fatigued after eating it, which is also what happens when I'm glutened, although this isn't quite as bad as a glutening is. Could I be reacting to the L-Tryptophan in the meat more than I used to? Or is it because I'm eating this meat on an empty stomach? I did make sure that they were gluten free. The brand of chicken is Harvestland and the turkey is made by Jennie-O.


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I've been gluten free for a month and a half after test results showed a "borderline gluten intolerance", and now I'm having issues with chicken and turkey, specifically boneless, skinless chicken breast and ground turkey. It makes me extremely fatigued after eating it, which is also what happens when I'm glutened, although this isn't quite as bad as a glutening is. Could I be reacting to the L-Tryptophan in the meat more than I used to? Or is it because I'm eating this meat on an empty stomach? I did make sure that they were gluten free. The brand of chicken is Harvestland and the turkey is made by Jennie-O.

You, like most, probably have "leaky gut". Normally a lot of mucus builds up inside and outside the intestines when the gut leaks. Guts normally start leaking due to candida. Candida roots grow through the intestinal walls, then die, leaving little holes. The holes need to heal and close up. The candida fungus needs to be killed via several months of candida cleanses.

If you quit gluten "cold-turkey", then your body is probably in a "cleanse mode". That means the toxic filled mucus inside your body is dissolving. Some of it is eliminated through the intestines. Part of it is eliminated via the bloodstream and liver. This cleansing process will cause the intestines to become irritated for awhile. This process also causes the bloodstream to become acidic and "dirty". The liver will filter it out eventually. If your body is cleansing rapidly (i.e. going cold-turkey), you will feel sluggish, head achey, etc. Meat is acidic and "might" cause more of an blood acidosis situation. Try having juice of a lemon, 1/2 hour before you eat the meat. Lemon (and limes) are the most alkaline foods on earth. They will offset/balance your overall intake and keep your PH levels more alkaline.

dilettantesteph Collaborator

I have problems with regular chicken and turkey too. I think that it comes from cc during processing. I am a super sensitive celiac, sensitive to very low levels of cc. I do fine with pasture raised chicken processed in an independent facility. I also do fine with beef and pork packaged at the meat distributor.

lovegrov Collaborator

No problems with chicken and turkey.

richard

Jestgar Rising Star

Try getting regular chicken breasts and skinning them yourself to see if that makes a difference. It could be the processing, CC, etc. The less handled your food is before it gets to you, the more you know about what's on the outside.

GlutenFreeManna Rising Star

I've been gluten free for a month and a half after test results showed a "borderline gluten intolerance", and now I'm having issues with chicken and turkey, specifically boneless, skinless chicken breast and ground turkey. It makes me extremely fatigued after eating it, which is also what happens when I'm glutened, although this isn't quite as bad as a glutening is. Could I be reacting to the L-Tryptophan in the meat more than I used to? Or is it because I'm eating this meat on an empty stomach? I did make sure that they were gluten free. The brand of chicken is Harvestland and the turkey is made by Jennie-O.

I am very sensitive to cc and I eat Harvestland chicken almost exclusively for my boneless skinless chicken. They advertise it as gluten free and it is cage free/no antibiotics, etc. It is possible that you have a problem with chicken and turkey. I have an allergy to pork and shellfish and the pork allergy showed up abotu the same tiem I started having really bad gluten-related symptoms. However, I also wanted to ask, how are you cooking them? Are you using the same pans or grill you used prior to going gluten free? Since you said it's similiar to a glutening but less intense perhaps you are getting some cc somehow when you prepare them.

Pamela B. Apprentice

I am very sensitive to cc and I eat Harvestland chicken almost exclusively for my boneless skinless chicken. They advertise it as gluten free and it is cage free/no antibiotics, etc. It is possible that you have a problem with chicken and turkey. I have an allergy to pork and shellfish and the pork allergy showed up abotu the same tiem I started having really bad gluten-related symptoms. However, I also wanted to ask, how are you cooking them? Are you using the same pans or grill you used prior to going gluten free? Since you said it's similiar to a glutening but less intense perhaps you are getting some cc somehow when you prepare them.

I've been using my stainless steel pan with a silicone spoon that has never touched gluten.


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I've been using my stainless steel pan with a silicone spoon that has never touched gluten.

Are you seasoning them with anything? Are your spices all new as well? What brand oil do you use?

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123glldd Collaborator

You, like most, probably have "leaky gut". Normally a lot of mucus builds up inside and outside the intestines when the gut leaks. Guts normally start leaking due to candida. Candida roots grow through the intestinal walls, then die, leaving little holes. The holes need to heal and close up. The candida fungus needs to be killed via several months of candida cleanses.

If you quit gluten "cold-turkey", then your body is probably in a "cleanse mode". That means the toxic filled mucus inside your body is dissolving. Some of it is eliminated through the intestines. Part of it is eliminated via the bloodstream and liver. This cleansing process will cause the intestines to become irritated for awhile. This process also causes the bloodstream to become acidic and "dirty". The liver will filter it out eventually. If your body is cleansing rapidly (i.e. going cold-turkey), you will feel sluggish, head achey, etc. Meat is acidic and "might" cause more of an blood acidosis situation. Try having juice of a lemon, 1/2 hour before you eat the meat. Lemon (and limes) are the most alkaline foods on earth. They will offset/balance your overall intake and keep your PH levels more alkaline.

I know this is an older thread but i came across this today and it raised an interesting question for me reading this response. I've been off gluten since may and i find that im still getting bits of mucus coming out in my stool but i don't feel sick. it's almost every day..small amounts. Been eating fairly bland and have felt great the last week or two since an episode with lots of mucus. Could it be i have leaky gut and it's being cleaned out? I haven't been tested for candida but i do have an increase in bilirubin on and off. it's not constant...which is making me wonder about the liver and what not mentioned here....does this sound like i have leaky gut possibly?

bartfull Rising Star

I'm glad you pointed out that this is an old thread. I was going to respond to the person who said lemons and limes are the most alkaline foods on earth. ALKALINE?? WRONG!!

Also, it is a myth that there is more L Tryptophan in turkey and that is why we get sleepy after a Thanksgiving dinner. ALL meats have L Tryptophan, and some have more than turkey. The reason we get sleepy after Thanksgiving dinner is because we eat a lot more food period than we normally do.

Wendybird, I wouldn't be at all surprised if you do have leaky gut. I think most of us do or did. Lots of probiotics and less sugar, plus a lot of time and patience should dothe trick.

kareng Grand Master

I know this is an older thread but i came across this today and it raised an interesting question for me reading this response. I've been off gluten since may and i find that im still getting bits of mucus coming out in my stool but i don't feel sick. it's almost every day..small amounts. Been eating fairly bland and have felt great the last week or two since an episode with lots of mucus. Could it be i have leaky gut and it's being cleaned out? I haven't been tested for candida but i do have an increase in bilirubin on and off. it's not constant...which is making me wonder about the liver and what not mentioned here....does this sound like i have leaky gut possibly?

Can you see the "group" under Dr B's photo? Perhaps he had something to sell? I would be careful about his "info". :D

123glldd Collaborator

I was curious if there was something to it though because of something i've been experiencing i wrote my own thread here :

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