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tarnalberry Community Regular
tarnalberry
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Lets see Degree in General Math, Degree in Statistics, Degree in Comp Sci... nope not a number guy at all :lol:

I guess I need find my Aktins books, I forget what kinds of foods are complex carbs.......

I feel ya. I went to a small math/science college, majored in physics, and work in comp. sci. And while going gluten free is pretty logical ( if(gluten.quantity > 20ppm) BAD! ), dealing with the hypoglycemia stuff is simply not that cut and dry. And not even as clear cut as Atkins. It is similar to Atkins, though, in that you want to keep simple carbs down, the primary difference being that the exact numbers are unique to you. Once you figure out what those numbers are (downside: the numbers aren't exact, and can change depending on a number of factors including exercise levels, medications, and previous days/weeks diet), it's very similar to Atkins, but substituting your numbers for theirs.

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I have a freind thats a pharmasitics and does diabites trianing/awareness for ppl. I turst him. He said theres the drinking syrup test (he called it Oral Glucose Tolerance Test ) will not show hypoglycemic issues. Acording to him the only test is if I think I am have a "hypo event" to use a home glucose monitor and test my levels. If its low, I have "confirmantion". He is also sending me a meter he got as a samlpe in a trade show (he works in a dif state, far away). Of course the problem is, it be a week or 2 before I see it. Then I have to wait till I mess up the diet, and be at a place I can use the meter and have the meter! Some how I dont think I will ever get that test. :|

Welp I guess what it gets down to is aviod simple, high gylimica sugars, and limit complex ones. Make up for the calories with protien and fat, exply deep fried fat! (HEY, Im in the south! LOL) :D

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Welp I guess what it gets down to is aviod simple, high gylimica sugars, and limit complex ones. Make up for the calories with protien and fat, exply deep fried fat! (HEY, Im in the south! LOL) :D

I've never tested my levels, but my body tells me that I need food, and real food at that RIGHT NOW.

I have a political science degree and need a calculator for simple addition, can you tell? :lol:

I agree with Tiffany, a maintenence level Atkins thing makes a whole lot of sense, especially for a numbers thing. Oh, and a candy bar is ok sometimes, just don't eat high sugar stuff all the time. It's not like being gluten-free where you have to be militant about sugar or anything.

Personally, my method is, "I'm nauseous and shakey, I need to eat" It takes a lot of self training to make yourself eat when your tummy feels like crap, it works though.

VydorScope Proficient
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heheh Chelsea.

If this si right, then I likly have dairy again. It be nice ot have one less thing to worry about arond here...

VydorScope Proficient
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See heres my challenged, its 1030pm, and everyone is alseep.. and Im walking around looking for food.. cant cook anything... wht do my fellow hypo's eat at time like this?

tarnalberry Community Regular
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Why can't you cook? At a time like that, I'd eat (based on what's normally in my house):

eggs on rice cakes (or with rice)

peanut butter on rice cakes

peanut butter on an apple

a handful of almonds and a few dried apricots

raw carrots with homemade hummus (yes, I'd make hummus ;-) )

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Why can't you cook? At a time like that, I'd eat (based on what's normally in my house):

eggs on rice cakes (or with rice)

peanut butter on rice cakes

peanut butter on an apple

a handful of almonds and a few dried apricots

raw carrots with homemade hummus (yes, I'd make hummus ;-) )

Cause thou does not risk waking the sleeping monster of a toddler, or thoust may never sleep again! :blink:

What is hummus? :blink:

Hmm I got peanutbutter and apples, I'll try that! Then maybe I can get soem sleep.... :D

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If I'm awake in the middle of the night and can't sleep because I'm hungry, I just dive into the peanut butter jar with a spoon. Well, you asked.

tarnalberry Community Regular
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hummus is a bean dip - garbanzo beans, olive oil, tahini (sesame seed paste), and garlic. sometimes I'll make black bean dip instead (mmm... particularly with avocado!).

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Question, since rice is listed as a complex carb, dose that make gluten-free rice breads like this "Food For Life Brown Rice" one to be considered a complex carb?

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The yogurt is plain unsweetened. The toast is china black rice bread with no sweetners except pinepple. I may have a carb, but it is always with a protein. I can eat apples on there own without it bothering me. Yogurt is a good protein source if not sweetened with sugar. You could always sweeten it with stevia a natural sweetner that does not cause blood sugar to spike. I spend a lot of food! Almost all the food I eat is organic. It is the most important investment you make for your health.

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Cause thou does not risk waking the sleeping monster of a toddler, or thoust may never sleep again! :blink:

What is hummus? :blink:

Hmm I got peanutbutter and apples, I'll try that! Then maybe I can get soem sleep.... :D

Peanut butter does it for me! and get thee some hummus- it's good and good for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can eat it with carrots, crackers, tortilla chips. I used to hate it, now I'm addicted.

elye Community Regular
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I have a freind thats a pharmasitics and does diabites trianing/awareness for ppl. I turst him. He said theres the drinking syrup test (he called it Oral Glucose Tolerance Test ) will not show hypoglycemic issues. Acording to him the only test is if I think I am have a "hypo event" to use a home glucose monitor and test my levels. If its low, I have "confirmantion". He is also sending me a meter he got as a samlpe in a trade show (he works in a dif state, far away). Of course the problem is, it be a week or 2 before I see it. Then I have to wait till I mess up the diet, and be at a place I can use the meter and have the meter! Some how I dont think I will ever get that test. :|

Welp I guess what it gets down to is aviod simple, high gylimica sugars, and limit complex ones. Make up for the calories with protien and fat, exply deep fried fat! (HEY, Im in the south! LOL) :D

I'm really late entering this thread, and haven't read the last couple of pages closely, but as I was reading near the beginning I kept thinking, "Vydorscope, you need a home glucose monitor!" And then I read this quote of yours...so, you are on the right track. Listen, to hell with waiting two weeks for a machine--get to your drugstore and buy a glucose monitor. I use the Ascenzia Breeze model, but Glucometer is also a good brand. It will only run you about fifty bucks--nothing if it will give you a diagnosis. The strips are very expensive, but you'll only need a few. And it's good to have one of these kicking around the house regardless of what the outcome is...if glucose numbers are normal, you can put it away and test again in a year or so. There's no shelf life here. The pharmacist can tell you what numbers signify hypoglycemia, as can your pharmacist friend. I am hypoglycemic fairly regularly, as I am a tightly-controlled type one diabetic. You didn't mention whether or not you exercise regularly, but that is one time where you really do risk low blood sugars if you're hypo. But interestingly, resistance training can make blood sugars rise significantly and quickly. So hypoglycemics should lift weights every second day--may help to keep from dipping too low!

tarnalberry Community Regular
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the problem with relying on monitors is that they won't always tell you what your body is telling you. I've had my blood sugars tested at the doctors - both with the instant read monitors and with blood tests. they all tell me I'm on the low end of normal, but still well within standard ranges, no matter the test. the symptoms, and the results from following a blood-sugar aware diet, however, leave no doubt in my mind or my doctors mind, that I happen to be sensitive to swings in blood sugar. sometimes it's not just the numbers, but the changes. (|x| isn't so important, but delta(x) is, kinda thing.)

I'm certainly not saying not to check it with a monitor! Just that the numbers, in this case, are not the end-all, be-all. This is one of the times when hypoglycemia issues in diabetics and non-diabetics is very different. Of course, given the seriousness of the issue, it is WELL worthwhile to rule out diabetes at the start of all this.

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"Vydorscope, you need a home glucose monitor!" And then I read this quote of yours...so, you are on the right track. Listen, to hell with waiting two weeks for a machine--get to your drugstore and buy a glucose monitor. I use the Ascenzia Breeze model, but Glucometer is also a good brand. It will only run you about fifty bucks--nothing if it will give you a diagnosis.

If I had that kind of cash, I would. I did look in CVS the other day and they were alot closer to $100 then $50... not that it matters... tell you what, go buy 40 or 50 copies of my Open Original Shared Link, and I should be able to afford one :lol::lol::lol:

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If I had that kind of cash, I would. I did look in CVS the other day and they were alot closer to $100 then $50... not that it matters... tell you what, go buy 40 or 50 copies of my Open Original Shared Link, and I should be able to afford one :lol::lol::lol:

OKAY FINE I was a little wrong... bought one for $15 hehe. Now go see how it works (came with 10 strips...)

elye Community Regular
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Awesome! We await your results...with bated breath...(!)...

penguin Community Regular
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OKAY FINE I was a little wrong... bought one for $15 hehe. Now go see how it works (came with 10 strips...)

Well, there goes THAT excuse for my not buying one years ago <_<

Sticking myself gives me the willies :unsure:

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Okay I just did it ad got 80, but not in "hypo event" heh, so now... question is shoudl I try to create one.

penguin Community Regular
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Okay I just did it ad got 80, but not in "hypo event" heh, so now... question is shoudl I try to create one.

Eat sugar babies for breakfast and wait an hour. That'll do it.

It may be harder to have a hypo event this late in the day. Of course, you could just skip dinner, but I wouldn't reccommend it. Hypo episodes can be scary, especially if you're creating one for testing, don't want to terrify Tymber...

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Eat sugar babies for breakfast and wait an hour. That'll do it.

It may be harder to have a hypo event this late in the day. Of course, you could just skip dinner, but I wouldn't reccommend it. Hypo episodes can be scary, especially if you're creating one for testing, don't want to terrify Tymber...

LOL my denstist woudl love to hear that suggestion!

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Bought some peanuts and envirokids bars in case Im successfull in crashing LOL

penguin Community Regular
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Bought some peanuts and envirokids bars in case Im successfull in crashing LOL

I'm telling you, a coke or a juice box is your best friend during a crash. Eat the peanuts and (the amazingly sugary) envirokids bars after you get your sugar levels up a bit, but you're going to find it a challenge to eat ANYTHING, mid-crash.

If you're testing the crashing tomorrow morning, go to sonic first and get ye a coke :)

JMHO

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I'm telling you, a coke or a juice box is your best friend during a crash. Eat the peanuts and (the amazingly sugary) envirokids bars after you get your sugar levels up a bit, but you're going to find it a challenge to eat ANYTHING, mid-crash.

If you're testing the crashing tomorrow morning, go to sonic first and get ye a coke :)

JMHO

Sonic not open at 6am when I get to work....but I got some ROOT BEER.

Okay, whats the best way to assure this crash, a realy sugary breakfast right? Man tommorow gonna suck...

tarnalberry Community Regular
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the problem is, if you're a non-diabetic hypoglycemic, having primarily sugar during a crash only assures that you're going to have a worse crash in about an hour. if you're diabetic, it's the right way to go - I'm not disputing that, but if you're a non-diabetic hypoglycemic, it's worse - you need complex carbs WITH protein/fat, or it'll be worse. I love envirokids bars, but there's far too much sugar in them for me to eat them.

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