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Anyone Unemployed Or Divorced Because Of Celiac?


mrmachinist

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mrmachinist Newbie

Hi, newbe here, just wondering if anyone else has been through the same hell I have and how they are coping. I just discovered I have been suffering with celiac and have been missdiagnosed by EVERY doctor I've been to for the last 10+ years.

The last three years have been rough, starting with my wife devorcing me when I began having health problems, I was missdiagnosed by a rhuematolagist and put on chemotherapy to shut down my amune system in order to treat my "arthritis", then a year and a half later lost my job due to my increasing health issues related to the undiagnosed celiac dissease.

Has anyone else had a spouse, boss or doctor treat you like you're just a lazy hypochondriac that should just suck it up and shut up?

Thanks,

D.L.


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ianm Apprentice

Been there. My wife filed for divorce becuse I was too sick to take care of her. Men aren't supposed to get sick. I almost lost my job because of it. The only thing that saved me is the company I worked for at the time was so poorly managed that I was able to squeak by. When the management situation was changed I had found out what was killing me and was able to save my job. I left for a better one shortly after. Losing the wife turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me. It has been a long hard fight but I managed to survive and prosper.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

I think there are lots of us here, myself included. All we can do is try to look forward.

jerseyangel Proficient

I sadly had to quit a job I loved due to being ill. Even then, it was another year and a half before I was correctly diagnosed. Unfortunately, many of us have been up against the old "suck it up" and "mind over matter"

I wish you the best--I wasn't diagnosed until I was 49 and had had years of misdiagnosis and unnecessary treatments and medications. Three years post-diagnosis, I'm doing much, much better. It can take time, but there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Take care :)

dilettantesteph Collaborator

Almost got divorced. Don't know how we managed to stay together. I was such a psycho. Couldn't work because I was dumping a whole load in my pants twice a week or so requiring a shower and half hour or so clean up after each time. How would you deal with that at work? Doctors said it was IBS. Not happy about that. So happy to be better. Looking for work.

Mother of Jibril Enthusiast

My husband and I are still together, but we just barely made it through :(

After we lost our second child when I was 17 weeks pregnant (which I'm pretty sure was caused by my autoimmune problems) I fell into a severe depression... made worse by the same autoimmune problems. I took a leave of absence from my job for three months. My husband just did NOT get it... he kept telling me to snap out of it. Like that was possible! If it wasn't for our daughter (who was not quite two years old at the time) I think I would have ended up in a psychiatric unit. I pushed myself to get better so I could take care of her.

I can definitely see why people end up divorcing or losing their jobs when they're seriously ill. Even if you want to be a good spouse (or boss), I think it takes a special person to have real empathy. A lot of people just don't want to be bothered.

codetalker Contributor
Has anyone else had a spouse, boss or doctor treat you like you're just a lazy hypochondriac that should just suck it up and shut up?

A couple of days ago, I mentioned in a post that one doctor once asked if I ever considered whether I might be a hypochrondriac and then suggested I seek professional counseling. Of course now that I think of it, my ex thought I needed professional counseling too. Maybe there's a pattern here. :lol:

Divorce is tough but people get over it. If it happens, it probably would have happened anyway. If you can find the elusive single celiac that shares your interests, the relationship would at least have a common foundation. There would be a lot to build on.


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Has anyone else had a spouse, boss or doctor treat you like you're just a lazy hypochondriac that should just suck it up and shut up?

The doctor I work for often makes me feel this way. A doctor, no less!

Divorce is tough but people get over it. If it happens, it probably would have happened anyway. If you can find the elusive single celiac that shares your interests, the relationship would at least have a common foundation. There would be a lot to build on.

Codetalker is correct. If a divorce happens, it's much bigger than the celiac disease. I a person really loves you, they help you get through the disease, they do not turn their back on you. It would have happened anyways. I know my being sick wasn't fun for anyone else in my family, yet my spouse was rarely around anyways. We have been divorced for 10 yrs, and I have been gluten-free for over 8. For a time, I did see a counselor, and when that person asked that my husband come in too, he said no, because it was all my problem. By the way, he didn't leave me, I asked him to go...not about celiac.

I would love to find a celiac man now, it certainly would make life easier!!! :lol:

mrmachinist Newbie

Thanks to everyone for your responses, it makes me feel better to know that others know what I've been going through, nothing is worse than being so sick and having those around you especial ones you love act like you are just lazy or crazy.

Has anyone had to go on dissability? I have been told that I may need to apply because of the rhuematoid condition Celiac causes me to have.

luciddream928 Explorer

My heart goes out to you. I'm 28 and I've not been married yet, but I have wonderful support from my family and the agency that I am interning at. I feel blessed to have this support in my life and I've seen people struggle through the things that you are talking about.

Raven is right - best to look to the future and the positive. Occasionally I've gotten a jab here and there re: laziness, but in my heart I know that people always do their best to move toward wellness. Health is SO much more than surviving - it's thriving, and we don't live in a society that supports that POV. I think in some ways it's worse for those of us with the intolerance vs. the disease - people hear "disease" and they are more likely to be tolerant. Intolerance, on the other hand, evokes an image of one who is "a picky eater" or "a complainer." Not true.

Unfortunately most people who make cracks about laziness or "get over it" in my experience have been people who treat themselves or approach life with that attitude. That isn't meant as a judgment, though it probably sounds like it. I guess what I'm saying is that people project that attitude onto others when it's their experience. There is no room for empathy. When I get in that mood and I push myself, I have no room for empathy for myself, and the vicious cycle continues. What hurts is not so much that they say that, it's the fact that I internalize it and mistake it for MY point of view, which it isn't.

I've decided that in order to be well I need to scrap that attitude from my consciousness and recognize it when I see it in others. The first line of defense for me is not relying on what others say to validate how I feel. No one knows my body but me, and the experts on health and wellness are myself, my specialists, and people who support me, in that order.

Just my .02 cents, and again, my blessings to you! This is not an easy experience.

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minton Contributor

I almost lost my first job because I was supposed to work thursdays and thursdays at school were chicken days...the breading made me sick and I'd go to the doctor every thursday for 3 years. One would think they would've caught celiac then! My next job was at a sub shop and they fired me because my mom brought me lunch (their food at minimum had modified food starch!) and my mom would often stay with me on my breaks. sounds like a nice mom to me, but they were offended that i never ate their food.

before diagnosis I had 2 boyfirends leave me over my constant sickness as well as family trouble over it. Thank god I have a name for the problem and have an understanding fiance!

wcc84 Newbie

I feel your pain..........I went almost 16 years undiagnosed! Went to some of the best medical facility's in the country including the Mayo clinic, the Clevland clinic,the university of Miami medical center,etc. When I finally was diagnosed I was very angry for about 6 months or so. When I saw the criteria for Celiac I just about had Celiac tatooed accross my forehead. How could the best doctors in the country not see what so so obvious. It also upsets me that I have a higher risk for cancer than most Celiac patients because I went so long undiagnosed and all the while ingested gluten (I am Italian so pasta and bread were daily in my diet).

Unfortunetly with our terrible economy my business that I built from the ground up all by myself has shut down. My business was heavy in real estate investing so you can see my issue with all the problems with real estate and the mortgage industry. I now am unemployed and am forced to look for a job in industrys I have no experiance in. My backround and the industry I worked in have been torpedoed. My business always allowed me to have the freedom to work from home and take time for myself if I didnt feel well.

As far as family and spousel support I guess I have been lucky. My wife is very supportive , although sometimes its hard for her to understand the extent of my pain. My parents and siblings have always been super supportive.

Keep your chin up, things WILL get better. And take my word for it......you WILL find a women that will love you for YOU! Good, bad or indifferent. Anyone that leaves you in a time of need is not someone you want around.

Amyleigh0007 Enthusiast

My husband doesn't get it and his ignorance makes me furious. He thinks it's all in my head and has told me several times to "get over it". He thinks my symptoms came on suddenly because I never complained until after our son was dx. But, what he doesn't understand is that I thought the way I was feeling was normal. I did not know what it felt like to feel well. I had never had a "normal" bowel movement. It was one extreme or the other. I thought having a headache all day was a way of life for me. I thought taking naps everyday was fine. When our son was dx in March it was like a lightbulb going off for me. After countless hours of researching Celiac for my son's sake, I discovered an answer to my own health problems. My husband thinks I am nuts, especially since my blood tests came back negative. He has not educated himself on Celiac and I always ask him what he would do if something happened to me and he had to take care of our son on his own. We have discussed divorce and I tell him that I would fight for full custody because he could not take care of our son properly. It's a sad situation that I hope will improve.

nasalady Contributor

With regards to my job, I made certain to sign up for FMLA (Family Medical Leave Act) benefits through the Human Resources department where I work as soon as I began having serious medical issues earlier this year. That way, legally, my employer cannot hold time taken off for doctor's visits, etc., against me.

But I know that everyone has noticed that I'm ill, that I sometimes work from home (my supervisor allows me to do so once or twice a week); I don't know yet what impact this will have on the long term status of my job. I do worry about it.

I've had a few autoimmune issues for most of my life (Hashimoto's thyroiditis, asthma, psoriasis), but several strange symptoms (difficulty walking, peripheral neuropathy, blurry vision, brain fog, etc. etc.) developed over the past couple of years and I was eventually diagnosed with autoimmune hepatitis, fibromyalgia, and rheumatoid arthritis this past summer. By the time I was diagnosed with celiac disease (this month!), I was in a wheelchair.

The fact that I've had gastric problems and "IBS" since I was a child indicates to me that I've had celiac disease longer than any of the other autoimmune issues. This seems consistent with the following medical journal article by Fasano, who says that celiac disease can be the initial problem that literally "opens the door" for other autoimmune diseases to develop: Open Original Shared Link

Surprisingly, my husband and mother have both been VERY upset with me for being in the wheelchair. They seem to feel that I'm "giving up". It didn't seem to matter to them that I can no longer walk for more than a few yards at a time without excruciating pain; I should just "suck it up" and keep trying! Lately my husband has started to become a bit more understanding, and my mother no longer brings up the subject because it starts fights....but I did think at one point my husband was going to leave me.

Fortunately, the gluten free diet has not bothered my husband; I "sold" it to him using other peoples' testimonies from this forum about how they no longer have fibro or RA symptoms. I know that he's hoping that all of my other autoimmune diseases and issues will magically go into remission now and that I will be able to get out of the chair. But I suppose I'm afraid of what will happen to our marriage if I *don't* improve enough to no longer need the wheelchair!

It's sad; I was really depressed after reading many of the earlier posts in this topic. The traditional marriage vows say "in sickness and in health", don't they?

JoAnn

cmom Contributor

Yes, people often forget the vows they made, or they weren't sincere when they said them. I had worked in my job for about 6 years, when I was given a new duty of riding the special needs bus. This route lasted 1 1/2 -2 hours and went out through the country where there were no public restrooms. I did try to do this duty until I started getting sick every afternoon and panicking whether or not I would make it back or not without an accident. I finally spoke to my principal who was very understanding and set out to have someone else do this duty. When she spoke to my special education employer, they told her she did not have to keep me if I couldn't do my job!!! I had been doing it well (I felt) for 6 yrs, and now they were saying to get rid of me!!!! However, my principal said she was not about to lose me and was very firm. I will always be grateful to her for that and I am still employed over a year later.

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jacflash Newbie

I probably went almost 40 years undiagnosed. I am 41 and we think I got it when I was 3. It has had an enormous, incalculable impact on my life. I have managed to cobble together a family and a reasonable-looking career but I've spent days on end in an exhausted depressed dyspeptic fog telling *myself* I was being lazy. I have never actually been divorced or unemployed but I've had relationships fail and haven't done as well in my professional life as my skills would seem to suggest. By way of example: I got into one of the top universities in America based on intellect and academic potential... and then stressed myself into an Addisonian crisis halfway through and graduated by the barest skin of my teeth, with a couple of eminent professors shaking their heads at me and mumbling about "such wasted potential".

It would be easy to carry a lot of anger and resentment around this as I work through the diagnostic and gut-healing process, but I'm not going to go there. I am looking forward to spending the rest of my life making up for lost time and determined to be grateful to have discovered it while my sons are still young -- not only so that I can enjoy my time with them, but so that if they have it (I have 3 sons, we suspect it in 2, testing is forthcoming) I can spare them from the worst of what I went through.

Mysh Rookie

I have lost jobs because I simply couldn't put the effort in anymore. I have never been fired, but have always quit at that moment where it was obvious that i could no longer hide the fact i couldn't put in even a modicum of effort.

I used to work as a family law paralegal but had to leave this job when my son was born prematurely at 29 weeks. After his birth my health has gone downhill. I doubt I will ever work in that field again and even the thought of working full time is a mere pipedream to me now.

1st marriage failed due to combination of my depression and what I thought was chroni fatigue syndrome.

My 2nd relationship will most likely fail, we are not far off calling it quits. My partner now has not taken my diagnosis (although only recent) seriously - in fact he has mocked the fact there is even a forum for celiacs. He has taken nothing I've said on board about cross contamination basically insinuating that I am being a drama queen. For the breakdown, it won't be Celiac that caused it, it is simply his uncaring manner. I believe couples could overcome and work with a celiac diagnosis - if both parties want to.

mushroom Proficient
I have lost jobs because I simply couldn't put the effort in anymore. I have never been fired, but have always quit at that moment where it was obvious that i could no longer hide the fact i couldn't put in even a modicum of effort.

I used to work as a family law paralegal but had to leave this job when my son was born prematurely at 29 weeks. After his birth my health has gone downhill. I doubt I will ever work in that field again and even the thought of working full time is a mere pipedream to me now.

1st marriage failed due to combination of my depression and what I thought was chroni fatigue syndrome.

My 2nd relationship will most likely fail, we are not far off calling it quits. My partner now has not taken my diagnosis (although only recent) seriously - in fact he has mocked the fact there is even a forum for celiacs. He has taken nothing I've said on board about cross contamination basically insinuating that I am being a drama queen. For the breakdown, it won't be Celiac that caused it, it is simply his uncaring manner. I believe couples could overcome and work with a celiac diagnosis - if both parties want to.

Mysh: I am so sorry that you are having to go through this. The only good thing about it is that you have found out what sort of person he is before you got any more involved. He is only thinking of himself, not you. If he truly cared for you he would do anything he could to help you. It doesn't make it that much easier to deal with, it must be very painful for you to find this out. But at least you have found out before getting too far involved.

The birth of your son was probably the trigger event for your celiac and the source of your fatigue and depression. If you are one of the lucky ones you will probably recover from that as your gut heals from the gluten assault. There is hope, and you must approach it hopefully. It is even possible you suffered from post-partum depression. Did you get any help with this? It might be something to consider.

Hang in there and you will get better!

Mysh Rookie
Mysh: I am so sorry that you are having to go through this. The only good thing about it is that you have found out what sort of person he is before you got any more involved. He is only thinking of himself, not you. If he truly cared for you he would do anything he could to help you. It doesn't make it that much easier to deal with, it must be very painful for you to find this out. But at least you have found out before getting too far involved.

The birth of your son was probably the trigger event for your celiac and the source of your fatigue and depression. If you are one of the lucky ones you will probably recover from that as your gut heals from the gluten assault. There is hope, and you must approach it hopefully. It is even possible you suffered from post-partum depression. Did you get any help with this? It might be something to consider.

Hang in there and you will get better!

Mushroom, I should clarify my first marriage was almost 20 years ago (I married at 19). I have two children from that marriage who are now 17 & 18. My 5 yr old is from my 2nd relationship. I suffered PND after my 1st two children (got no help) but funnily enough despite the stresses of having a premature baby i did not suffer PND this last time around. My health severly declined after his birth but it's only been this last few months that I feel i can't go on (although I'm still not depressed - just so tired).

My youngest has autism traits and i care for my 2 elderly parents, so being this sick has not been a good thing.

Thanks for your positive thoughts - I actually do look forward to hopefully feeling like a new me! :D

dogle Apprentice

I am a very grown up person and I haven't been in any serious relationship, in fact, I haven't had any girlfriend. I have to confess I have dated women for two or three days but I have always been afraid of keeping a relationship for a long period. I was diagnosed 6 months ago, but before the diagnosis, I always knew there was something in me that was not quite right, my anxiety, depression sometimes, fatigue wouldn't keep up with any of the women I met therefore, and probably with any children of our own. I always knew I was not as active as they wanted me to be, I was always tired when we did simple things like going to the movies or even going for a walk. My digestive symptoms were also the problem. I have always been embarrased by the constant bowel movements after eating and even without eating, the excess of gass that when expeled would make a disguting noise. I know those things were not attractive at all (you know big distended abdomen and the other symtoms I had) so soon women began to lose interest in me. Thas my reality, and I confess I tried the best that I could.

I have to thank God for letting me have a wonderful career which I love too much and has allowed my to find my health problem. I managed to be one of the top in my class and I graduated with some honors. And although I did all my best to succeed almost perfectly in my career I know some of the excellent achivements I got were secondary to the fact that I seldom went out with girlfriends or friends (or maybe I would have been perfect in school if had been diagnosed before B) , who knows), I have lived my whole life within my house, being afraid to eat outside, not because I knew I couldn't eat gluten-made meals (I obviously did not know about my disease back then), but because everything I ate was a stimulus to my gut to start a bowel movement; the stomach pain, the gas, the fatigue all were also contributors to my home isolation. I knew I had to take advantage of that time, and although I would have loved to be outside enjoying life just as the other people did I prepared myself very well, knowing perhaps, that some cure would be available to the missdiagnosed IBS I supposedly experienced. I remember being congratulated all the time, they didn

hal000 Rookie

Hi DL............Yep, I'm in the same sort of boat as you.

I've only just been diagnosed after ten yrs of being told that there was nothing wrong with me, or it was chronic fatigue. Only when I was so ill (liver, thyroid, underweight) did I finally work it out.

To be honest I'm more angry with myself, I had a feeling it was a gluten problem but assumed the main symptom was diarrhea. Although having said that the celiac problem seemed to be masked by its effects.

Roda Rising Star

I feel for all of you that have relationship strains and job losses. I was fortunate to only have mild symptoms, heartburn and chronic iron deficiency. Some of my other vague symptoms I thought were normal. I think people today don't value "for better or worse and in sickness and in health". My husband is very supportive and was glad I found the answers to my ailment. He and I have been through a very trying time since our youngest son was about 6 months old(he is now 4). My husband had a vasectomy gone bad! :angry: Everything still functions but has left us with two additional surgeries , chronic pain, and a couple bouts with depression. We are stronger than ever! He even made the comment early on that most women would not have stood by. It never even was an option in my mind and heart to leave! So his experience has really put things in perspective and he knows when I mean something is "off" he believes me. On a more funny note though, he does keep me grounded when my "knowing enough to be dangerous" kicks in and I am being rediculous. :lol:

mushroom Proficient

My health severly declined after his birth but it's only been this last few months that I feel i can't go on (although I'm still not depressed - just so tired).

My youngest has autism traits and i care for my 2 elderly parents, so being this sick has not been a good thing.

Thanks for your positive thoughts - I actually do look forward to hopefully feeling like a new me! :D

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You will probably have noted from reading on the forum that there is usually a trigger that activates the celiac, and pregnancy can be one of the triggers (see posts by Mother of Jibril). This would seem to have been the case with you and could definitely have accounted for your baby being born with IUGR. You will also find plenty of references to celiac and autism. Have you had a celiac blood panel run on your five-year-old? Since the inheritance link is very strong I would highly recommend it. Talk to his pediatrician.

It really does sound like you have been having a tough time, but I think brighter days may be ahead.

Mysh Rookie

Mushroom - I had my sons pediatrician runs a whole series of blood tests about 6 months ago - celiac was on the panel and he tested negative. Funnily enough Celiac was one of the tests I insisted on for him. I have tried to try to make his diet as gluten free as possible anyway.

My 17 yr old daughter was tested yesterday, so hopefully we will hear something today (she has lethargy, dental enamel issues, headaches, depression). I have yet to convince my 18 yr old as he has a needle phobia (also has traits of autism).

I have been insisting that family members go and get checked out, but I think most of them think I am over reacting.

mushroom Proficient

Well I don't think you are overreacting; I think you are being very prudent. Prudent also in keeping your five-year-old away from gluten. As you must be aware, there are many false negatives on the blood tests. Do you have a copy of his results that you could post here for the "experts" in reading tests (I am not one of them)?

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    • catnapt
      thank you so much for your detailed and extremely helpful reply!! I can say with absolute certainty that the less gluten containing products I've eaten over the past several years, the better I've felt.   I wasn't avoiding gluten, I was avoiding refined grains (and most processed foods) as well as anything that made me feel bad when I ate it. It's the same reason I gave up dairy and eggs- they make me feel ill.  I do have a bit of a sugar addiction lol so a lot of times I wasn't sure if it was the refined grains that I was eating - or the sugar. So from time to time I might have a cookie or something but I've learned how to make wonderful cookies and golden brownies with BEANS!! and no refined sugar - I use date paste instead. Pizza made me so ill- but I thought it was probably the cheese. I gave up pizza and haven't missed it. the one time I tried a slice I felt so bad I knew I'd never touch it again. I stopped eating wheat pasta at least 3 yrs ago- just didn't feel well after eating it. I tried chick pea pasta and a few others and discovered I like the brown rice pasta. I still don't eat a lot of pasta but it's nice for a change when I want something easy. TBH over the years I've wondered sometimes if I might be gluten intolerant but really believed it was not possible for me to have celiac disease. NOW I need to know for sure- because I'm in the middle of a long process of trying to find out why I have a high parathyroid level (NOT the thyroid- but rather the 4 glands that control the calcium balance in your body) I have had a hard time getting my vit D level up, my serum calcium has run on the low side of normal for many years... and now I am losing calcium from my bones and excreting it in my urine (some sort of renal calcium leak) Also have a high ALP since 2014. And now rapidly worsening bone density.  I still do not have a firm diagnosis. Could be secondary HPT (but secondary to what? we need to know) It could be early primary HPT. I am spilling calcium in my urine but is that caused by the high parathyroid hormone or is it the reason my PTH is high>? there are multiple feedback loops for this condition.    so I will keep eating the bread and some wheat germ that does not seem to bother me too much (it hasn't got enough gluten to use just wheat germ)    but I'm curious- if you don't have a strong reaction to a product- like me and wheat germ- does that mean it's ok to eat or is it still causing harm even if you don't have any obvious symptoms? I guess what you are saying about silent celiac makes it likely that you can have no symptoms and still have the harm... but geez! you'd think they'd come up with a way to test for this that didn't require you to consume something that makes you sick! I worry about the complications I've been reading about- different kinds of cancers etc. also wondering- are there degrees of celiac disease?  is there any correlation between symptoms and the amnt of damage to your intestines? I also need a firm diagnosis because I have an identical twin sister ... so if I have celiac, she has it too- or at least the genetic make up for having it. I did have a VERY major stress to my body in 2014-2016 time frame .. lost 50lbs in a short period of time and had severe symptoms from acute protracted withdrawal off an SSRI drug (that I'd been given an unethically high dose of, by a dr who has since lost his license)  Going off the drug was a good thing and in many ways my health improved dramatically- just losing 50lbs was helpful but I also went  off almost a dozen different medications, totally changed my diet and have been doing pretty well except for the past 3-4 yrs when the symptoms related to the parathyroid issue cropped up. It is likely that I had low vit D for some time and that caused me a lot of symptoms. The endo now tells me that low vit D can be caused by celiac disease so I need to know for sure! thank you for all that great and useful information!!! 
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