Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

What Thyroid Meds Do You Take?


HappyMom623

Recommended Posts

HappyMom623 Proficient

Hello! I am not sure if this is quite the correct place to post this, so let me know.

 

I was just diagnosed with Hypo/Hashimoto's last week. The doctor put me on 50mcg of Levothyroxine. I did some research on it online and can't find much. I've found some sites that say there are only two brands that ARE gluten free(Lennet and Mova). Mine is made my Mylan. Old searches said that Mylan said they don't use gluten, but I'm nervous that it won't always be Mylan brand when I pick it up? Because it's a generic, I'm sure it can change at any time with the Pharmacy.

 

I wrote my doctor today to tell him that even after speaking with a pharmacist who couldn't tell me it WAS or WASN'T, that I wanted a new medication. I sent him a list of gluten free thyroid meds I found online. Looks like Tirosint would be a decent one?

 

Anyway, just wondering if you take Levo and it bothers you, or if you take a different medicine?

 

thanks !


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Judy3 Contributor

I take Levothyroxine and mine is Mylan and it doesn't bother me at all.    I had my thyroid removed so I don't have a choice have to take it and I have Celiac too. 

Alwayssomething Contributor

I also take Levothyroxine and mine is Mylan and have not had any trouble.  I called Mylan when I first went on it about 4 years ago and they told me it was Gluten Free, as my pharmacy couldn't tell me.    In the 4 years I have been on this medication I have had it filled at a mail out pharmacy as well as local and it has never come from another manufacturer, not sure if I have just been lucky or what.  

 

My son has to take the name brand Synthroid and he has had no trouble, he can not take the generic because it just doesn't work for him for some reason, so name brand it is.  

HappyMom623 Proficient

Thank you both! Okay, then for now, I am good, I suppose. I haven't had any "effects" from it, but I couldn't find GOOD information anywhere online. I spoke to some other celiac's who said they refused to take it.

 

My doctor has not gotten back to me, but for now i'll feel okay taking it.

mamaw Community Regular

I took one  pill of levothyroxine  & felt  something  wrong.... I developed  angio lympathic edema for  nine  months  from  that  drug....not a pretty picture.. Now  I am  super  sensitive to drugs.... Mylan  does not  guarantee  their  synthyroid  is gluten-free.....

Tirosint  is a newer  drug  that  has  very few  ingredients  so  is less  likely to cause a problem.... My  daughter  is on  it  & after  a month they had  to reduce  her  dosage....she has  Hashi...... no gluten  in this  one.....

I had  my thyroid  removed (RAI)  in  2007... I  produce  my  hormone  from  the gland...  I  love  for the last  three  years Nature-throid  by RLC Labs...they are a  safe  drug producing  what  a  normal  thyroid  produces....  it  is  hard to find a  doc  to  write a  script  for it..  Most  of  the  thyroid  docs  are  owned  by  the  synthroid  drug  & Mylan.....

Mylan has  had  so many lawsuits  in the  past  I do not trust  them .....

 In 07  after  by gland  was  killed off  I was put  on synthyroid  for several years as  time  went  by I became  a space cadet  I couldn't  function & my thought  process  was  that  of a  third  grader....so  grateful to be  off  of  that  drug....

HappyMom623 Proficient

What is "angio lympathic edema" ??

 

That sounds awful!!

 

I get nervous about it. I hope the doc will put me on tirosint, however, I'm trying to get in with a new Endo that's part of an internal medicine practice. I'm wondering if they'd be more willing to prescribe more natural thyroid meds like Armour, and NatureThroid.

cahill Collaborator

I have Hashimotos .I have been on thryoid meds for about the last 20 + years. I have been on name brand Synthroid  since 2002 with no problems .I cannot take the generic ( I bounce around like a rubber ball ) it has to be name brand


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



HappyMom623 Proficient

So Synthroid doesn't give you any problems? That's good.

 

I'd really prefer to be on something more natural, but most doctors don't want that.

cyclinglady Grand Master

I take Armour thyroid and have for almost 20 years. There was a time that insurance would not pay for it (many years ago) but I paid cash. In fact, I have been paying cash up until last year. It is the same price or close as my co-pay of $15.00. I get a 100 day supply and it is about $25 to $30. If I would order it through insurance, I would have to do it monthly and my out of pocket total for 3 months would be higher -- $45 and I would have to go the pharmacy and remember to re-order it.

I never had a doctor not write a prescription for it.

mamaw Community Regular

I've  heard  the  new  reformed  armour  is  not  the  same as the old  armour...but  I  can't  say for positive as  I never  used  it....

Synthyroid  can not  guarantee  its  gluten-free   now.... years  ago  the 50  mg  was gluten-free  but  they have since  changed  that statement....

 

angio lympathic  edema  is  one  of the most  horrible  things  I  have gone  through...google  it  & look at  the  oddly  deformed  faces  of  that  ... I  spent  nine  months  in my house  , face  so badly  swollen  &  inside  soft  tissue  so  damaged.. sore  & very painful...I was  seen  by  several specialist  in that  field  all  said  I was  one  of the  worse  cases....It  never  goes  away  totally, I  still experience  soft  tissue  damage & sore  mouth  although  no  more  outside swelling....

My  daughter's  doc  took  her  off  of  synthyroid  because  he  said it  wasn't  safe  for a celiac  since  they  can't  say it doesn't  contain  gluten.. The  tirosint  seems  to be  good  so far.... It  also is only T-4.

The  reason I LOVE  nature-throid  by RLC Labs  is  they  care  about  ingredients &  it  contains T-4, T-1, T-2-, T-3  & calcitonin,  all the  things  a  normal  person's  thyroid  makes  on a daily basis...  I was  on  synthyroid  for years, insurance  decided I  had to go to generic( levothyroxine) , cost  reasons,  then I  developed  the  angio  crap almost  immediately... I  demanded  I be  put  on a  whole glandular ....I  would  not  accept  anything  else, so with no thyroid  I would  die in a few weeks  so  doc  gave  in....I gave  him  two  whole glandular's  I would accept... I  was  not  going  to let  him  screw  me  over  this time.. It  wasn't  truly his  fault  , it  was  my insurance....I'm his  only patient  that  he  writes  this script  for... he  will not  do it  for  any others  in  his  large  practice.. He  said  he  gets  his pay from  the  synthyroid  mafia so  he  can't  risk  loosing  his practice  ....It is  a  shame  when  doctors  have to buckle under  to the  strong arm  pharmacy companies but  that is the  American  way these  days...

I  pay out  of my pocket  for this drug but  it isn't  expensive....I don't  want  the insurance  to have  anymore  say in what I can put  in my body....

I feel  like  a  real person  on this  not a space cadet!

nvsmom Community Regular

I'm in Canada so what I take, even if the same name brand, may be different than what is available in the USA.

 

I used to take about 150mcg of Levothyroxine as Synthroid.  It wasn't doing it for me so I switched to a natural desiccated thyroid product called Erfa's Thyroid.  I take about the same amount (150) as when I was on Synthroid. I personally like it MUCH better than the Synthroid, and would hate to have to go back to Synthroid.

 

Synthetic T4 is a good place to start though.  It does work for most hypothyroid patients.  Good luck with it!   :)

mamaw Community Regular

Erfa  is  the other one  I had  said  I would take....My doc  here  would not prescribe  it  for me  because  it  wasn't  US  regulated which  made  me laugh...at  that  time  Mylan  had  several  lawsuits  happening... I  laughed  & said  I would rather take  my chances  on a Canadian  drug...but  he  gave  in  to the one  I now  take. I never  want to  change.....

I honestly believe  whole  glandular  is  best....

StephanieL Enthusiast

My DS takes Mylan brand for several years with no issues.  I always call the pharmacy and ask them for that specific brand to be sure that's what we get for him.  I have called several times on it (when changing dosages and just checking up). 

I was told by our Endo just last week that Synthroid is not gluten-free but I don't know if it was they won't guarantee or it actually isn't.

etbtbfs Rookie

I take both T3 (cytomel) and T4 (levoxyl) because King Pharmaceuticals, years ago, declared they are gluten-free. King is now owned by another company but i still trust their products. Also, the maker of Unithroid declares it is gluten-free.

I wont use Synthroid. Their attitude reminds me of the old Lilly Tomlin joke .... Were the phone company, we dont care, we dont have to.

HappyMom623 Proficient

So get this. My doctor's nurse called me back today about concern with Levo not being gluten free and tells me this:

 

"That if there was gluten in the pill, he is sure that the amount is so small that it would not affect you! But if you have issues with this, you can make another appointment to discuss with us"

 

WOWWWWWW. So I guess they don't understand Celiac AT ALL. If I'm taking something EVERY day of my life, even a small amount of gluten is going to cause problems.

 

I'm so frustrated I could cry. Thank god I have an appointment with an Endo in April. Maybe she can put me on Tirosint.

HappyMom623 Proficient

Just to add -- right now I'm NOT having issues with the Levo, but I'd really prefer something like Tirosint so I don't have to worry about fillers... like ever. I asked the doctor to give me a new med and he completely ignored my request.

 

I have lost all faith in the medical field, officially.

mamaw Community Regular

that's  the medical  profession!!!! I understand  your  pain & anger, ... but  I wouldn't  expect much more  from  an endo doc... .non-caring  & ignorant....remember  the  drug  mfg   owns  these  guys  .......honestly  I think  endo  docs  are  the worse ....

sorry I wish I could  find  something  nice  to say about  them....I would  love for  an endo  doc  to change  my mind.....

HappyMom623 Proficient

Damn.

 

Well here's a question.

 

If the doc sends in my script and it's for a generic Levothyroxine, Am I able to pay out of pocket for the name brand??? Tirosint is the exact same drug, just in liquid from. I don't understand if I can do this or not, but since it's the same exact medicine, I'm not seeing why I couldn't. I'm going to call the pharmacy tonight and see what I can do.

Gemini Experienced

Open Original Shared Link

 

Here is some good information on natural thyroid hormone.  I use Nature-throid with good results but did use levothyroxine for years and stopped because once I healed from Celiac, it just wasn't doing it's job and I needed to use one with T3.  It is gluten free and so is Armour.  This information also goes into detail about the ingredients in natural thyroid hormone and explains what each one is for.....fillers and all. 

 

People get overly worried about gluten in thyroid meds.  Yes, we need to check everything but I have yet to find one that actually did contain gluten and I have been taking various thyroid hormones for well over 20 years now and have never been glutened by any of them.  Synthroid does not guarantee gluten free status but that is just a disclaimer and does not mean it is not gluten free.  I would never use Synthroid because its a brand name and costs a fortune here in the US, unless that has changed.

 

Endocrinologists fear natural thyroid hormone because they are taught in medical school that they are not consistent with dosage and probably, these companies do not buy doctors lunch.  ;)   But they are safe and work well for many.  They are also much cheaper than most brand name, synthetic hormones and are easily affordable out of pocket.  I am in the US.  Remember, natural thyroid hormone were the ones originally used, until synthetics came about.  I stick with what works.

 

Good luck!

HappyMom623 Proficient

Thanks! I'm sure you are right. I'm probably worrying too much, and I'm going to drop it.

 

I just have felt SO bad, for so long because doctors wouldn't listen to me about Celiac, and then my thyroid. I was worried that I'd finally get medication and then read that it may not even be safe!!

 

I just want to do everything I can to feel as best as I can.

 

Thanks!!

HappyMom623 Proficient

and yeah, my PCP definitely isn't going to prescribe me natural meds. LOL.

Gemini Experienced

I totally understand what you feel.  Been there, done that, not pretty!  I ended up finding a functional medicine MD many years ago when it wasn't all the rage to do so and she was the ONLY doctor willing to give me natural dessicated hormone and dose by symptoms first, blood work second.  I have Celiac and Hashi's also and was very messed up 10 years ago.  It is getting easier to find doctors willing to help but still not easy enough.  Old habits die hard with them.

 

Just keep in mind that as you heal, there may be a giant shift at some point and the hormone level you take now may be too much once you start absorbing better.  If you start to feel hyper at any time, don't take any more hormone and call the doctor's office about it.  That is a good sign, in a crazy sort of way.  It means your gut is getting better. It took 4 years for that to happen to me so don't be sitting around waiting for it to happen...keep it in the back of your head!  :)  Be patient...it takes a while before your thyroid is balanced and happy and you heal from Celiac damage.  It will happen though!

HappyMom623 Proficient

Thanks! I've been gluten-free for 3 years.. so hopefully some healing has already happened!

nvsmom Community Regular

I too had to doctor shop to find someone who would prescribe NDT to me. My GP told me his "scientic mind" would not allow him to prescribe NDT.  LOL   :huh:  :rolleyes:  I can laugh now but at the time I was so frustrated with him that I was in tears.

 

Getting the thyroid right is hard.  Hang in there.

HappyMom623 Proficient

Oh good lord. I don't understand why there is such debate about it!!! What did they use years before synthetic medicine exsisted? UGH!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      14

      My only proof

    2. - Jmartes71 replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      14

      My only proof

    3. - marion wheaton posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      0

      Are Lindt chocolate balls gluten free?

    4. - Dorothy O. commented on Scott Adams's article in Latest Research
      7

      Study Estimates the Costs of Delayed Celiac Disease Diagnosis (+Video)

    5. - JoJo0611 replied to JoJo0611's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      CT with contrast.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,402
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    alanhlam
    Newest Member
    alanhlam
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, I understand your frustration and anger.  I've been in a similar situation where no doctor took me seriously, accused me of making things up, and eventually sent me home to suffer alone.   My doctors did not recognize nutritional deficiencies.  Doctors are trained in medical learning institutions that are funded by pharmaceutical companies.  They are taught which medications cover up which symptoms.  Doctors are required to take twenty  hours of nutritional education in seven years of medical training.  (They can earn nine hours in Nutrition by taking a three day weekend seminar.)  They are taught nutritional deficiencies are passe' and don't happen in our well fed Western society any more.  In Celiac Disease, the autoimmune response and inflammation affects the absorption of ALL the essential vitamins and minerals.  Correcting nutritional deficiencies caused by malabsorption is essential!  I begged my doctor to check my Vitamin D level, which he did only after making sure my insurance would cover it.  When my Vitamin D came back extremely low, my doctor was very surprised, but refused to test for further nutritional deficiencies because he "couldn't make money prescribing vitamins.". I believe it was beyond his knowledge, so he blamed me for making stuff up, and stormed out of the exam room.  I had studied Nutrition before earning a degree in Microbiology.  I switched because I was curious what vitamins from our food were doing in our bodies.  Vitamins are substances that our bodies cannot manufacture, so we must ingest them every day.  Without them, our bodies cannot manufacture life sustaining enzymes and we sicken and die.   At home alone, I could feel myself dying.  It's an unnerving feeling, to say the least, and, so, with nothing left to lose, I relied in my education in nutrition.  My symptoms of Thiamine deficiency were the worst, so I began taking high dose Thiamine.  I had health improvement within an hour.  It was magical.  I continued taking high dose thiamine with a B Complex, magnesium. and other essential nutrients.  The health improvements continued for months.  High doses of thiamine are required to correct a thiamine deficiency because thiamine affects every cell and mitochondria in our bodies.    A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function.  The cerebellum of the brain is most affected.  The cerebellum controls things we don't have to consciously have to think about, like digestion, balance, breathing, blood pressure, heart rate, hormone regulation, and many more.  Thiamine is absorbed from the digestive tract and sent to the most important organs like the brain and the heart.  This leaves the digestive tract depleted of Thiamine and symptoms of Gastrointestinal Beriberi, a thiamine deficiency localized in the digestive system, begin to appear.  Symptoms of Gastrointestinal Beriberi include anxiety, depression, chronic fatigue, headaches, Gerd, acid reflux, gas, slow stomach emptying, gastroparesis, bloating, diarrhea and/or constipation, incontinence, abdominal pain, IBS,  SIBO, POTS, high blood pressure, heart rate changes like tachycardia, difficulty swallowing, Barrett's Esophagus, peripheral neuropathy, and more. Doctors are only taught about thiamine deficiency in alcoholism and look for the classic triad of symptoms (changes in gait, mental function, and nystagmus) but fail to realize that gastrointestinal symptoms can precede these symptoms by months.  All three classic triad of symptoms only appear in fifteen percent of patients, with most patients being diagnosed with thiamine deficiency post mortem.  I had all three but swore I didn't drink, so I was dismissed as "crazy" and sent home to die basically.   Yes, I understand how frustrating no answers from doctors can be.  I took OTC Thiamine Hydrochloride, and later thiamine in the forms TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) and Benfotiamine to correct my thiamine deficiency.  I also took magnesium, needed by thiamine to make those life sustaining enzymes.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins, so the other B vitamins must be supplemented as well.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.   A doctor can administer high dose thiamine by IV along with the other B vitamins.  Again, Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine should be given if only to rule Gastrointestinal Beriberi out as a cause of your symptoms.  If no improvement, no harm is done. Share the following link with your doctors.  Section Three is especially informative.  They need to be expand their knowledge about Thiamine and nutrition in Celiac Disease.  Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test for thiamine deficiency.  This test is more reliable than a blood test. Thiamine, gastrointestinal beriberi and acetylcholine signaling.  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12014454/ Best wishes!
    • Jmartes71
      I have been diagnosed with celiac in 1994, in remission not eating wheat and other foods not to consume  my household eats wheat.I have diagnosed sibo, hernia ibs, high blood pressure, menopause, chronic fatigue just to name a few oh yes and Barrett's esophagus which i forgot, I currently have bumps in back of my throat, one Dr stated we all have bumps in the back of our throat.Im in pain.Standford specialist really dismissed me and now im really in limbo and trying to get properly cared for.I found a new gi and new pcp but its still a mess and medical is making it look like im a disability chaser when Im actively not well I look and feel horrible and its adding anxiety and depression more so.Im angery my condition is affecting me and its being down played 
    • marion wheaton
      Wondering if anyone knows whether Lindt chocolate balls are gluten free. The Lindt Canadian website says yes but the Lindt USA website says no. The information is a bit confusing.
    • JoJo0611
      I didn’t know there were different types of CT. I’m not sure which I had. It just said CT scan with contrast. 
    • Scott Adams
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.