Candida Diet

[moldlady]

Hi Lisa,

Sounds like you have lots of inflammation going on... So you have been gluten free how long? And, that didn't take care of everything right? Have you checked into heavy metals? Fungus/candida can take advantage of a weakened immune system for whatever reason. Get off all sugars and flours that will feed fungus. Limit fruits to berries, granny smith apples, and grapefruit. Do your own green juicing if you can because it is a great detoxer. Detox baths or saunas are great too. Taking antifungals and supplementing with probiotics are almost a normal routine around here.

There is so much more.... ask away......

moldlady

[scotty]

Scotty, the symptoms of your bladder sound like Intersticial Cytstitis. A lot of us have that on here. It is an autoimmune condition affecting the bladder. I however believe it is candida related. Maybe you are having die off in your bladder. check out the intersticial cystitis thread on related conditions.

loraleena,

i think you were the original person on this site to tell me that...i have avoided many foods and eliminated many other possibilities due to that...thanks again. i just can't believe you are the only to ever tell me that; most folks say it is diabetes over and over i hear that

[num1habsfan]

Hi Lisa,

Sounds like you have lots of inflammation going on... So you have been gluten free how long? And, that didn't take care of everything right? Have you checked into heavy metals? Fungus/candida can take advantage of a weakened immune system for whatever reason. Get off all sugars and flours that will feed fungus. Limit fruits to berries, granny smith apples, and grapefruit. Do your own green juicing if you can because it is a great detoxer. Detox baths or saunas are great too. Taking antifungals and supplementing with probiotics are almost a normal routine around here.

There is so much more.... ask away......

moldlady

No problems of not responding to gluten-free, more so everything else. its now gluten, dairy, meats, fatty food, veggies that get me the most. Also the Crohn's diet says no fruit with skin. So as it is, I eat mainly rice...

I've been gluten free for 5 years now, but had the new problems for just over 2 years.

So you believe those meds I was on before, the antifungals, would work if I get them again??

~ Lisa ~

[scotty]

So as it is, I eat mainly rice...

woah!! theres yoru problem i am guessing. if, if your anything like me i was down to only rice cuz it was the only thing my stomach could tolerate, but aat the same time i kept eating and eating it and everytime i felt slightly more 'clogged' got t othe point you know that tingly flu-like feeling you get, felt like i was feeding myself that!! little by little. what you gotta do and it seems like you have everything so not sure what you have (will read signature in a sec--wanted to respond swiflty ) what you need to do--what i did say is went straight veggies and meats. it destroyed me at first; but for the most part destroyed the candida. you will be amazed how much different you feel. go about a week 2, 3, maybe a month like this then start adding in supplements and keeping with the same diet. yea your gonna lose weight and feel like crap, but......don't you already feel that way. thats how i look at it. so i figure why not make the candida feel that way. again i guess i should see what your dealing with, my advice may be absolute, i mean obsolete

[scotty]

and by the way

GO WINGS!!!

[loraleena]

No, Go Flyers!

and RED SOX!

[loraleena]

No, Go Flyers!

and RED SOX!

[Nyxie63]

To miso, or not to miso.... that is the question.

I've read differing opinions on miso and would like yours.

Some say that miso is "beneficial" bacteria and therefore ok. Other sources say its a huge no-no.

What's a girl to do?

Any input? Thanks!

[num1habsfan]

woah!! theres yoru problem i am guessing. if, if your anything like me i was down to only rice cuz it was the only thing my stomach could tolerate, but aat the same time i kept eating and eating it and everytime i felt slightly more 'clogged' got t othe point you know that tingly flu-like feeling you get, felt like i was feeding myself that!! little by little. what you gotta do and it seems like you have everything so not sure what you have (will read signature in a sec--wanted to respond swiflty ) what you need to do--what i did say is went straight veggies and meats. it destroyed me at first; but for the most part destroyed the candida. you will be amazed how much different you feel. go about a week 2, 3, maybe a month like this then start adding in supplements and keeping with the same diet. yea your gonna lose weight and feel like crap, but......don't you already feel that way. thats how i look at it. so i figure why not make the candida feel that way. again i guess i should see what your dealing with, my advice may be absolute, i mean obsolete

I would go back to the meat and veggies, since i have done some research online about Candida and those are listed as things that should help it. But I've finally reached the point where avoiding those has been keeping me out of the hospital from my IBD. I still feel the pains on a daily basis since I've yet to be diagnosed, but my flareups are back to only once a month and I havent been sent to the hospital because of them since December. I am sure by now my total ER visits in the last 2 years is close to 25 now, if that gives you an idea. And its eliminated the meat/veggies that have been helping it. I wish there was an easy way around it

~ Lisa ~

[moldlady]

No problems of not responding to gluten-free, more so everything else. its now gluten, dairy, meats, fatty food, veggies that get me the most. Also the Crohn's diet says no fruit with skin. So as it is, I eat mainly rice...

I've been gluten free for 5 years now, but had the new problems for just over 2 years.

So you believe those meds I was on before, the antifungals, would work if I get them again??

~ Lisa ~

Hi Lisa,

If you stay away from what feeds the fungus/yeast and gluten free, yes the antifungals should work. But if they do not, you may have some heavy metal issues.

Many variables to consider and it is difficult but keep trying.

ML

[moldlady]

To miso, or not to miso.... that is the question.

I've read differing opinions on miso and would like yours.

Some say that miso is "beneficial" bacteria and therefore ok. Other sources say its a huge no-no.

What's a girl to do?

Any input? Thanks!

Hi Nyxie,

Miso is a traditional Japanese food produced by fermenting rice, barley and/or soybeans, with salt and the mold kōjikin (the most typical miso is made with soy).

Because I'm the moldlady I would say that anything fermented with mold is a no go. I had some once not knowing, about 15 years ago and got really really sick.

Travel at your own risk....

Moldlady

[scotty]

I would go back to the meat and veggies, since i have done some research online about Candida and those are listed as things that should help it. But I've finally reached the point where avoiding those has been keeping me out of the hospital from my IBD. I still feel the pains on a daily basis since I've yet to be diagnosed, but my flareups are back to only once a month and I havent been sent to the hospital because of them since December. I am sure by now my total ER visits in the last 2 years is close to 25 now, if that gives you an idea. And its eliminated the meat/veggies that have been helping it. I wish there was an easy way around it

~ Lisa ~

alright then. thats sort of a different catch-22 then i am used to. i can't really offer any suggestions for that. though i did just read that probiotics seem to help IBD. how have you come to know it is IBD? just curious as i am ignorant to the disorder.

how does the rice make you feel? can you do other grains? i have come to an understanding that white is bad; so brown rice? which are you eating? i had multiple problems similar to other digestive disorders and noticed when i got to bare minimums, all organic nothing packaged (fish and caulflower here) that seemed to clear the other things up for the most part. but i had to go through a terrible cleansing period. not as long as the Wings' drought til Yzerman and the boys hoisted that first cup of many in '97, but you get my drift. you know...that the Wings are just the sweetest still, i guess is what i am saying here.

but seriuosly (they are...) i can't do most veggies and at first they tore me (the candida) apart.........

[bluejeangirl]

Hello everyone

My test results from my new dr came back - my adrenals are almost totally exhausted and my candida antibodies were off the scale So I guess I'm going to be hanging around this thread lol!

Is there anyone here on the diet who has problems keeping weight on? That's me and whenever I've tried elimination or anti-candida diets in the past, Ive lost weight really quickly due to the low amounts of starch, despite eating loads of allowed foods. Any ideas would be appreciated!

Thanks

Susie

Hi Susie.......I also have the problem of trying to keep weight on while being on a candida control diet. The only diet, for me at least, is to go low carb. which starves yeast. I think going Paleo is the best because it makes it so easy to not have to consider what grains to eat or how to make bread without yeast etc. The only problems is this is usually a weight loss diet. Like you that makes it hard because I don't want to lose any weight.

My adrenals are pretty shot too from having panic disorder for a long long time before I discovered it was gluten and MSG that was giving me the panic attacks. But I would have them everyday and for awhile I would avoid crowds and closed rooms. I spend over 20 years like this. I'm sure the stress caused alot of the gut damage as well as eating the wrong foods like gluten and sweets. And oh beer!

Anyway I want to let you know I'm in the same boat, I need to be on this diet but stay stable in my weight. I've gained weight since christmas and have been getting comments on how well I look. I hate the thought of losing it now.

I'm thinking to do about 20 to 30 grams of carbs a meal (complex whole grain brown rice or quinoa maybe oats for grains). Then one or two snacks to keep energy levels up for the adrenals. The protein will be alittle higher then what I'm used to to make up for the calories.

Is that alot different then what your used to eating now? Do you have to eat out for lunch or pack one? What do you eat now to keep your weight on?

Gail

[covsooze]

Hi Gail

I've only just started getting back on track with my diet, although even now it's nowhere near as strict as it could be, coz I've been quite poorly for the past week with a throat infection, so haven't been able to shop for the right stuff.

I'm having more carbs than you suggest. It's difficult being coeliac and on the diet as that limits options. Also, brown rice does not suit my stomach at all and I've not tried oats since being gluten-free. As I'm very sensitive to gluten, I don't want to risk it. I generally eat quite a lot of potatoes, so am cutting those down at the moment, with a view to cutting them out completely when I've figured out what I'm doing!

I do packed lunches anyway because of my food sensitivities, so I just need to change what I'm taking.

Mornings are hardest for me - I eat constantly through the morning. So it's finding snacks that are OK that's one of my biggest issues. My snacks previously were what would ordinarily be healthy - fruits, cereal bars etc. I can eat a small amount of nuts, but have to be very careful there and I guess they're ultimately a mold issue anyway. I'm thinking I'll have to change to having 2 'lunches' instead, although that's not so easy when at work! Raw veg is a very limited option as my stomach doesn't cope well with raw stuff. I suppose another option is pureed veg (baby food lol!) but again that's a bit awkward at work - my office is open plan, so we aren't really 'allowed' to heat up food except at lunch time. I'll have to see if cold pureed veg is yummy!!

What do you do for snacks?

Previously, the only way I've been able to keep weight on is by eating gluten-free cakes and biscuits and chocolate on top of a high calorie healthy diet I'm having various tests run to check my enzymes, villi etc and my dr says the adrenal issue plays a large part in not being able to absorb food properly & gain weight.

What are you doing for your adrenals? My dr has me on an adrenal support which is basically bovine adrenal + vitamins, esp B vits. I'm probably also going to have to have more support for my thyroid.

I've been reading an interesting book about a dr who spent time at the SOuth Pole, and she said that if our core body temperatures drop by even a small amount (say to 36C) then our enzymes don't work properly. I've not researched this, but it made me realise how important body temperature is - with our adrenals (and thyroids) out of whack, it's not surprising we have so many digestive issues.

Susie

[Nyxie63]

Moldlady,

Thanks! All I could find when I looked was "cultured" but couldn't find out with what.

If you don't mind, I have another question. Sorry if it's TMI.

Yesterday was Day 4 of being on the candida diet. It was also the day my body decided to "flush" itself.... literally. I couldn't go an hour without having to run to the bathroom. And it wasn't just pee - must have had 6-7 bm's yesterday too.

I haven't been drinking much more than usual, largely because I drink a lot anyway (close to a gallon daily). I'm on caprylic acid and probiotics per my dr. I also quit smoking the same day I started the diet. Figured I might as well get all the cravings out of the way.

Apparently had a huge die-off on Thursday night. Think it would be related to the flush? Is this kind of "flush" normal? Do you think its detox or could it be a reaction to the caprylic acid/probiotics? I don't mind the cleansing. Would like to know just how common this kind of thing is.

Thanks!

[covsooze]

Nyxie, I don't know if it's reaction or die-off, but I've had that today as well. I was wondering about it being the probiotics too, so will be interested to read any responses. Good luck with the diet

Susie

[Nyxie63]

Hi Susie

At least its nice to know I'm not the only one who's had this. And it looks like today is going to be like yesterday. Will probably do ecoffee this afternoon and see if that helps.

How long have you been on the diet?

[covsooze]

I satrted the same time as you However, I haven't been as strict as I could be, as I'm poorly with a throat infection so haven't been able to get out to go shopping. My dr prescribed flucanazole - 1 a week for 4 weeks. Thereafter a rotation of natural anti-fungals. I think the flucanazole is quite strong. Die-off combined with an infection is not nice, but it's interesting that my throat was better the day after I took the flucanazole. Just feel like I have flu now...

I won't be joining you for the e-coffee if you don't mind Can't stand the idea!! I need to ask DH to buy some epsom salts on his way home from work so I can have a good detox bath this evening.

[Nyxie63]

Sorry about your throat bug. All of that at one time! Ack!

I've been really strict so far, probably more than I need to be. Never realized just how much of my diet was carb-based, even if it was fairly natural. My doc wanted me to cut out all carb sources, but she said things like mustard and mushrooms were ok. Hrmm....

So, of course, I stocked up on fruit the day before seeing the dr and getting the test results. Fruit overload! Might cut it up and freeze it.

LOL! Don't think e-coffee is a group activity anyway. Might scrub down the tub today and try a detox bath too. Wonder if going on a veggie juice fast for a couple of days would help to clean things out?

[scotty]

i'm still "flushing" after 8 months of trial and error. are you still taking in carbs? that was the most trouble for me. it's like they wont allow anything to absorb and one little wrong food item that does not agree will engulf me with candida. when i get a good balance; say after i get to a point where i hardly "go" at all...then i can add carbs again. i keep running into deadends though; stuff i just cannot eat, but sometimes seems like i can. it's weird. i dont get the rumbly hunger as much though anymore (when i am "flushing"). i dont get the sunken sore cheeks either. of course i dont get to eat as much. the wildest part is this: after a good flush in the morning is usually the best time i absorb what i eat right after; usually when i feel most vigorous and like the way regular folks must process all the time.

[confused]

I refuse to do e-coffee's also, i had thought about it on occassion til i found out it has to be caffeinated coffee, and i do not put nay type of caffeine into my body for years lol.

I did have a flush out period at the start also, it drove me nuts, but it passed after a few days.

Deotx baths are the best. i feel so wonderful after them, it is even great if u do some dry skin brushing before hand.

paula

[covsooze]

Thanks for the reminder about skin brushing Paula. I have a brush but haven't used it in ages. Am I supposed to brush towards the heart or away from it? I can never remember!

Susie

[bluejeangirl]

Hi Gail

What do you do for snacks?

Previously, the only way I've been able to keep weight on is by eating gluten-free cakes and biscuits and chocolate on top of a high calorie healthy diet I'm having various tests run to check my enzymes, villi etc and my dr says the adrenal issue plays a large part in not being able to absorb food properly & gain weight.

What are you doing for your adrenals? My dr has me on an adrenal support which is basically bovine adrenal + vitamins, esp B vits. I'm probably also going to have to have more support for my thyroid.

Susie

Susie

What I usually do for snacks is have those blue diamond nut-thins and then have eigher tuna or salmon salad, you can make it with olive oil and lemon juice. I also tolerate cashew butter well. I don't believe it has the mold like peanut butter has. Another option if you can tolorate alittle dairy is those little wedges of laughing cow low fat cheese. Its not an aged cheese its soft and spreadable. I usually only have 8 crackers a snack and its only 11 carbs.

But then alot of people stay away from all dairy in the beginning or throughout the diet but I'm so limited with my choices I include a small amt. usually as the snack I mentioned above.

I don't eat alot of fresh raw veggies eigher but I will during the summer when I can get to a farmers market and buy organic local stuff. Even then I have to be careful or I'll get to much gas and with that I'll get alot of pains in my intestines.

I can't take any vit. B's or I get sick. I've tried so many times with different brands. So many adrenal suppliments come with B vit. and that makes it hard. I'll have to check to see if I can find the bovine adrenal alone and see if I can tolerate it. I'm pretty sure enzmatic therapy makes it.

Sounds like an interesting book your reading. I do have a terrible digestive system. I'm cold during the day and I'm hot during the night. I wish it was the other way around.

Gail

[Nyxie63]

i'm still "flushing" after 8 months of trial and error. are you still taking in carbs? that was the most trouble for me. it's like they wont allow anything to absorb and one little wrong food item that does not agree will engulf me with candida. when i get a good balance; say after i get to a point where i hardly "go" at all...then i can add carbs again. i keep running into deadends though; stuff i just cannot eat, but sometimes seems like i can. it's weird. i dont get the rumbly hunger as much though anymore (when i am "flushing"). i dont get the sunken sore cheeks either. of course i dont get to eat as much. the wildest part is this: after a good flush in the morning is usually the best time i absorb what i eat right after; usually when i feel most vigorous and like the way regular folks must process all the time.

I thought I was cutting out all carbs. Will go over everything again. Also realized that part of my problem could be my gallbladder. The amount of fats I've been eating the past few days has increased. Even if they're "good fats", my body is probably not liking it at all. Will be getting a Hida scan next month.

And apparently my body doesn't like nuts right now. While they're a no-no for the most part anyway, I thought almonds were more or less safe. Ummm...no. Not for me. I had some raw almonds which I'd soaked in the fridge overnight. Had a handful of them and became almost instantly congested. Guess its back to meat and veg from now on.

I get that sometimes its ok, sometimes it isn't thing with food too. Still haven't figured it out. For all I know, it could be tied to the phase of the moon or the level of the stock market.

I refuse to do e-coffee's also, i had thought about it on occassion til i found out it has to be caffeinated coffee, and i do not put nay type of caffeine into my body for years lol.

I did have a flush out period at the start also, it drove me nuts, but it passed after a few days.

Deotx baths are the best. i feel so wonderful after them, it is even great if u do some dry skin brushing before hand.

Oh, I so hope this passes after a few days. Hate the idea of being tied to the bathroom considerably more than usual.

I dont' have a brush. Think a brand new dry loofah would work?

[Green12]

Deotx baths are the best. i feel so wonderful after them, it is even great if u do some dry skin brushing before hand.

I love my detox baths too Paula! The only thing is with our dry climate and winter weather my skin is sooo dry. I am having to slather on lots and lots of lotion.

Skin brushing is great for detox too.