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Sick And Tired Of Doctors?


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Lincoln Rookie

Hey guys,

After reading of many people on this forums frustrations with doctors (and having a few of my own) I feel it necessary to detail the experience I had today. My mother usually goes to a woman who gives massage and accupunture and in their conversations my coeliac disease came up and the woman suggested I see her for Homotoxicology treatment. Anyway I get there today and after she introduced herself she took a photo of each of my eyes (through a special lens) and then when it came up on screen she said "ah yes here we are, you see here (pointing to the centre of the picture of my eye) here's the gluten intolerance" among other things she could even tell that I get pains in between my shoulder blades, have slight leaky gut and that I have a high adrenal capacity (which is why I'm so charged all the time). She gave me supplements and probiotics and even inflammatory medicine for the inflammation.

I believe it would be worth it for anyone (especially those recently diagnosed/self diagnosed) to try and track down a Homotoxicologist, just thought I'd share this with you all.


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dilettantesteph Collaborator

There is no proven way to diagnose celiac disease by looking at the eye. That person was just trying to sell you supplements. I hope that they don't contain gluten.

Emilushka Contributor

If she was looking at the center of your eye, she was looking at your pupil. Which is a hole. Without any gluten or gluten processing equipment in it.

shopgirl Contributor

That person was just trying to sell you supplements.

This. It sounds like you said it yourself. The person diagnosed you and then sold you a bunch of supplements; she didn't "give" them to you.

I like alternative medicine to a point but even the lovely naturopath I saw a couple times was constantly trying to sell me vitamins and supplements. I politely took her advice and then researched them on my own.

Gluten intolerance or Celiac Disease is diagnosed through a diet elimination, blood test, or biopsy. No one can look at your eyes and diagnosis you.

chasbari Apprentice

Please keep in mind that you first told her about your celiac and then she "diagnosed" you.

CS

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altho ive never heard of homotoxicology... and like everyone, i might be a little skeptical, BUT they do examine the eye in Chinese Medicine.. they can examine your eye, your tongue, & your pulse, and diagnose quite a bit.. so, i definitely believe in it, but not sure i would always believe anyone claiming they know how to do it.

but i am definitely open to alternative stuff... i think they can find different pieces to the puzzle. i have learned quite a lot about my body thru alternative & Regular docs- and yet i still have to piece the puzzle together myself- no ONE DOCTOR has ever solved it for me.

also, the pain in your shoulder blades might possibly be referred pain from your gall bladder.. or just simply muscular.

im going to a Contact Reflexologist next month- and he's GREAT- also a chiropracter and does adjustments. he Also sells natural supplements- and they have always helped me.

again- like i said- altho he helped with a lot, just like everyone ive seen, he was not the complete answer- just a piece of the solution

Skylark Collaborator

Lincoln, you've been had. I hope this charlatan didn't charge you too much money to recount all the health problems she talked about with your mother.


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Lincoln Rookie

I should have said directly around the pupil of my eye (not the pupil) and she did show me someone elses eye who was also having a gluten intolerance with the same thing but worse (it looked like major stress town). It doesn't matter anyway because I wasn't being charged for it ;).

Lincoln Rookie

altho ive never heard of homotoxicology... and like everyone, i might be a little skeptical, BUT they do examine the eye in Chinese Medicine.. they can examine your eye, your tongue, & your pulse, and diagnose quite a bit.. so, i definitely believe in it, but not sure i would always believe anyone claiming they know how to do it.

This is what was done, the eye thing is known as eye-radology and about the no proven way for diagnoses by looking at someones eye, "Only 10 to 20 percent of all medical procedures currently used in medical practice have been shown to be efficacious by controlled trial. -- U.S. Office of Technology Assessment. This lady only knew my mother, and still kindly fitted me in before Christmas and only looked at my eye to satisfy herself that I was a celiac before she gave me unnessecary treatment.

Kit Kellison Rookie

This is what was done, the eye thing is known as eye-radology and about the no proven way for diagnoses by looking at someones eye, "Only 10 to 20 percent of all medical procedures currently used in medical practice have been shown to be efficacious by controlled trial. -- U.S. Office of Technology Assessment. This lady only knew my mother, and still kindly fitted me in before Christmas and only looked at my eye to satisfy herself that I was a celiac before she gave me unnecessary treatment.

I Googled Eye Radiology and could find nothing on it, but I am very interested in the science behind it, if any. I do respect Chinese medicine but I also understand that they have different ideas on, for instance, their responsibility in regard to informed consent. All in all, I think it's wise to be skeptical about anybody trying to sell you services, traditional or not.

mushroom Proficient

Try googling iridology :rolleyes:

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