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- rei.b replied to rei.b's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms13High DGP-A with normal IGA
Okay well the info about TTG-A actually makes a lot of sense and I wish the PA had explained that to me. But yes, I would assume I would have intestinal damage from eating a lot of gluten for 32 years while having all these symptoms. As far as avoiding gluten foods - I was definitely not doing that. Bread, pasta, quesadillas (with flour tortillas) and... -
- knitty kitty replied to rei.b's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms13High DGP-A with normal IGA
So you're saying that you think you should have severe intestinal damage since you've had the symptoms so long? DGP IgG antibodies are produced in response to a partial gluten molecule. This is different than what tissue transglutaminase antibodies are produced in response to. TTg IgA antibodies are produced in the intestines in response to...- 1
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- rei.b replied to rei.b's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms13
High DGP-A with normal IGA
I was tested for celiac at the same time, so I wasn't taking naltrexone yet. I say that, because I don't. The endoscopy showed some mild inflammation but was inconclusive as to celiac disease. They took several biopsies and that's all that was shown. I was not given a Marsh score. -
- knitty kitty replied to rei.b's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms13
High DGP-A with normal IGA
Food and environmental allergies involve IgE antibodies. IgE antibodies provoke histamine release from mast cells. Celiac disease is not always visible to the naked eye during endoscopy. Much of the damage is microscopic and patchy or out of reach of the scope. Did they take any biopsies of your small intestine for a pathologist to examine? Were... -
- rei.b replied to rei.b's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms13
High DGP-A with normal IGA
I was tested for food allergies and environmental allergies about 7 months before I started taking Naltrexone, so I don't think that is the cause for me, but that's interesting! The main thing with the celiac thing that is throwing me off is these symptoms are lifelong, but I don't have intestinal damage to correlate with lifelong undiagnosed celiac...
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Okay well the info about TTG-A actually makes a lot of sense and I wish the PA had explained that to me. But yes, I would assume I would have intestinal damage from eating a lot of gluten for 32 years while having all these symptoms. As far as avoiding gluten foods - I was definitely not doing that. Bread, pasta, quesadillas (with flour tortillas) and crackers are my 4 favorite foods and I ate at least one of those things multiple times a day e.g. breakfast with eggs and toast, a cheese quesadilla for lunch, and pasta for dinner, and crackers and cheese as a before bed snack. I'm not even kidding. I'm not really big on sugar, so I don't really do sweets. I don't have any of those conditions. I am not sure if I have the genes or not. When the geneticist did my genetic testing for EDS this year, I didn't think to ask for him to request the celiac genes so they didn't test for them, unfortunately. I guess another expectation I had is that if gluten was the issue, the gluten-free diet would make me feel better, and I'm 3 months in and that hasn't been the case. I am being very careful and reading every label because I didn't want to screw this up and have to do gluten-free for longer than necessary if I end up not having celiac. I'm literally checking everything, even tea and anything else prepacked like caramel dip. Honestly its making me anxious 😅
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By knitty kitty · Posted
So you're saying that you think you should have severe intestinal damage since you've had the symptoms so long? DGP IgG antibodies are produced in response to a partial gluten molecule. This is different than what tissue transglutaminase antibodies are produced in response to. TTg IgA antibodies are produced in the intestines in response to gluten. The tTg IgA antibodies attack our own cells because a structural component in our cell membranes resembles a part of gluten. There's a correlation between the level of intestinal damage with the level of tTg antibodies produced. You are not producing a high number of tTg IgA antibodies, so your level of tissue damage in your intestines is not very bad. Be thankful. There may be reasons why you are not producing a high quantity of tTg IgA antibodies. Consuming ten grams or more of gluten a day for two weeks to two months before blood tests are done is required to get sufficient antibody production and damage to the intestines. Some undiagnosed people tend to subconsciously avoid lots of gluten. Cookies and cakes do not contain as much gluten as artisan breads and thick chewy pizza crust. Anemia, diabetes and thiamine deficiency can affect IgA antibody production as well. Do you carry genes for Celiac? They frequently go along with EDS. -
I was tested for celiac at the same time, so I wasn't taking naltrexone yet. I say that, because I don't. The endoscopy showed some mild inflammation but was inconclusive as to celiac disease. They took several biopsies and that's all that was shown. I was not given a Marsh score.
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By knitty kitty · Posted
Food and environmental allergies involve IgE antibodies. IgE antibodies provoke histamine release from mast cells. Celiac disease is not always visible to the naked eye during endoscopy. Much of the damage is microscopic and patchy or out of reach of the scope. Did they take any biopsies of your small intestine for a pathologist to examine? Were you given a Marsh score? Why do you say you "don't have intestinal damage to correlate with lifelong undiagnosed celiac disease"? Just curious. -
I was tested for food allergies and environmental allergies about 7 months before I started taking Naltrexone, so I don't think that is the cause for me, but that's interesting! The main thing with the celiac thing that is throwing me off is these symptoms are lifelong, but I don't have intestinal damage to correlate with lifelong undiagnosed celiac disease.
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