Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Negative Blood Test?


cdog7

Recommended Posts

cdog7 Contributor

I posted here a while back before I had my blood test


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Helen Kendrick Newbie
I posted here a while back before I had my blood test
Lisa Mentor

Open Original Shared Link

You might find this interesting. These blood tests can rule celiac IN but cannot rule it OUT. They are well known not to be 100% reliable.

You can follow-up with an endoscopy/biopsy or confirm by a positive dietary response. And, many people here have had gene testing, which will not confirm Celiac, but can inform you of a predisposition.

Twenty percent of individuals with Celiac will pass it on to first degree relatives.

If you are frustrated with the continued medical dismissal, try the diet and if it works for you...great.

lizard00 Enthusiast

Did you get a copy of your bloodtest? Mine was normal too, until I realized that my IgA was seriously low. The normal range began at around 80 MGL, mine was 19. That article posted by Momma Goose shows that a low IgA alone can be a marker for Celiac. So, get your test results if you don't already. Then you can see for yourself the total picture.

As I said, my result was negative. I know better. I know that when I unknowingly ingest a small amount of gluten or am CC'd (which happened to me this past weekend), it makes me overall feel tired, lethargic, just totally out of it. So believe me, you can most definitely be negative blood test and definitely reactive be Celiac. There are sooo many of us on this board.

I am glad to hear though, that you changed doctors. Many of them are truly misinformed.

happygirl Collaborator

Definitely need to get a copy of your results so that you can tell which tests were run.

cdog7 Contributor
Open Original Shared Link

You might find this interesting. These blood tests can rule celiac IN but cannot rule it OUT. They are well known not to be 100% reliable.

You can follow-up with an endoscopy/biopsy or confirm by a positive dietary response. And, many people here have had gene testing, which will not confirm Celiac, but can inform you of a predisposition.

Twenty percent of individuals with Celiac will pass it on to first degree relatives.

If you are frustrated with the continued medical dismissal, try the diet and if it works for you...great.

That really is interesting. I do know that he just did an antibody test. I didn't have the highest confidence when the nurses performing it had to dig out a giant textbook to figure out what he'd asked them to do. I honestly felt like he was just pandering to me, not really trying to diagnose. I definitely plan to start the diet as soon as I can -- for now just having an occasional day that's gluten-free is nice. Thanks!

cdog7 Contributor
Definitely need to get a copy of your results so that you can tell which tests were run.

Good idea!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



jayhawkmom Enthusiast
That really is interesting. I do know that he just did an antibody test.

Another interesting thing.... when I had my blood tests done, my antibody levels were highly elevated. Yet, my ALLERGIST told me that there was no way I had Celiac, and that the antibody tests were pointless. (Then....why run them?)

Incidentally, my GI said that elevated antibodies indicates *something* going wrong... regardless as to whether it's true Celiac or not.

WHY, oh WHY can't they all get on the same page?????

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Don't rely on those blood tests. You can't even really rely on the endo either, it can be hit and miss and while both tests can say for sure that you have celiac neither can say for sure that you don't. The true test is how you feel on the gluten-free diet. You don't need a doctors permission to eat gluten free. There are gene tests but they also can be problematical because there are only 2 genes that are considered celiac genes in the US. If you have one of the other celiac related genes instead you will be told that you don't have the genes and can not possibly be celiac. Gene testing is in it's infancy and not all the genes related to celiac are recognized as such. My gene for example is considered a RA gene here, which I did have all the symptoms of. However it wasn't drug therapy that I needed but a gluten-free diet. If my genes had been tested before diagnosis I would still be suffering needlessly, living off meds that did nothing for the pain. Because it is so important to remember I will say it again, it is your response to the diet that is most diagnostic.

lizzy Apprentice
Don't rely on those blood tests. You can't even really rely on the endo either, it can be hit and miss and while both tests can say for sure that you have celiac neither can say for sure that you don't. The true test is how you feel on the gluten-free diet. You don't need a doctors permission to eat gluten free. There are gene tests but they also can be problematical because there are only 2 genes that are considered celiac genes in the US. If you have one of the other celiac related genes instead you will be told that you don't have the genes and can not possibly be celiac. Gene testing is in it's infancy and not all the genes related to celiac are recognized as such. My gene for example is considered a RA gene here, which I did have all the symptoms of. However it wasn't drug therapy that I needed but a gluten-free diet. If my genes had been tested before diagnosis I would still be suffering needlessly, living off meds that did nothing for the pain. Because it is so important to remember I will say it again, it is your response to the diet that is most diagnostic.

Dear ravenwoodglass

i want to thank you for your post i was looking for simurla answers about weather or not to stay gluten free after never having a positive blood test, but after reading this post it brought back all the memories of just how sick i got and how much staying away from gluten made me feel better.

your right if you feel better after staying away from gluten then thats the proof in the pudding alone. thanks liz

ksymonds84 Enthusiast

So he finally gave me the blood test, and it came back negative. Now he says there is "no chance" I have it, based only on that, and the fact that he insists that if I had celiac, I'd be losing weight rapidly and anemic. I actually put in a complaint to my insurance company about him and changed doctors. I hope someone learns something out of all this, because it was obvious this guy had no recent info about celiac, and I didn't trust my health to him.

So now I have a negative blood test, which I hear can happen even if you have it. I'm hoping that with all my symptoms and having a celiac-positive mother, my new doctor will still refer me to a GI so I can still get the other test(s). What does it mean if your blood test is negative (or as my doctor put it, "relatively normal")? Is there any reason I should try getting it done again? Or should I just go for the endoscopy?

I'm having a harder and harder time keeping up the regular diet (with gluten added), keep getting sick after I eat bread, etc., but I don't want to screw up the diagnosis by healing myself before my tests! Eep. Any advice or sympathy is appreciated. :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,208
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    juliemt
    Newest Member
    juliemt
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • lizzie42
      Hi, I posted before about my son's legs shaking after gluten. I did end up starting him on vit b and happily he actually started sleeping better and longer.  Back to my 4 year old. She had gone back to meltdowns, early wakes, and exhaustion. We tested everything again and her ferritin was lowish again (16) and vit d was low. After a couple weeks on supplements she is cheerful, sleeping better and looks better. The red rimmed eyes and dark circles are much better.   AND her Ttg was a 3!!!!!! So, we are crushing the gluten-free diet which is great. But WHY are her iron and vit d low if she's not getting any gluten????  She's on 30mg of iron per day and also a multivitamin and vit d supplement (per her dr). That helped her feel better quickly. But will she need supplements her whole life?? Or is there some other reason she's not absorbing iron? We eat very healthy with minimal processed food. Beef maybe 1x per week but plenty of other protein including eggs daily.  She also says her tummy hurts every single morning. That was before the iron (do not likely a side effect). Is that common with celiac? 
    • Scott Adams
      Celiac disease is the most likely cause, but here are articles about the other possible causes:    
    • xxnonamexx
      Please read: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-steps-improve-gluten-ingredient-disclosure-foods?fbclid=IwY2xjawPeXhJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFzaDc3NWRaYzlJOFJ4R0Fic3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHrwuSsw8Be7VNGOrKKWFVbrjmf59SGht05nIALwnjQ0DoGkDDK1doRBDzeeX_aem_GZcRcbhisMTyFUp3YMUU9Q
    • cristiana
      Hi @Atl222 As @trents points out, there could be many reasons for this biopsy result.  I am interested to know, is your gastroenterologist concerned?  Also, are your blood tests showing steady improvement over the years? I remember when I had my last biopsy, several years after diagnosis, mine came back with with raised lymphocytes but no villous damage, too! In my own case, my consultant wasn't remotely concerned - in fact, he said I might still get this result even if all I ever did was eat nothing but rice and water.   My coeliac blood tests were still steadily improving, albeit slowly, which was reassuring.
    • trents
      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @Atl222! Yes, your increased lymphocytes could be in response to oats or it could possibly be cross contamination from gluten that is getting into your diet from some unexpected source but not enough to damage the villi. And I'm certain that increased lymphocytes can be caused by other things besides celiac disease or gluten/oats exposure. See attachment. But you might try eliminating oats to start with and possibly dairy for a few months and then seek another endoscopy/biopsy to see if there was a reduction in lymphocyte counts. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.