Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Negative Ttg Iga Without Total Iga Count?


karenlynn

Recommended Posts

karenlynn Rookie

My primary care doctor ordered a tTG IgA and a DGP IgG upon my request. I specifically requested a total IgA (technically I requested a FULL panel and specified a total IgA) , but it appears it wasn't ordered. After 2 weeks I have finally received the tTG IgA results and am still waiting on the DGP IgG results. The tTG IgA says this:

Tissue Transglutaminase Ab. IgA, Serum Quantitative

Result <2 U/mL

Reference Range 0-3

Obviously the result is negative, but without the total IgA count how much weight should I give to this result? I know there is some possibility that I could be IgA deficient, but what's the likelihood that this is a false negative without knowing my total IgA status? The doctor seemed very dismissive of my request for a celiac panel. I'm concerned that if my DGP is positive that she'll dismiss it due to the negative tTG IgA (I'm having this problem with my 5 year old who tested negative DGP IgA and weak positive DGP IgG). Thoughts?

Thank you!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



1desperateladysaved Proficient

You could try contacting the doctor and see if the lab has a blood sample saved which they could run the total IgA on.  My doctors have told me that this was possible to do in the past.  They save some just in case something unexpected comes up.

 

A positive IgG could be significant (even if the number is low) that is just my opinion from my nearly two years on the forum.   

 

I am hoping you will get a definitive diagnosis.

 

Dee

nvsmom Community Regular

About 5% of celiacs are deficient in IgA, which is higher than the regular population, so there is a 5% chance of an IgA deficiency causing a false negative... but false negatives can happen even when a person is not deficient in IgA, as you saw with your 5 year old.

 

Most doctors recognize that a full panel should be run for at risk individuals - meaning someone who has celiac disease in their immediate family. If your tests are negative, I would push for more celiac tests, and that serum IgA; try to get whatever is available in your area.

 

Best wishes.

NoGlutenCooties Contributor

I would ask if they ran the complete Celiac panel, to include:

  • AGA (antigliadin antibodies)-IgA
  • AGA-IgG
  • tTG (anti-tissue transglutaminase)-IgA
  • EMA (anti-endomysial antibodies)-IgA
  • Total serum IgA

It is not uncommon to be negative in one and positive in another - that's why it is so important to run all of them.

I'm also not surprised that a 5 year old would have a "weak positive" result.  From what I understand, kids are even more difficult to diagnose because they haven't been alive long enough to produce high enough levels of the antibodies for them to really show up on the tests.  (not always, but it's more common with kids)  And the whole "weak positive" thing is bunk.  It's like saying you're weakly pregnant.  Keep pushing your doctor - or find one more knowledgeable about Celiac.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Mari replied to tiffanygosci's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      10

      New Celiac Mama in My 30s

    2. - tiffanygosci posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      0

      Aldi Pueblo Lindo Yellow Corn Tortillas

    3. - tiffanygosci replied to tiffanygosci's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      10

      New Celiac Mama in My 30s

    4. - trents replied to tiffanygosci's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      10

      New Celiac Mama in My 30s

    5. - Mari replied to tiffanygosci's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      10

      New Celiac Mama in My 30s


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,974
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    LRB
    Newest Member
    LRB
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Mari
      There is much helpful 'truth' posted on this forum. Truths about Celiac Disease are based on scientific research and people's experience. Celiac disease is inherited. There are 2 main Celiac 'genes' but they are variations of one gene called HLa - DQ What is inherited when a person inherits one or both of the DQ2 or the DQ8 is a predisposition to develop celiac disease after exposure to a environmental trigger. These 2 versions of the DQ gene are useful in diagnosing  celiac disease but there are about 25 other genes that are known to influence celiac disease so this food intolerance is a multigenic autoimmune disease. So with so many genes involved and each person inheriting a different array of these other genes one person's symptoms may be different than another's symptoms.  so many of these other genes.  I don't think that much research on these other genes as yet. So first I wrote something that seem to tie together celiac disease and migraines.  Then you posted that you had migraines and since you went gluten free they only come back when you are glutened. Then Scott showed an article that reported no connection between migraines and celiac disease, Then Trents wrote that it was possible that celiacs had more migraines  and some believed there was a causal effect. You are each telling the truth as you know it or experienced it.   
    • tiffanygosci
      Another annoying thing about trying to figure this Celiac life out is reading all of the labels and considering every choice. I shop at Aldi every week and have been for years. I was just officially diagnosed Celiac a couple weeks ago this October after my endoscopy. I've been encouraged by my local Aldi in that they have a lot of gluten free products and clearly labeled foods. I usually buy Milagro corn tortillas because they are cheap and are certified. However, I bought a package of Aldi's Pueblo Lindo Yellow Corn Tortillas without looking too closely (I was assuming they were fine... assuming never gets us anywhere good lol) it doesn't list any wheat products and doesn't say it was processed in a facility with wheat. It has a label that it's lactose free (hello, what?? When has dairy ever been in a tortilla?) Just, ugh. If they can add that label then why can't they just say something is gluten free or not? I did eat some of the tortillas and didn't notice any symptoms but I'm just not sure if it's safe. So I'll probably have to let my family eat them and stick with Milagro. There is way too much uncertainty with this but I guess you just have to stick with the clearly labeled products? I am still learning!
    • tiffanygosci
      Thank you all for sharing your experiences! And I am very thankful for that Thanksgiving article, Scott! I will look into it more as I plan my little dinner to bring with on the Holiday I'm also glad a lot of research has been done for Celiac. There's still a lot to learn and discover. And everyone has different symptoms. For me, I get a bad headache right away after eating gluten. Reoccurring migraines and visual disturbances were actually what got my PCP to order a Celiac Panel. I'm glad he did! I feel like when the inflammation hits my body it targets my head, gut, and lower back. I'm still figuring things out but that's what I've noticed after eating gluten! I have been eating gluten-free for almost two months now and haven't had such severe symptoms. I ate a couple accidents along the way but I'm doing a lot better
    • trents
      @Mari, did you read that second article that Scott linked? It is the most recently date one. "Researchers comparing rates of headaches, including migraines, among celiac patients and a healthy control group showed that celiac subjects experienced higher rates of headaches than control subjects, with the greatest rates of migraines found in celiac women.  Additionally, celiacs had higher rates of migraine than control subjects, especially in women. In fact, four out of five women with celiac disease suffered from migraines, and without aura nearly three-quarters of the time."
    • Mari
      As far as I know and I have made severalonline searches, celiac disease disease has not been recognized as a cause of migraines or any eye problems. What I wrote must have been confusing.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.