Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[Green12]

Hi everyone

Julie, I'm excited for you!!

I hope this really works for you....so far so good for me too! I'm feeling better than I have in a long time. I was having a bad streak since my vacation but I seem to have pulled myself out of it now.

I think I might really be on to something with this histamine thing. I feel like I've said it a thousand times but this time I think it might not be just a small piece of the puzzle but its like I can almost get a full picture now. I'm excited too.

I'm going to make another batch w/out vanilla and see what happens if I eat it on an empty stomach. If I dont react again it was probably the sensitivity to vanilla. If I do still react it probably has something to do with the sugar and/or dairy being eaten on an empty stomach. WOOHOO....I get to do another experiment.

Oh....I totally forgot I had my ultrasound today...luckily they called to remind me. When I get off work I gotta come home and load myself up with tons of water again.

My tummy feels ok so hopefully there wont be any jumping intestines or alien babaies messing things up for me this time.

Be back later.

Rachel, I'm very excited for you as well!!!!!!

It's kind of weird to be feeling this way, like I have a solution! After so many years for me, I don't know what to do with myself

A couple of things, have you checked your cream ingredients? I know that a few brands around here have carageenan added.

Also, how much water are you suppose to drink? Last time I remember you got a little sick, it might have been water overdose, which can be an issue. I think if you took in a glass every half hour, or space it out, it will give your body time to adjust to the water intake. Unless they have directions saying otherwise? I don't know, just a thought I had.

Good luck with your appt.

UGGGG!!!! Help! Slowly going crazy... have added two more kids to the house roster until 4pm. Not...Going....To....Make it.

Jeny, take a deep breath! Hang in there!

[VydorScope]

So then Rach.. I assume you liked it ? What recipe you use?

[Green12]

but if all goes well I'm heading to the beach on Sunday with my best friend....and NO DINGOS as have another friend staying here with them - - mommy needs a break from the bored, staring dogs - may bash their triangular-shaped heads in right now as they stare and pant endlessly when I am home..... )

Give the girls to me, I will dingosit the bored staring dogs for you. They will have lots to do here, chase the squirrels and bunnies, and the 2 yappy scotties next door

I hope you are feeling better Susan, it's been a long couple of weeks for you and your family.

[jerseyangel]

dingosit

[dlp252]

Well, I am happy...as I was going over the list of low histamine foods (making a grocery list for Saturday), I noticed that plums are on there. Where I work there, they have quite a lot of shrubbery...last year someone told me that there were some plum trees on the property...never knew where they were until this morning. There are tons out there and they have lots of plums on them. I've had two so far...trying really hard not to eat the third one that is staring at me (staring dingos and staring plums)... They are sweet but are still pretty firm. Yum. Eeek, must eat the third one, lol.

[DingoGirl]

dingosit

thanks Julie and Patti.....love love LOVE my dingos beyond human comprehension - more like a pathology, really - as mentioned before I HAVE become a Crazy Old Dog Lady - - but they do wear on me at times.....oh, and they killed one of the two small baby doves whose mom - foolishly - built her nest in the tree near my back gate....been watching her and the eggs for weeks, and the babies were teenagers, learnign to fly, and the DINGBATS killed one of them.....I wanted to throttle them and am so sad for their grief-stricken mother, who sits now on an empty nest (I don't know where her other child is - they probably killed that one too OR WILL)....but, dogs will be dogs and any prey in their back yard is fair game, I guess..... How can I give prozac to a dove.....

Yeah, Julie, I will put them on a plane to Colorado and let YOU become annoyed with them - though sounds like there's more to do in your yard - - nary a squirrel in our Stepford/Pleasantville community (they aren't given the gate code ) and they are clinically depressed with boredom - that's why we walk in the orchard almost eveyr day, where a lone squirrel submits to regular dingo torture (dont' worry, they'll never catch it)

RACHEL - your side job is now Ice Cream Maker and Tester in R-ville so glad you're enjoying it! Let us know how the alien baby is doing after your ultrasound.....

What is the latest MEggan update?

must get back to work......

[penguin]

Well, I am happy...as I was going over the list of low histamine foods (making a grocery list for Saturday), I noticed that plums are on there. Where I work there, they have quite a lot of shrubbery...last year someone told me that there were some plum trees on the property...never knew where they were until this morning. There are tons out there and they have lots of plums on them. I've had two so far...trying really hard not to eat the third one that is staring at me (staring dingos and staring plums)... They are sweet but are still pretty firm. Yum. Eeek, must eat the third one, lol.

Yikes! Remember that prunes were plums before they were dried.

Keep it moving! Oh Yeah!

[DingoGirl]

(staring dingos and staring plums

[dlp252]

Yikes! Remember that prunes were plums before they were dried.

Keep it moving! Oh Yeah!

Oh, almost saved me, but alas the stupid plum wins.

[dlp252]

Reading the supplement section of the book. But did come across this quote from Linus Pauling, Ph.D. "If a doctor isn't 'up' on something, he's 'down' on it." Yep, I think we all got that one figured out too.

[jerseyangel]

Reading the supplement section of the book. But did come across this quote from Linus Pauling, Ph.D. "If a doctor isn't 'up' on something, he's 'down' on it." Yep, I think we all got that one figured out too.

I love it!!

[Green12]

Well, I am happy...as I was going over the list of low histamine foods (making a grocery list for Saturday), I noticed that plums are on there. Where I work there, they have quite a lot of shrubbery...last year someone told me that there were some plum trees on the property...never knew where they were until this morning. There are tons out there and they have lots of plums on them. I've had two so far...trying really hard not to eat the third one that is staring at me (staring dingos and staring plums)... They are sweet but are still pretty firm. Yum. Eeek, must eat the third one, lol.

Staring dingos and staring plums

You know, a thought on sugar (some of you mentioned about having a problem with sugar in the last couple of pages). I remember reading something at one of the links for a low histamine diet and it keeps coming back to me, like another piece of the puzzle:

"Its also important (at least initially) when on a low histamine diet to eliminate sugar from your diet. This is because sugar causes your body to release adrenaline. If your histamine level is high two things can happen when you eat sugar. The first is that your adrenaline level may spike causing; nervous energy, worsening dizziness symptoms, and possibly even a panic attack. The second is that the sugar may cause your body to use up its already (histamine) depleted supply of adrenaline. This may cause periods of very low energy or even exhaustion within an hour or so after eating sugar. Fruit sugar (fructose), honey, and real maple sugar won't increase your adrenaline level, so they're OK to use instead of sugar."

Not that "not eating" sugar is big news, but it puts it into perspective as it relates to histamine, allergies, reactions, and the nervous system.

Oooooh, my scientific self is coming back to me! It had gone away for a little while...

[Green12]

How can I give prozac to a dove.....

Susan!

I feel very bad about the dove too, but what can you do, nature took its course.

[jenvan]

This thread is way over my head Did I miss a discussion on Pilates? I am a moderately die-hard fan of it now. I haven't been taking for very long, but already the abs are becoming more defined. (As soon as I get my full six-pack I'll make a picture of it my avatar : ) Anywho, it is great form of exercise, esp for folks with fibromyalgia...one of my instructors has it, the other's mom has it. It has already improved my posture--seriously! I really enjoy it. If you are into it, I definitely recommend taking a few classes if you can, just to get the form right. It isn't a no-brainer exercise. Form is really important and affects what you get out of the exercises. I went to another studio previously where the classes are too big and later realized I was doing everything wrong...no wonder it seemed easy!

[jerseyangel]

This thread is way over my head Did I miss a discussion on Pilates? I am a moderately die-hard fan of it now. I haven't been taking for very long, but already the abs are becoming more defined. (As soon as I get my full six-pack I'll make a picture of it my avatar : ) Anywho, it is great form of exercise, esp for folks with fibromyalgia...one of my instructors has it, the other's mom has it. It has already improved my posture--seriously! I really enjoy it. If you are into it, I definitely recommend taking a few classes if you can, just to get the form right. It isn't a no-brainer exercise. Form is really important and affects what you get out of the exercises. I went to another studio previously where the classes are too big and later realized I was doing everything wrong...no wonder it seemed easy!

Jen! How wonderful to have you here in Rachelville You need to come by more often. I can't wait to see your 6-pack avatar! I agree--Pilates is wonderful

[jenyanderson]

Pshew! Glad that babysitting nightmare is over. I had to watch not only my two kids and my two dogs, I had to watch my flaky neighbor's 10 month and 3 year old girls. It would not have been so bad if she hadn't fed the 3 year old candy for lunch. I can put up with cleaning dirty bottles and rear ends, but jeez! She brought over her psycho dog and asked if I could watch her too because she pooed in her crate this morning and by noon she hadn't had the time to clean it out. I know I'm ranting, but right now I really want to move far far away from her.

[penguin]

Pshew! Glad that babysitting nightmare is over. I had to watch not only my two kids and my two dogs, I had to watch my flaky neighbor's 10 month and 3 year old girls. It would not have been so bad if she hadn't fed the 3 year old candy for lunch. I can put up with cleaning dirty bottles and rear ends, but jeez! She brought over her psycho dog and asked if I could watch her too because she pooed in her crate this morning and by noon she hadn't had the time to clean it out. I know I'm ranting, but right now I really want to move far far away from her.

Repeat after me: "I'd love to, but I really can't"

Or: "No."

It'll save you plenty of butts, most of all your own

[DingoGirl]

Hi Jen!! This thread, over your head??? Well.....then just skip past all the science lessons and join in on the lunacy, plenty of that here and you'll fit right in! We've created our own Gluten-Free Dairy-forSome Insect-free Paradise Cult Farm.......plenty of fun for all! (er, Celiacs and significant others, that is)

Okay, I'm goign to take a pilates class and THEN see if my abs hurt......

[AndreaB]

Jeny,

You survived.....we knew you would.....even if barely.

Jen,

Welcome to the thread, come back once in awhile.

Rachel,

Glad to hear that you are doing better. I would have had no sympathy for you either.

Susan,

Have a wonderful time at the beach! The dingo girls will be so jealous.

Julie,

Thanks for always having something to teach us.

Donna,

Plums are small so you can eat more of them right?

Patti,

Trust you are feeling better today.

Chelsea,

Hope your day is going well.

Cecile,

If I'm not on when you are.......HI! and miss you. We need to try and coordinate being on at the same time for even just a little bit.

I'm trying to cut back my time here. Doing a smidgen better. So much to keep up on.

Tavi, Miamia,

Are you feeling ok today?

Hello to everyone else.

[dlp252]

Staring dingos and staring plums

You know, a thought on sugar (some of you mentioned about having a problem with sugar in the last couple of pages). I remember reading something at one of the links for a low histamine diet and it keeps coming back to me, like another piece of the puzzle:

"Its also important (at least initially) when on a low histamine diet to eliminate sugar from your diet. This is because sugar causes your body to release adrenaline. If your histamine level is high two things can happen when you eat sugar. The first is that your adrenaline level may spike causing; nervous energy, worsening dizziness symptoms, and possibly even a panic attack. The second is that the sugar may cause your body to use up its already (histamine) depleted supply of adrenaline. This may cause periods of very low energy or even exhaustion within an hour or so after eating sugar. Fruit sugar (fructose), honey, and real maple sugar won't increase your adrenaline level, so they're OK to use instead of sugar."

Not that "not eating" sugar is big news, but it puts it into perspective as it relates to histamine, allergies, reactions, and the nervous system.

Oooooh, my scientific self is coming back to me! It had gone away for a little while...

I just know sugar is one of the keys for me, but I'm just so darned addicted! Fortunately I like fruit and honey (wonder if Agave is okay) and real maple syrup.

Plums are small so you can eat more of them right?

Hoping, hoping, hoping.

[Daxin]

Nikki-uk -- PGFCF is Paradise Gluten Free Cult Farm

Rachel -- Glad to hear about the ice cream..hope the nest batch is even better.

Julie -- I did not know carageenen (sp) had gluten in it. I will have to check the ice cream that DW bought for me and make sure. She is usually better at reading labels than most but we all have a "brain fart" from time to time.

Susan -- I am trying to switch him to a gluten free diet. Right now I am only at about "gluten reduced" He says the bread and baked goods smell funny. He may be right, but that cake my wife made the other night from the "Gluten free gourmet" was excellent, and he did not even know the difference. I hate to trick him like that, but sometimes that's what it takes. He is being taken of the Ritalin now and but on the one a day Straterra. They have similar side effects, but the new one is a non-stimulant base. Hope it works. it seems to be as they are having him on bith right now, but a shorter acting Ritalin than before. (thank god for military health care )

Well, should go get ready for work now.

[Green12]

Julie -- I did not know carageenen (sp) had gluten in it. I will have to check the ice cream that DW bought for me and make sure. She is usually better at reading labels than most but we all have a "brain fart" from time to time.

Daxin,

Carageenan is a hidden source of MSG, a problematic ingredient for some of us.

[Daxin]

Daxin,

Carageenan is a hidden source of MSG, a problematic ingredient for some of us.

I have learned something new every day so far here!

Makes me wonder how I everlearned anything before

[VydorScope]

Dax... did you see my reply to you? I know stuff gets lsot here fast

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[Rachel--24]

A couple of things, have you checked your cream ingredients? I know that a few brands around here have carageenan added.

Also, how much water are you suppose to drink? Last time I remember you got a little sick, it might have been water overdose, which can be an issue. I think if you took in a glass every half hour, or space it out, it will give your body time to adjust to the water intake. Unless they have directions saying otherwise? I don't know, just a thought I had.

Good luck with your appt.

Julie,

My cream doesnt have any "extras" in it...its just organic cream. I'm totally careful...reading labels like a freak.

Working in a grocery store I've always seen people studying labels and being real choosy about their food. I thought they were "weird" cuz I couldnt understand why anyone would spend all that time looking at ingredients. See what happened....its karma....this is what I get for not being so understanding in my healthy days. Lesson learned....the hard way.

It probably wasnt the water that got me sick last time. That was when I was gorging on dried fruit and jam with my Edward and Sons crackers....and what did I do? I blamed the water!

Now I know why I had so many mouth blisters and so much ovary pain.

I could never find a reason for those mouth sores...they were so random. I was thinking sulfites for awhile but then I would get them from stuff totally sulfite free. Now I'm noticing they just show up whenever I'm having any histamine reaction....maybe its part of the histamine reaction so doesnt really pertain to any specific food...just high histamine levels.

So then Rach.. I assume you liked it ? What recipe you use?

Yeah...it was really good....better than store bought even. I never expected it to be so good!!

I used

1 cup whole milk

2 cups heavy cream

3/4 cup sugar

2 teaspoons vanilla

Have you tried this??

Well, I am happy...as I was going over the list of low histamine foods (making a grocery list for Saturday), I noticed that plums are on there.

Donna,

What list are you following? All the lists I seen show plums as being high in histamine.

"Its also important (at least initially) when on a low histamine diet to eliminate sugar from your diet. This is because sugar causes your body to release adrenaline. If your histamine level is high two things can happen when you eat sugar. The first is that your adrenaline level may spike causing; nervous energy, worsening dizziness symptoms, and possibly even a panic attack. The second is that the sugar may cause your body to use up its already (histamine) depleted supply of adrenaline. This may cause periods of very low energy or even exhaustion within an hour or so after eating sugar. Fruit sugar (fructose), honey, and real maple sugar won't increase your adrenaline level, so they're OK to use instead of sugar."

Maybe this is why I got that crazy reaction when I first ate the ice cream but on a full stomach with lots of carbs....no bad histamine reaction.