This Is Strange...

[Ashley]

I just downed a small bowl full of grapes and a half of a kinnikinnick cinnamon sugar doughnut, which are gluten-free 'course. My stomach is hurting so bad, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't the grapes. Anyone else not respond well to kinnikinnick? This bag confuses me, but, I think these are casein-free too ( I have had problems with diary, especially when I was a baby. I absolutely refuse to cut out dairy, I have a hard enough time with Celiac. I'd only cut it out if it did damage like Celiac. I do moderation with milk. Yeah I'm a hard head )

-Ash

[CarlaB]

I had a Kinnikinnick donut this morning with no problems. I have a problem with casein, and feel much better and less bloated off the dairy. You might give it a try for week and see if it makes a difference. I buried my head in the sand for while ... but stopped getting better, so just cut it out a week ago. BIG difference

I do better with fruit if I eat it on an empty stomach, especially something as watery as grapes. If I ate them first, then ate the donut a little while later, I'd be fine. If I ate them with the donut or after, it might bother me. Watermelon and cantelope are the worst for this ... I can only eat them on an empty stomach.

[Ashley]

I guess that would be helpful. My nutritrionist told me to add some yogurt in my diet (I can't even remember why now), and mostly avoid dairy for the most part. I don't get much, but this doughnut set my stomach on fire, I'm still hurting. Guess I'd be willing to try it for a week.

Thanks Carla

[CarlaB]

I guess that would be helpful. My nutritrionist told me to add some yogurt in my diet (I can't even remember why now), and mostly avoid dairy for the most part. I don't get much, but this doughnut set my stomach on fire, I'm still hurting. Guess I'd be willing to try it for a week.

Thanks Carla

I think I was more upset about the casein than the gluten ... I just love butter, kifir, and ice cream. But, I'm doing okay with it ... I've even been off coffee for the week since I like my half and half with it. Good luck with it ... let me know how it goes. I was in total denial, but if I look back, most of the times I thought I was glutened by cc, I had dairy. I don't think the donuts have dairy ... but I had one with plain white frosting.

If you can tolerate dairy, yogurt is very good for building the good bacteria in your intestines.

[Lister]

yeah i was gonna say that, yogurt supposdly really helps your stomic with healing, dont know personaly still avoiding dairy until i have a day to set aside incase i get sick from it. trying it on my birthday hope it dont ruin it.

you really should cut out the dairy for a bit as hard as it is, it will give your body a easyer healing time. also do you drink lots of liquid when you eat? you should eat with only a few sips of liquid and then finish the glass 2 minutes afterwards to prevent stomic cramps

[lorka150]

are you sensitive to sulphites? grapes are naturally high in them.

[Ashley]

Carla- Thanks, absolutely will let ya know. Maybe that's my case. No matter what I do, I cannot get rid of this bloating...

Lister- That's what that nutritrionist lady told me! Love my memory. Really? I usually drink more liquid than what I eat will give that a try.

Lorka- Not that I know of.

-Ash

[skoki-mom]

My sister (who has celiac disease, like me) has a lot of trouble with sulphites. Grapes are loaded with sulphites before they come off the vine. Just a thought. Hope you feel better.

My sister (who has celiac disease, like me) has a lot of trouble with sulphites. Grapes are loaded with sulphites before they come off the vine. Just a thought. Hope you feel better.

Oops. Should have read lorkas response first!

[penguin]

Could have been a couple of things:

1: grapes have a lot of sugar, it may have been a sugar problem if you ate a bunch of them. I know that would bother me!

2: Are the kinnikinnik donuts fried? I can't imagine what obscure flours and oil would do to my stomach, eep!

3: A combination of both

4: you just feel sicky today?

Feel better!

[2kids4me]

kinnikinnik has a habit of changing the flour combo every once in a while. A celaic I know is sensitive to pea flour and any of their products with peas flour make her bloat up, gives her a headache and stomach ache.

Any sensitivity to peas?

[Mango04]

Kinnickinnick makes me sick sometimes for no apparant reason...

[Rachel--24]

I'm going to say the same thing others have already said about the grapes and sulfites. Do you normally eat grapes w/ no problems? I react to sulfites and cant handle any grapes. All grapes are loaded with sufites...as someone already mentioned.

[eKatherine]

If I ate a bowl of grapes on an empty stomach, it would give me D and the shakes, and I'm not sensitive to sulfites.

[gfp]

If I ate a bowl of grapes on an empty stomach, it would give me D and the shakes, and I'm not sensitive to sulfites.

LOL

True, eating lots of fruit is always a good way to clear yourself out...

As a kid that grew up in the countryside I would regualrly find a cherry tree or fruit bushes and eat lots and oif course this produces belly ache and D in everyone.

I don't know about kinnikinnik but I know lots of gluten-free stuff is full of just about everything else.

[jerseyangel]

I can't eat the K products (or any other processed gluten-free baked goods) because I'm sensitive to tapioca and legumes--they tend to use those flours a lot. Not to mention the rice

[rinne]

I see now that I have many sensitivities and that they are all related. The sulphites they spray on grapes is toxic to many people, over ten years ago I found that I could no longer drink red wine without triggering a migraine. So, I wonder if it was the grapes.

I hear you about the cheese. I seriously did not want to give up cheese and cream and butter but I finally had to acknowledge it was making me feel sick. The truth is I am now sick enough that I don't miss the things that hurt me.

[lorka150]

grapes naturally produce sulphites.

[Rachel--24]

grapes naturally produce sulphites.

All grapes are also sprayed with sulphites. I believe spraying sulphites on fresh produce has been banned with the exception of grapes and fresh cut potatoes. Some people died from consuming salad bar foods that had been sprayed with sulphites so it is now illegal...although it is still done occasionally....illegally.

[loraleena]

Hi,

If you don't want to completely give up dairy I would suggest eating raw dairy. You can get cheeses at Whole foods and milk from some local farms. I also eat a wonderful water buffalo yogurt that is gentler on the stomach. Many people are lactose intolerant because of the pasterization and homogenization of dairy. It kills all the enzymes we need to digest it. I can tolerate raw but not pasterized. The cheeses are yummy and taste better than regular cheeses. Read about the dangers of pasterization and homogenization on the web. If casein is an issue than raw probably won't help. You could try goat and sheep dairy which is better for you anyway.

[Ashley]

Grapes are a normal part of my diet. I at least eat them around three times a week. Never had a problem with them.

They took one of those prickley things on my arm for food sensitivies while they did needles for other allergies when I got tested for getting shots. My nutrientist told me that those tests aren't very acturate. Peas did show up, but, those are normal in my diet too.

I'll try all these suggestions when I can. I went to the ER last night. I had an asthma attack or hyperventilation, they can't say for sure. Back musle spasms happened, my face, above my eyes, lips and hands turned blue and I l ost feeling. Before that, I went to my post-op for sinus surgery and they had to break scaring trying to form over the cuts they made. It hurt like a lot of things I shouldn't say. I'm miserable right now and just need prayers.

-Ash

[jerseyangel]

Oh Ashley, I'm sorry! Feel better soon--I'm saying a little prayer for you right now

[queenofhearts]

Grapes are a normal part of my diet. I at least eat them around three times a week. Never had a problem with them.

They took one of those prickley things on my arm for food sensitivies while they did needles for other allergies when I got tested for getting shots. My nutrientist told me that those tests aren't very acturate. Peas did show up, but, those are normal in my diet too.

I'll try all these suggestions when I can. I went to the ER last night. I had an asthma attack or hyperventilation, they can't say for sure. Back musle spasms happened, my face, above my eyes, lips and hands turned blue and I l ost feeling. Before that, I went to my post-op for sinus surgery and they had to break scaring trying to form over the cuts they made. It hurt like a lot of things I shouldn't say. I'm miserable right now and just need prayers.

-Ash

What an ordeal, Ashley! I hope you are feeling much better now. You know we are all rooting for you.

Leah

[gfp]

Hi,

If you don't want to completely give up dairy I would suggest eating raw dairy. You can get cheeses at Whole foods and milk from some local farms. I also eat a wonderful water buffalo yogurt that is gentler on the stomach. Many people are lactose intolerant because of the pasterization and homogenization of dairy. It kills all the enzymes we need to digest it. I can tolerate raw but not pasterized. The cheeses are yummy and taste better than regular cheeses. Read about the dangers of pasterization and homogenization on the web. If casein is an issue than raw probably won't help. You could try goat and sheep dairy which is better for you anyway.

I gotta agree.

I only (mainly) eat raw cheeses and mainly buffalo, goat or sheep.

In addition to this you also get a lot of pro-biotics natually ... one specific oner is found in the stomachs of cows and sheep and of course is part of the rennet in a real cheese but pasturising kills them off.

There is a probitic thread somewhere which specifally mentoins this particular beasty...

[indyceliac]

I got really nauseous after eating a kinnikinick chocolate donut. It was on an empty stomach and I figured it was just from way too much sugar.. (I have blood sugar issues too). No more donuts for me.

[evie]

I can't eat the K products (or any other processed gluten-free baked goods) because I'm sensitive to tapioca and legumes--they tend to use those flours a lot. Not to mention the rice

Jersey..have you been allergic to rice long? I was found to be allergic to rice a few months before I knew I am c eliac. I have a slight hope I will over come that, do you think that will be possible? Just wishful tninking maybe. I believe I do better doing my own baking/ my choice of flours and etc. i have some new ones need to try soon. Stay well, evie