Gluten Intolerance, Maybe Celiac D?

gfb1 · May 9, 2009

smalltownslackermom said:
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Sublingual delivery is used for meds all the time, why not fatty acids?
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because substances delivered via sublinqual route (e.g., B-vitamins) are WATER-SOLUBLE; fatty acids, on the other hand, are HYDROPHOBIC -- i.e., NOT water soluble.

sublingual delivery of hydrophobic molecules can be accomplished via carriers (e.g., alcohols, DMSO, PEG, methylcellulose, etc). none of these things are in salad oil.

sorry all; but, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.h

Jestgar · May 9, 2009

gfb1 said:
because substances delivered via sublinqual route (e.g., B-vitamins) are WATER-SOLUBLE; fatty acids, on the other hand, are HYDROPHOBIC -- i.e., NOT water soluble.
sublingual delivery of hydrophobic molecules can be accomplished via carriers (e.g., alcohols, DMSO, PEG, methylcellulose, etc). none of these things are in salad oil.

sorry all; but, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.h

I think that some of whatever is squished around in your mouth for 20 minutes is going to end up in your tummy. If you need fats, and you are giving yourseld an extra spoonful every morning, you're gonna feel better.

Nadia2009 · May 9, 2009

Jestgar said:
I think that some of whatever is squished around in your mouth for 20 minutes is going to end up in your tummy. If you need fats, and you are giving yourseld an extra spoonful every morning, you're gonna feel better.

Well whatever squished is already in your body (mouth) so better to try getting rid of some.

Now, getting back to celiac can a low vit D be a sign of having celiac disease. Vit B12 was checked and fine. I take many vitamine supplements vit C D B and cal-mag. I had my blood test done and I have a low vit D but no sign of celiac.

Jestgar · May 9, 2009

Nadia2009 said:
Now, getting back to celiac can a low vit D be a sign of having celiac disease. Vit B12 was checked and fine. I take many vitamine supplements vit C D B and cal-mag. I had my blood test done and I have a low vit D but no sign of celiac.

I don't think that low vit D can be specific to Celiac disease. It could be a sign of poor diet, malabsorption, or not enough exposure to the sun.

Nadia2009 · May 10, 2009

Jestgar said:
I don't think that low vit D can be specific to Celiac disease. It could be a sign of poor diet, malabsorption, or not enough exposure to the sun.

Thank you. Definitely lack of sun exposure is one of them. The Canadian winter has just ended and during winter I barely out for day time. I have also stopped drinking milk and I hate yogurt. Ok, maybe time to go back to milk now because I don't think I am getting enough vit D with the rest of my diet.

I am going to eat gluten free but will not worry about lactose for now. I don't know if soya milk is good too.

smalltownslackermom · May 17, 2009

gfb1 said:
because substances delivered via sublinqual route (e.g., B-vitamins) are WATER-SOLUBLE; fatty acids, on the other hand, are HYDROPHOBIC -- i.e., NOT water soluble.
sublingual delivery of hydrophobic molecules can be accomplished via carriers (e.g., alcohols, DMSO, PEG, methylcellulose, etc). none of these things are in salad oil.
sorry all; but, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Sure, but cigars don't contain salivary enzymes to start breaking down food:

"α-amylase (EC3.2.1.1). Amylase starts the digestion of starch and lipase fat before the food is even swallowed. It has a pH optima of 7.4"

So I'm no expert but shouldn't this make some of those fatty acids more available? and trace amounts of Vitamins A and E and other bits in the oils?

But I really understand skepticism and I don't want to overstate it. It did a lot for me and so I am looking for the "how". I really had nothing to lose when I heard about it. Truly. I was skeptical but Dr.s had done _nothing_ for me for years. I thought, "maybe oil pulling total quackery but maybe it does something that the fanatics can't put a name on so they just call it a "detoxifier"" I still think that "detoxing" is sort of thrown out there as a catch all phrase without much solid meaning... but I know that oil pulling works, however it does it.

plus oleic acid, such as in sunflower and sesame seed oils which are recommended, is a penetration enhancer for dermal application of meds and is one of many researched as an enhancer for sublingual meds. It's not dismissed by researchers so why should we? It may not be that oils must be made hydrophilic before something happens.

smalltownslackermom · May 17, 2009

Nadia2009 said:
I agree with Jetsgar. It makes sense! I think I have been soaking up some of the oil. Do sesame oil contain omega 3?

Not much:

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Walnut oil and flaxseed oil are both high in omega-3s. Flaxseed imho is funny tasting and has too many phytoestrogens, I notice the effect even if it is subtle. I use walnut oil for cooking and dressings so I often have some for oil pulling. I also like sunflower and untoasted sesame oil for cooking and pulling. Pumpkin seed, hemp seed and macadamia nut oils I have seen mentioned too. I'm not a fan of olive oil but some people like it, ditto for coconut oil - not my cuppa. Canola is not for oil pulling nor are corn, soy or peanut oils. Part of the concern with those is that they are often chemically or heat refined. Cold pressed unrefined is usually recommended.