Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Celiac blood panel normal. What in the world could be wrong with me?


Barebears

Recommended Posts

Barebears Newbie

I am constantly sick to my stomach. I’m always nauseated after eating and I get really bad stomach cramps at least a couple times a day. I also throw up at times because of the nausea. This all started maybe about a month or two after I had my last baby. He is 6 months old so this has been going on for several months now. The thought of food is starting to disgust me because I know how sick it’s going to make me feel once I eat it. This list of foods that I can’t eat just keeps getting bigger and bigger. I told my husband last night that I should just start eating plain salad leaves from now on because that’s pretty much the only thing that sounds good to me at this point. I thought for sure my celiac panel would come back positive for celiac because of how awful I feel but I guess not. I also have trouble gaining weight (I’ve actually lost 7lb this month without doing anything differently) and I am always anemic. I’m also kinda not surprised it came back negative because nobody in my family has celiac. I have an endoscopy scheduled at the end of the month so they can get a better look at things but what if they don’t find anything? That may sound like a good thing but it’s not when you are constantly suffering. I just want to know what’s wrong so I can get it fixed. Does anyone else have this problem?? 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



GFinDC Veteran

Hi, what celiac tests did you have and what were the results and the ranges?  IgA, IgG, EMA,  total serum IgA?

There are several antibody tests they can do, but often they don't do all of them.  Some people don't show up on the blood tests but still have celiac disease.  There's also the possibility of an ulcer or some other condition.

cyclinglady Grand Master
(edited)

Ditto what GFinDC said.  You should ask for the complete panel.  I never get a positive on the standard popular screening tests: TTG or EMA.  Good thing my GI ordered the entire panel or my diagnosis would have been missed.  

Just want to clarify....where you consuming 1 to 2 slices of bread (or equivalent) 8 to 12 weeks prior to the blood test?  If you were gluten light, that can impact the blood tests.  You need to be consuming gluten prior to the endoscopy too.  You need to be on gluten a good solid two weeks that test to be accurate.  

I am also the first in my family to be diagnosed.  I went for a routine colonoscopy because I am over 50. My GI saw in my chart that I had been anemic for as long as they had measured it.  My anemia was blamed on supposedly “heavy” periods.  I did not even have any GI issues at the time.  

 

 

Edited by cyclinglady
Barebears Newbie

This is the tests they did. I’m not sure of the results. The just told me it came back normal. I have been on a regular diet. I didn’t do anything special before the blood test. 

C0F57491-3E09-47E1-B0A7-99A336491990.png

cyclinglady Grand Master

It looks like you had the TTG and maybe the EMA or they did not do the EMA test because your TTG was negative.  In any case, the DGP IgA or DGP IgG tests were not given.  Again, I tested negative to the TTG and EMA even on follow-up testing.  Not common, but it happens.  You can ask the GI when you go for the endoscopy to run the DGP tests.  Often, primary care physicians are not authorized to run an entire panel, but GIs are.  

Be sure biopsies are taken in both the small intestine and stomach.  Four or more tissue samples are recommended in the small intestine.  Have them rule out SIBO or Inflammatory Bowel Disease.  My niece tested negative on celiac tests, including biopsies, but a pill camera found damage from Crohn’s disease that was out of reach of both scopes.  

Find out the cause of your anemia and the type.   I have a genetic anemia which masked my iron-deficiency anemia (which was blamed on my menstruation cycle (not true)!  You can have more than one type of anemia!  

 

frieze Community Regular

Gallbladder

cyclinglady Grand Master
3 hours ago, frieze said:

Gallbladder

Why did I not think of the gallbladder?  Good call.   I had my gallbladder removed (non-functioning).   A HIDA scan confirmed it.   Looking back I wonder if I had been diagnosed sooner with celiac disease, my gallbladder might have healed.  


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



  • 2 weeks later...
CMCM Rising Star

Well, I had numerous blood tests for celiac yet I never got a positive reading.  Same with my son. I eventually got a stool test from Enterolab which they claimed showed evidence of celiac reactions....I've never known how reliable Enterolab's test is as it has been disputed, BUT....I then did the gene test and learned I had my mother's celiac gene plus a gene from my father that is supposedly a gluten sensitivity related gene, so I knew I had the predisposition to celiac.  Eliminating gluten quickly eliminated all my lifelong symptoms.  The train of events was pretty much the same with my son.  His celiac first showed up as the dermatitis herpetiformis reaction.  He got the gene test, had the same celiac gene from me, and he gave up gluten.  The DH went away and has never come back, BUT....now if he gets some sort of cross contamination his reaction is fairly quick and he gets extremely sick.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,902
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Patty6133
    Newest Member
    Patty6133
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @Judy M! Yes, he definitely needs to continue eating gluten until the day of the endoscopy. Not sure why the GI doc advised otherwise but it was a bum steer.  Celiac disease has a genetic component but also an "epigenetic" component. Let me explain. There are two main genes that have been identified as providing the "potential" to develop "active" celiac disease. We know them as HLA-DQ 2.5 (aka, HLA-DQ 2) and HLA-DQ8. Without one or both of these genes it is highly unlikely that a person will develop celiac disease at some point in their life. About 40% of the general population carry one or both of these two genes but only about 1% of the population develops active celiac disease. Thus, possessing the genetic potential for celiac disease is far less than deterministic. Most who have the potential never develop the disease. In order for the potential to develop celiac disease to turn into active celiac disease, some triggering stress event or events must "turn on" the latent genes. This triggering stress event can be a viral infection, some other medical event, or even prolonged psychological/emotional trauma. This part of the equation is difficult to quantify but this is the epigenetic dimension of the disease. Epigenetics has to do with the influence that environmental factors and things not coded into the DNA itself have to do in "turning on" susceptible genes. And this is why celiac disease can develop at any stage of life. Celiac disease is an autoimmune condition (not a food allergy) that causes inflammation in the lining of the small bowel. The ingestion of gluten causes the body to attack the cells of this lining which, over time, damages and destroys them, impairing the body's ability to absorb nutrients since this is the part of the intestinal track responsible for nutrient absorption and also causing numerous other food sensitivities such as dairy/lactose intolerance. There is another gluten-related disorder known as NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity or just, "gluten sensitivity") that is not autoimmune in nature and which does not damage the small bowel lining. However, NCGS shares many of the same symptoms with celiac disease such as gas, bloating, and diarrhea. It is also much more common than celiac disease. There is no test for NCGS so, because they share common symptoms, celiac disease must first be ruled out through formal testing for celiac disease. This is where your husband is right now. It should also be said that some experts believe NCGS can transition into celiac disease. I hope this helps.
    • Judy M
      My husband has had lactose intolerance for his entire life (he's 68 yo).  So, he's used to gastro issues. But for the past year he's been experiencing bouts of diarrhea that last for hours.  He finally went to his gastroenterologist ... several blood tests ruled out other maladies, but his celiac results are suspect.  He is scheduled for an endoscopy and colonoscopy in 2 weeks.  He was told to eat "gluten free" until the tests!!!  I, and he know nothing about this "diet" much less how to navigate his in daily life!! The more I read, the more my head is spinning.  So I guess I have 2 questions.  First, I read on this website that prior to testing, eat gluten so as not to compromise the testing!  Is that true? His primary care doctor told him to eat gluten free prior to testing!  I'm so confused.  Second, I read that celiac disease is genetic or caused by other ways such as surgery.  No family history but Gall bladder removal 7 years ago, maybe?  But how in God's name does something like this crop up and now is so awful he can't go a day without worrying.  He still works in Manhattan and considers himself lucky if he gets there without incident!  Advice from those who know would be appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Scott Adams
      You've done an excellent job of meticulously tracking the rash's unpredictable behavior, from its symmetrical spread and stubborn scabbing to the potential triggers you've identified, like the asthma medication and dietary changes. It's particularly telling that the rash seems to flare with wheat consumption, even though your initial blood test was negative—as you've noted, being off wheat before a test can sometimes lead to a false negative, and your description of the other symptoms—joint pain, brain fog, stomach issues—is very compelling. The symmetry of the rash is a crucial detail that often points toward an internal cause, such as an autoimmune response or a systemic reaction, rather than just an external irritant like a plant or mites. I hope your doctor tomorrow takes the time to listen carefully to all of this evidence you've gathered and works with you to find some real answers and effective relief. Don't be discouraged if the rash fluctuates; your detailed history is the most valuable tool you have for getting an accurate diagnosis.
    • Scott Adams
      In this case the beer is excellent, but for those who are super sensitive it is likely better to go the full gluten-free beer route. Lakefront Brewery (another sponsor!) has good gluten-free beer made without any gluten ingredients.
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @catsrlife! Celiac disease can be diagnosed without committing to a full-blown "gluten challenge" if you get a skin biopsy done during an active outbreak of dermatitis herpetiformis, assuming that is what is causing the rash. There is no other known cause for dermatitis herpetiformis so it is definitive for celiac disease. You would need to find a dermatologist who is familiar with doing the biopsy correctly, however. The samples need to be taken next to the pustules, not on them . . . a mistake many dermatologists make when biopsying for dermatitis herpetiformis. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.