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Casin Sensitivity

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What symptoms do you experience with the casin sensitivity? I think I have a casin intorlerance or sensitivity as whenever I have milk I get bloating and my stomatch hurts a little and I feel like throwing up.

Thanks!

Beth

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I had the same symptoms as gluten. I kept thinking I was getting cc or something. Brain fog, diarrhea, bloating (in fact, my fingers are smaller now that I'm off dairy), constipation.

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What symptoms do you experience with the casin sensitivity? I think I have a casin intorlerance or sensitivity as whenever I have milk I get bloating and my stomatch hurts a little and I feel like throwing up.

Thanks!

Beth

I get rashes on my hands and arms.

Jeanne

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Felidae
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I get bloating, gas, and diarrhea.

burdee Enthusiast
burdee
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I get sinus congestion (and every cold turns into a sinus infection), constipation, bloating, gas and excruciating intestinal pains which come in waves and feel like severe menstrual cramps.

BURDEE

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I get swelling of my hands, feet, and ankles.

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dlp252
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I get sinus congestion (and every cold turns into a sinus infection), constipation, bloating, gas and excruciating intestinal pains which come in waves and feel like severe menstrual cramps.

BURDEE

DITTO!!! And since going gluten/casein free haven't had a sinus infection. I still get the intestinal pains but not nearly as much, but then I'm not really careful about cross-contamination on the casein side...gluten yes, but not casein so much.

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aikiducky Apprentice
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I get more or less the same symptoms as from gluten. Yours could also be from just lactose, milk sugar. You could try some milk with Lactaid and see if you still get symptoms.

Pauliina

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What exactly is casein? It seems to be lactose related?? I have been having many of these symptoms too. Is this something else to get tested for or is it a trial and error thing?

Thanks!!

eKatherine Apprentice
eKatherine
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What exactly is casein? It seems to be lactose related?? I have been having many of these symptoms too. Is this something else to get tested for or is it a trial and error thing?

Thanks!!

Casein is the main protein in cow's milk. Lactose is milk sugar. While you can have a dairy product with no lactose - like a hard, aged cheese - or with no casein - clarified butter - generally they have both in them.

Give dairy up for a week to see how you feel. Even if you have yourself tested and come up negative, you may still find heath improvements from eliminating it from your diet. It's what makes you healthier that matters, not some numbers on a sheet.

frenchiemama Collaborator
frenchiemama
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I'm not sure if it's specifically casien that is my problem, but dairy makes my eczema flare up.

junevarn Rookie
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I get diarrhea, start vomiting, shaking and then start to have trouble breathing. I have to take benadryl and ant-inausea medication to make it stop. If I don't it lasts 6 hours. :(

Take care,

June :lol:

taz sharratt Enthusiast
taz sharratt
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What symptoms do you experience with the casin sensitivity? I think I have a casin intorlerance or sensitivity as whenever I have milk I get bloating and my stomatch hurts a little and I feel like throwing up.

Thanks!

Beth

basically they can be the same as if you have been glutend, well they are for me anyway. the D is a bad one for me, although when i get glutend i tend to suffer with C which is strange. i suffer with the D and C when glutend but more C when glutend

jenvan Collaborator
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For me, constipation and brain fog. For me, brain fog was not caused by gluten...but dairy. I've confirmed this several times. Accidentally had dairy last week :( and the brain fog returned like clockwork.

chick2ba Apprentice
chick2ba
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I would get painful bloating and waves of nausea + soft stools almost exactly 2 hrs after ingesting dairy. I kept thinking I was getting 'gluten poisoning', too. Going off dairy made a HUGE difference.

To test if casein or lactose, I fould some gluten-free and soy-free 'cheese' (I think from galaxy nutritional foods; rice shreds). It happened to list casein right in the ingredients, but claimed to be almost totally lactose-fee.

Hope you figure it out soon.

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