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rinne
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Significant changes were discovered in the blood samples from the intervals following the foods cooked in the microwave oven. Lymphocytes (white blood cells) showed a more distinct short-term decrease following the intake of microwaved food than after the intake of all the other variants. The indicators pointed to degeneration. This led Dr. Hertel to the conclusion that such technically derived energies may, indeed, be passed along to man via eating microwaved food. According to Dr. Hertel,

"Leukocytosis, which cannot be accounted for by normal daily deviations, is taken very seriously by hematologists. Leukocytes are often signs of pathogenic effects on the living system, such as poisoning and cell damage. It appears that marked increases were caused entirely by ingesting the microwaved substances.

"There is extensive scientific literature concerning the hazardous effects of direct microwave radiation on living systems. It is astonishing, therefore, to realize how little effort has been taken to replace this detrimental technique of microwaves with technology more in accordance with nature. There are no atoms, molecules or cells of any organic system able to withstand such a violent, destructive power for any extended period of time, not even in the low energy range of milliwatts."

The same violent deformations that occur in our bodies, when we are directly exposed to radar or microwaves, also occur in the molecules of foods cooked in a microwave oven. This radiation results in the destruction and deformation of food molecules. Microwaving also creates new compounds, called radiolytic compounds, which are unknown fusions not found in nature. Radiolytic compounds are created by molecular decomposition - decay - as a direct result of radiation.

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I'm outta here guys. Didn't have time to catch completely up.

Hello Rachel on lunch break....sorry I can't stay and read you posts, you too Rinne.

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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No, not my microwave, lol. Holy goodness, how can I heat my lunch at work? We have a stove downstairs but sometimes I have to heat and eat it quickly. Can't imagine cooking it in a pot...hum, we have a regular oven too...I'll have to ask someone how to work it though...did I mention I am no Julia Childs in the kitchen. :lol: Then, I guess I'd have to have some kind of glass thingy here to put it in because aluminum foil isn't the greatest either. :(

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I don't understand this but what jumps out at me is the fact that boils are made up of neutrophils and neutrophils are there to fight infection, what is the infection if someone in every other way appears healthy? In my thirties when I started to get boils I talked to my mother about it and she said that during her thirties she had boils and that my grandmother during her thirties had boils but in both their cases and mine those boils disappeared in our forties. I've also taken large does of garlic when a boil started to appear and had them subside and not come to a head, given that garlic is a natural antibiotic this makes sense. So, most recently I started to have other symptoms that my mother has and what I am seeing is that the Celiac manifests itself in stages, so for me first skin problems, then migraines, then boils, then arthritis......it seems like each manifestation shows the increasing inflammation to the body is the body attempting to communicate with us and each time we only deal with a symptom the problems go deeper. What I am curious about is how the disease morphs so that boils are no longer a problem but something else is.

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Interesting about the neutrophil thing.

Rinne,my son keeps getting boils (I suspect he's a coeliac and is waiting on blood results)

The slightest little pimple seems to end up as a full scale boil.

He currently has a nasty one on his leg,which started as an tiny yellow head.

Oh gosh,his poor leg got sooo red and inflamed (hot to touch too)

It's nearly healed now but has taken 2 weeks,anything takes forever to heal-and they seem to leave such large holes :unsure:

I can only think it's something to do with a comprimised immune system? :(

Reading on.......

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Rachel--24
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Rachel--No wonder your stomach was bothering you last night--having a car accident will really shake you up! The whole production afterwards with the police, etc. Good thing it was minor, and no one was hurt.

Nah...it was definately the ice cream. I seriously pigged out. :ph34r:

The accident was extremely minor...not even a dent or scratch in the paint of either car. Just some scuffs...I'll just rub mine out. They made a claim...so insurance will probably go up now...thats the real bummer.

Thats a very good question. Hmm, not realy sure... I'll go look for myself, and return when I have news or get bored of looking.....

:lol::lol:

OMG!!! Seriously I was wondering the same thing. I was more itchy for the last two days than I have been...the spots also burned...I was wondering if the histamine leave kicking and screaming. :lol:

Yeah...I've noticed this too...not sure what its all about though. Its probably the same as when we first went gluten-free....I dont know about you guys but for me that was probably the worst week of my life. I seriously thought I was dying and I could hardly eat, walk or even hold my head up. I was literally only able to eat half of an apple without feeling like I would vomit. I'm thinking its our bodies getting rid of the toxins as well as withdrawl. I recall reading that we can go through withdrawl from any type of food or substance that we are intolerant to. Its almost always the foods we crave the most that are the ones causing problems.

I've always loved the gluteney foods and pastries....loved bread way too much. However when I was really sick...the sicker I got the more I was wanting these foods. It got to the point where I was only wanting these foods....nothing else. Instead of having a few pieces of toast I was eating more like 8. Also mac and cheese which I might ususally have once or twice a week I was then eating it everday....and I just got sicker. This is when I rapidly lost the weight...25 lbs. total. To go from eating like this to suddenly only eating a few veggies and fruits...oh man...it was serious serious withdrawl for me.

I wondered if the comment went unnoticed by everyone but me! :rolleyes: We're on to you, Dave!!! :D Better be on your best behavior!

Ummm...I noticed it too. :ph34r:

Will have to find out what this is all about. :huh:

Yeah Dave....best behavior!!! All eyes are on YOU! :D

Celia- When I first saw your new picture I almost died laughing, all by myself, looking like an idiot here. I LOVE her (or is it a him) :lol: She/He has to be our mascot or something. What is that an emu, or an ostrich? Look at that face!

:lol:

Yeah Celia...that was hilarious. I also vote for the ostrich thing as our mascot!! :D

Thanks Julie, and you're welcome, lol. It won't be too hard to leave out the peanut butter and apricot spread (that's a new addition anyway)...it's the chocolate I'll need intervention for. :lol: Hey, it's 8:43 a.m. here and STILL no chocolate. :P

Yeah I second everything Julie posted. I would also add pork to the list as well. Pork is high in histamine. I've experienced reactions from it.... I'm pretty sure pork should be avoided. Green beans are also a possibility...all beans are high in histamines...especially kidney beans, pinto beans...but really all of them are high.

Interesting drive-by-factoid...when this thread started I was 50...I'm 51 now. :lol::lol::lol:

:lol::lol:

I wonder if we'll still be here when you're 52.....

I think maybe when you were 50 we were only a pajama party with a few giggly girls...

Now we are a whole cult farm paradise....

Who knows what we will be when you turn 52. :huh:

Donna - more itching?? a histamine withdrawal! Eat chocolate! :ph34r: oops did I say that...I'm on three days, no Nuggets....

:lol::lol:

Donna....dont do it!!

3 days no nuggets??? WOOHOO! Wonder if I could last that long no ice cream?? :rolleyes:

Donna, there is something about cashew butter also and I just don't remember what, sorry. :(

Micro-wave ovens, I haven't used one after reading somethings about them that caused me to question whether or not they are really safe.

Cashews contain alot of mold....

Microwave ovens....I know they are very bad but I must use mine everyday. :ph34r:

Although I'm much better in the kitchen than I used to be...I'm still no Susie homemaker.

Nope, I was all over it like white on rice, lol. Just decided it was best not to write what I had typed out, lol. :lol:

:lol::lol:

Donna....I'm soooo very curious!

I'm sure whatever it was that you typed out.... probably would have made me spit out corn tortilla crumbs all over this computer screen. :lol:

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
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Donna....I'm soooo very curious!

I'm sure whatever it was that you typed out.... probably would have made me spit out corn tortilla crumbs all over this computer screen. :lol:

I'm curious, too!!

Even more curious for Dave's explanation!!

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Rachel--24
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Vincent...I keep forgetting to ask about this....

I remember you posting way back in this thread that you're not Celiac????

I have been confused about that ever since. :unsure:

I thought that after doing the challenge and everything else....you had come to the conclusion that you were. What changed?? Timothy got his genes from someone. Didnt you say he was also IgA deficient???

Was it the blood sugar thing? I didnt follow that thread all the way through so maybe thats why I'm lost. :huh:

Also, you were nominated the Rahelville hero because of all you've done for Tanya, Megan and that whole family. You might not think its much but I'm sure Tanya would say the "hero" titled is warranted. :D

Btw...I need to review that thread. I havent heard a thing about Megan in days...I'm assuming she's at home now? Is she still doing well?

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thank you for all the scientificness. It really helped. I'll be talking to my GI tomorrow about the blood work and colonsocopy results. Seeing the reproductive endo today :ph34r:

susie- Yippeee!!!! I have another sister. it's hard to tell from pics, but maybe we were twins seperated at birth. I was adopted after all. OMG- imagine that!!!! Actually, you are also now a part of Lynne's family as they adopted me. We'll have to do a family tree. :P

And then Patti is somehow related to a beautiful baby ostrich in need of a blue (or was it purple?0 ribbon and some peach lipstick. wow! this is getting weird.

Green12 Enthusiast
Green12
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thank you for all the scientificness. It really helped. I'll be talking to my GI tomorrow about the blood work and colonsocopy results. Seeing the reproductive endo today :ph34r:

Beware, the scientificness in Rachelville is contagious :lol::lol:

Good luck with your appt today :)

morganb Newbie
morganb
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I haven't used a microwave in 10 years, I even unplug them if they are on the premises :lol: Would love to hear the info too rinne, as I have forgotten some of the details.

Thanks for the compliments about my hair, I always get a little flustered and self conscious about it :lol: I was teased growing up and I guess you never forget that stuff, you let it go, but it still stays with you a little.

Does anyone remember rat tails? An oh so lovely hair style of the 80s :lol: All my friends had rat tails and had them dyed black or blue. My mom wouldn't let me get one, but she took me to the salon and had them do a strip of pink underneath in the back. I thought I was really cool.

Susie- I love your artisticness, please don't take it away from us :lol: Sorry you had a sleepless night, insomnia is the worst. The scary movie probably didn't help, and were there nuggets invovled?? :lol:

OMGosh, I wouldn't be able to live with only a regular oven and no microwave :blink: I am soooo impatient that today at lunch, instead of sticking my meal in the oven like I probably should have....I stuck it in the microwave.

And Julie, I sure hope that those people who teased you weren't serious. Although, now that I think about it :huh: Mom teases me all the time, more jokingly than teasingly though. I'll ask her if my hair looks fine; she'll answer that it looks hidious; I'll thank her and we'll both move on :D .

Green12 Enthusiast
Green12
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Actually, everything is contagious in Rachelville

scientificness, artisticness, the constant ice cream eating...

Jean-Luc Rookie
Jean-Luc
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Actually, everything is contagious in Rachelville

scientificness, artisticness, the constant ice cream eating...

:lol::lol::lol:

Ok, no more talk about hair ... some of are lacking in that area :P

Rachel, sorry about the fender bender.

Vincent - good news, I am glad to hear your test went alright.

I am forgetting something --- brain fog and too much concentration on work stuff.

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
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OMGosh, I wouldn't be able to live with only a regular oven and no microwave :blink: I am soooo impatient that today at lunch, instead of sticking my meal in the oven like I probably should have....I stuck it in the microwave.

And Julie, I sure hope that those people who teased you weren't serious. Although, now that I think about it :huh: Mom teases me all the time, more jokingly than teasingly though. I'll ask her if my hair looks fine; she'll answer that it looks hidious; I'll thank her and we'll both move on :D .

On the other hand, I don't use the microwave hardly at all ... and when I remodel the kitchen next summer, we might not even have one. We didn't in our old house the whole 6 years we lived there. But this kitchen is pathetic and you find yourself using it more than you really want to.

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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Its almost always the foods we crave the most that are the ones causing problems.

I'm in trouble...

I wonder if we'll still be here when you're 52.....

I think maybe when you were 50 we were only a pajama party with a few giggly girls...

Now we are a whole cult farm paradise....

Who knows what we will be when you turn 52. :huh:

Yep, I think it was a pajama party, lol. I'm scared to think what it might become in a year considering this thread only started 4 months ago. :lol:

Donna....dont do it!!

3 days no nuggets??? WOOHOO! Wonder if I could last that long no ice cream??

All is safe for today I think...3 days without nuggets...very good my Susie friend!

Cashews contain alot of mold....

Okay, I AM allergic to mold...getting shots for it an everything. :ph34r:

Donna....I'm soooo very curious!

I'm sure whatever it was that you typed out.... probably would have made me spit out corn tortilla crumbs all over this computer screen. :lol:

Nah...I'm pretty tame, lol...it wasn't anything too bad. :P

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
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:lol::lol::lol:

Ok, no more talk about hair ... some of are lacking in that area :P

ROFL

VydorScope Proficient
VydorScope
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Vincent...I keep forgetting to ask about this....

I remember you posting way back in this thread that you're not Celiac????

I have been confused about that ever since. :unsure:

I thought that after doing the challenge and everything else....you had come to the conclusion that you were. What changed?? Timothy got his genes from someone. Didnt you say he was also IgA deficient???

Was it the blood sugar thing? I didnt follow that thread all the way through so maybe thats why I'm lost. :huh:

Also, you were nominated the Rahelville hero because of all you've done for Tanya, Megan and that whole family. You might not think its much but I'm sure Tanya would say the "hero" titled is warranted. :D

Btw...I need to review that thread. I havent heard a thing about Megan in days...I'm assuming she's at home now? Is she still doing well?

TCA has been posting updates to her thread on Megan, and on megan's we site... I'lllet you explore and read them.

No I do not have celiac disease. I prbly carry the genes for it, but after 2 bispoys, a few rounds of blood tests and a three seperate challenges... I am sure I do not have it. My problems have always been from they hypoglycemia which I did not discover until very late in the process.

Umm to equate it to celiac disease... Imagine if you contorl your celiac disease you had to eat a certin amount of gluten every day... too much and you get sick, to little and you get sick .. in addition you had to balance that gluten two different other foods, and as long as you kept it all in blance your fine.

Thats the over simplified version how it works, but instead of gluten I have to watch sugars (aka carbs), and balence them with fats and proteins.

I am eating mostly gluten-free cause I will not allow and gluten-food in our home. Ocassionaly we willeat out and I may or may not get a gluten food then. But thats realy about it.

Camille'sBigSister Newbie
Camille'sBigSister
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PP(premature post)

Interesting about the neutrophil thing.

Rinne,my son keeps getting boils (I suspect he's a coeliac and is waiting on blood results)

The slightest little pimple seems to end up as a full scale boil.

He currently has a nasty one on his leg,which started as an tiny yellow head.

Oh gosh,his poor leg got sooo red and inflamed (hot to touch too)

It's nearly healed now but has taken 2 weeks,anything takes forever to heal-and they seem to leave such large holes :unsure:

I can only think it's something to do with a comprimised immune system? :(

Reading on.......

Nikki, I think boils are caused by a staph infection. I got several a few weeks after the birth of one of my babies. Couldn't figure it out until I read that hospitals were having problems with patients getting staph infections, and someone finally figured out that most were caused by unclean operating rooms. True story. I still have 4 or 5 holes in my legs. The boils didn't pop up all at once, but one after the other. Finally got a shot of penicillin, which darn near killed me, but got rid of the infection.

My ob said there were staph germs everywhere, which is true, but I wasn't the only woman who came home with a new baby and a staph infection, though it didn't always manifest itself as boils. There was a minor epidemic, but doctors didn't want their patients to know about it. The medical profession tried to keep it hushed up.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with your son; it's just one of those historical oddities I teach at good old UCCF! :P:P:P I do hope his boils clear up soon!

Cissie

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Jean-Luc
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Hi bluejeangirl and gheidie. Welcome to Rachelville. Don't worry we do not bite ... well maybe the geese do from time to time

Now I remember ---

Penguin -- was it atleast good Vodka????

chloeb Newbie
chloeb
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My mom and my sister just wanted me to stop by and say hi. They get on here alot. Oh and by the way my name is chloe. :P

Jean-Luc Rookie
Jean-Luc
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Nikki, I think boils are caused by a staph infection. -- Cissie

I thinkone of our science whiz kids can answer this. But I will say, I had a severe staph infection in my knee ten years ago -- thought I was going to lose my leg! :unsure:

miamia Rookie
miamia
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REALLY, REALLY BAD NIGHT TONIGHT GUYS....... I am doubled over. When will this stop??????? :angry:

Signing off.....

Hugs to all,

Karen

Karen-

I am with you- everyday lately is pretty bad. i have been asking myself that same question- when will this stop? and more troublesome/ terrifying -Does this stop?

Miamia

Jean-Luc Rookie
Jean-Luc
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I can hear the pins dropping to the floor now.

Karen -- how are you, I hope you are feeling better today.

Anyone look at CNN -- wow!

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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My mom and my sister just wanted me to stop by and say hi. They get on here alot. Oh and by the way my name is chloe. :P

Hi Chloe!

Anyone look at CNN -- wow!

Not yet...going there now. :(

This is particularly unsettling:

"and a Heathrow Airport employee with an all-area access pass, according to Britain's Channel 4.

Five suspects in the plot are still at large, ABC News reported on its Web site, citing U.S. sources."

penguin Community Regular
penguin
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Day Is Done, Gone The Sun,

From The Lake, From The Hills, From The Sky,

All Is Well,

Safely Rest,

God Is Nigh,

Fading Light...Falling Night...

Trumpet Calls As The Sun Sinks In Flight

Sleep In Peace,

Comrades Dear...

God is Near.

:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

I need a sobbing emotion thingy.

Please God, please don't let me be the type of parent that exists (existed) in my troop. They've thrown a coup d'etat, and didn't bother to let me know until after they were done :(

They've taken 3/4 of the girls, but deny recruiting within the troop :unsure:

What's really wierd is that these are the same parents that were praising me just 3 short months ago...

Sorry to be a Downer, I hope everyone feels ok today.

mouse Enthusiast
mouse
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Hi Chloe, welcome to the Rachel thread.

Hi Karen, I hope you are doing a little better today. Always prayers and super wrapable hugs.

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      By knitty kitty · Posted

      Yes, I do think they need a Thiamine supplement at least. Especially since they eat red meat only occasionally. Most fruits and vegetables are not good sources of Thiamine.  Legumes (beans) do contain thiamine.  Fruits and veggies do have some of the other B vitamins, but thiamine B 1 and  Cobalamine B12 are mostly found in meats.  Meat, especially organ meats like liver, are the best sources of Thiamine, B12, and the six other B vitamins and important minerals like iron.   Thiamine has antibacterial and antiviral properties.  Thiamine is important to our immune systems.  We need more thiamine when we're physically ill or injured, when we're under stress emotionally, and when we exercise, especially outside in hot weather.  We need thiamine and other B vitamins like Niacin B 3 to keep our gastrointestinal tract healthy.  We can't store thiamine for very long.  We can get low in thiamine within three days.  Symptoms can appear suddenly when a high carbohydrate diet is consumed.  (Rice and beans are high in carbohydrates.)  A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function, so symptoms can wax and wane depending on what one eats.  The earliest symptoms like fatigue and anxiety are easily contributed to other things or life events and dismissed.   Correcting nutritional deficiencies needs to be done quickly, especially in children, so their growth isn't stunted.  Nutritional deficiencies can affect intelligence.  Vitamin D deficiency can cause short stature and poor bone formation.   Is your son taking anything for the anemia?  Is the anemia caused by B12 or iron deficiency?  
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