Crazy Idea Re: Casein Intolerance

[Felidae]

I know this sounds crazy, but I am determined to try everything when it comes to cheese. I am eating a little piece of cheese everyday to see if I can build up a tolerance. Just so you know, I would never do this with gluten! I will keep you guys posted as to if my little experiment works.

It must be my science background coming out, sample size of one is pretty bad though. I'm convocating next week with a BSc degree. Yay me.

[Girl Ninja]

Yay for your degree! Good luck with the cheese. Can that really work?

[gfp]

I would think that if your doing this to try and build up a tolerance to similar proteins using sheeps and goats cheeses... and then add a little casein ...

just my 2c

[tarnalberry]

Goats milk and sheeps milk both contain casein - even the forms of casein that are most highly prevalent in cows milk, though at a lower percentage. Still worth a try, but you're not avoiding casein that way. (You might also try buffalo milk cheese.)

[eKatherine]

It looks like I have no trouble eating goat's milk cheese, but sheep's milk cheese seems to bother me. Try goat's milk cheese. If it doesn't bother you, then just eat it instead.

[gfp]

Goats milk and sheeps milk both contain casein - even the forms of casein that are most highly prevalent in cows milk, though at a lower percentage. Still worth a try, but you're not avoiding casein that way. (You might also try buffalo milk cheese.)

oops sorry, i meant to be specific about cow casein since many people seem to have the issue with cow milk and not goat or sheep.

Summer is here and you have a selection from feta through goats cheeses in salads not to mention the buffalo mozerella ... and many sheep cheeses too ...

[mouse]

I am allergic to casein. But, I can eat hard cheddar goat cheese, but not the regular goat cheese. I don't remember who posted that the hard cheddar goat cheese does not have casein (Rachel?) But, I find that I can tolerate the hard cheddar. Of course I really have it very seldom, like maybe once a month.

[AndreaB]

I seem to have a mild allergy to all dairy except cheddar cheese. Don't know why that is, maybe because of the aging. I have added butter back into my diet though and will be using nonfat milk powder in recipes that call for it. Thinking this allergy (hoping) will go away since I'm on the gluten free diet now. I'm also allergic to goats milk but I didn't like that anyway.

[Mango04]

Careful while you reintroduce that stuff. I did the same thing and was fine with it for a while...then out of the blue one day I had a crazy intense reaction and almost lost my ability to breathe. I don't think we really build up a tolerance. I think it just kind of builds up in our body until it starts to do harm again. That's what happened to me anyway.

I am allergic to casein. But, I can eat hard cheddar goat cheese, but not the regular goat cheese. I don't remember who posted that the hard cheddar goat cheese does not have casein (Rachel?) But, I find that I can tolerate the hard cheddar. Of course I really have it very seldom, like maybe once a month.

Do you know what kind of goat cheddar? I thought the hard goat cheddar didn't have lactose. I tried hard goat cheddar and I had a cray casein reaction, but maybe I got the wrong kind.

[Felidae]

Well, I'm still eating Kraft swiss cheese everyday and I haven't had a problem yet. It could be that possible that I'm not casein intolerant anymore. One can always hope.

I tried goats cheese in the past and I got quite sick from it. But I may be okay with it now.

[Nancym]

Well, I'm still eating Kraft swiss cheese everyday and I haven't had a problem yet.

I think it is because they make it from petroleum products, not milk. At least, that's how it always tasted to me!

[corinne]

Cheese is casein! Rennet or other enzymes are used to convert caseinogen, a protein in milk, to casein which is water insoluble, and then separates out as curds from the liquid (whey). The curds (or collected casein) is then pressed to form cheese.

Hard cheese is very low in lactose which is why it is sometimes more digestible.

[Guest Robbin]

Glad you started this thread. The gluten free diet is much easier for me than the dairy. I have wondered about maybe trying the fat-type dairy products that don't have as much protein like whipped cream, butter, and sour cream. I don't think I've healed enough to "rock the boat" yet, though. I am interested in your progress in this experiment. Keep us posted!! Congratulations on the degree too!

[taz sharratt]

Glad you started this thread. The gluten free diet is much easier for me than the dairy. I have wondered about maybe trying the fat-type dairy products that don't have as much protein like whipped cream, butter, and sour cream. I don't think I've healed enough to "rock the boat" yet, though. I am interested in your progress in this experiment. Keep us posted!! Congratulations on the degree too!

im glad you started this thread, im also lactose inolerant and confused about what i can and cant eat, i thought all dairy was out but now it sounds like i may be able to have hard cheese, i miss strong mature hard cheese, but tell me is casien the same as lactose its unclear from the thread?

[eKatherine]

im glad you started this thread, im also lactose inolerant and confused about what i can and cant eat, i thought all dairy was out but now it sounds like i may be able to have hard cheese, i miss strong mature hard cheese, but tell me is casien the same as lactose its unclear from the thread?

Casein is milk protein. Lactose is milk sugar. Most lactose drains away in the making of cheese, and the rest may go away in the aging of it, but casein is forever. Try it and see if it works for you.

[StrongerToday]

I'm proud to say I've been dabbling w/ dairy for a little bit now and seem to be doing ok. I eat the garlic/basil goat cheese on Knickknick pizza - YUM! and I found a goat's milk cheddar (reminds me of a Vermont Sharp White Cheddar that's good too. I've had a little dairy (garlic mashed potatoes at a restaraunt) and a piece of American cheese on my eggs... forgotton how much I'd missed that!

Next step: real cheddar or maybe mozzerella... already drooling!

[Felidae]

im glad you started this thread, im also lactose inolerant and confused about what i can and cant eat, i thought all dairy was out but now it sounds like i may be able to have hard cheese, i miss strong mature hard cheese, but tell me is casien the same as lactose its unclear from the thread?

Casein is in all dairy. Lactose is very low or absent in hard cheeses. So if you eat hard cheese with no ill effects you may be only lactose intolerant.

It's been one year since I went gluten-free, so it could be that I have simply healed enough to handle cheese again. Time will tell, but so far so good. I'm not ready to try any other brand or type of cheese yet (just in case).