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Poisoned At The Dentist?

Mango04

By Mango04
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Has anyone else had really weird reactions, as in feeling "poisoned" for a week after getting dental work done? Could it be from the novacaine, or whatever it is they numb you with? I had never been numbed at the dentist (as far as I can remember - no fillings or anything), so maybe it's normal, but I have felt SO WEIRD since I got some dental work done last week.

They also did impressions and took and impression of my bite line with this weird whip cream like substance, so god only knows what's in that stuff. I guess it could be gluten, but it really doesn't feel like that. I've had crazy brain fog, really intense night sweats (like I have to wake up and take a shower at 2:30 in the morning), shakiness, really dark urine even though I drink tons of water, dizziness, I keep dropping things, I just feel really blah in general. I mean it's not so bad that I can't function, it's just weird.

The only cause I can think of is the dentist. Does this happen to anyone else???? Or is this just a new form of glutening from whatever was in that nasty impression and whip creamy stuff????

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Has anyone else had really weird reactions, as in feeling "poisoned" for a week after getting dental work done? Could it be from the novacaine, or whatever it is they numb you with? I had never been numbed at the dentist (as far as I can remember - no fillings or anything), so maybe it's normal, but I have felt SO WEIRD since I got some dental work done last week.

They also did impressions and took and impression of my bite line with this weird whip cream like substance, so god only knows what's in that stuff. I guess it could be gluten, but it really doesn't feel like that. I've had crazy brain fog, really intense night sweats (like I have to wake up and take a shower at 2:30 in the morning), shakiness, really dark urine even though I drink tons of water, dizziness, I keep dropping things, I just feel really blah in general. I mean it's not so bad that I can't function, it's just weird.

The only cause I can think of is the dentist. Does this happen to anyone else???? Or is this just a new form of glutening from whatever was in that nasty impression and whip creamy stuff????

Hi,

I have had severe reactions to gluten after being in the dentist office. It leaves me sick for several days with "brain fog". The last time I had it I couldn't write out the check to pay for my visit and my husband had to almost carry me out of the office. I had been fine when I went in. The dentist said he had a few Celiac patients, but when he asked me if I ever had a problem with the topical anesthetic, I said No but a little bell went off in my head. Immediately after that I started to feel very weird. To make a long story short I found a new dentist who is working with me. he promised to never put any substance in my mouth which could harm me. I really appreciate him taking the time to call manufacturers to safeguard my well being. I no longer use the topical anesthetic, I just take the shot and I am fine. My advice to you is to read all the labels,

tell them to make your appt time a little longer and know what they are giving you. He also wrote about the dangers on my chart so no one can contaminate me. This also applies to the cleanings. Clan Thompson makes a little guide book on medications which do not contain gluten and they do include dental materials.

If you have any questions please PM me and I will try to help. Some people also blame the powder in the gloves, I'm not sure about that. Hope this helps.

Mango04 Enthusiast
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Thanks, that does help. It just doesn't feel like a glutening. It feels like I'm being "poisoned" by something else, but who knows! Thanks for the response!

shai76 Explorer
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A lot of the stuff they use to clean your teeth contain milk, as well as medicines they might use to numb you or put you out. You should really tell the dentist that you can not have stuff containing gluten or dairy in your mouth or injected into you. If he doesn't get the picture tell him you've had life threatening reactions in the past. That will get him to really pay attention.

Green12 Enthusiast
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Has anyone else had really weird reactions, as in feeling "poisoned" for a week after getting dental work done? Could it be from the novacaine, or whatever it is they numb you with? I had never been numbed at the dentist (as far as I can remember - no fillings or anything), so maybe it's normal, but I have felt SO WEIRD since I got some dental work done last week.

They also did impressions and took and impression of my bite line with this weird whip cream like substance, so god only knows what's in that stuff. I guess it could be gluten, but it really doesn't feel like that. I've had crazy brain fog, really intense night sweats (like I have to wake up and take a shower at 2:30 in the morning), shakiness, really dark urine even though I drink tons of water, dizziness, I keep dropping things, I just feel really blah in general. I mean it's not so bad that I can't function, it's just weird.

The only cause I can think of is the dentist. Does this happen to anyone else???? Or is this just a new form of glutening from whatever was in that nasty impression and whip creamy stuff????

I haven't been to the dentist for a long time, but I could never handle any kind of anesthesia that they gave me. First of all they would have to give me so much because it wouldn't take and then when I would finally get numb I would be out. Afterwards I never felt 'right'. It would take me a couple weeks to get it out of my system.

trents Grand Master
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IF your urine is dark, I would entertain the possibility of a UTI. It could also explain your feeling poorly in general. Your symptoms, or some of them, may be coincidental to what went on at the dentist.

Steve

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One of my dentist's assistant has a celiac disease and they are very cautious - when I chatted with the dentist about my food issues, she immediatly checked the ingredients of what was going to go in my mouth to see if I could have it...I have been having my teeth fixed after avoiding the dentist for a loooonnnngggg time.

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IF your urine is dark, I would entertain the possibility of a UTI. It could also explain your feeling poorly in general. Your symptoms, or some of them, may be coincidental to what went on at the dentist.

Steve

I agree. You should go to the doctor, my grandfather had dark urine and didn't go for a while, when he finally did they found out that his UTI had gotten so bad that his kidneys were starting to shut down. Go to the doctor now, you could get out with some antibiotics, or he could tell you that you are fine. It sure beats kidney failure.

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I agree. You should go to the doctor, my grandfather had dark urine and didn't go for a while, when he finally did they found out that his UTI had gotten so bad that his kidneys were starting to shut down. Go to the doctor now, you could get out with some antibiotics, or he could tell you that you are fine. It sure beats kidney failure.

Hmmm...I never thought of that, thanks for the advice.

I haven't been to the dentist for a long time, but I could never handle any kind of anesthesia that they gave me. First of all they would have to give me so much because it wouldn't take and then when I would finally get numb I would be out. Afterwards I never felt 'right'. It would take me a couple weeks to get it out of my system.

That's exactly what happened to me. They kept giving me more and more anesthesia...they gave me soooo much it was ridiculous.

Thanks for the insight everyone.

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I had the same problems from the anesthesia....I felt weird and poisoned after they did all that to me too. I felt they were excessive with the numbing cream and shots. I remember after the first experience I had to go back and I told him straight up that I did NOT want any numbing. I would rather deal with the pain. I think he numbed me anyway. :(

That was about a month before my health went downhill.

Mango04 Enthusiast
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I had the same problems from the anesthesia....I felt weird and poisoned after they did all that to me too. I felt they were excessive with the numbing cream and shots. I remember after the first experience I had to go back and I told him straight up that I did NOT want any numbing. I would rather deal with the pain. I think he numbed me anyway. :(

That was about a month before my health went downhill.

Gosh, that's scary. It's weird becasue I just know that something at the dentist "poisoned" me. I don't know if I was neccessarily glutened or dairy'd...but it was something.

So...I had to get that dental work done last week because I'm getting four veneers put in my mouth (in about a week and a half). Should I be worried about what might be in the glue they use for those???? Will they even tell me if I ask?

judy05 Apprentice
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Gosh, that's scary. It's weird becasue I just know that something at the dentist "poisoned" me. I don't know if I was neccessarily glutened or dairy'd...but it was something.

So...I had to get that dental work done last week because I'm getting four veneers put in my mouth (in about a week and a half). Should I be worried about what might be in the glue they use for those???? Will they even tell me if I ask?

Demand that they tell you or refuse to have it done. Only you know how your body feels!

nursestherapies Rookie
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I used to have reactions from the toothpaste they used at the Dentist. Now I just have them use plain pumice without flavorings or colorings and do fine. Karen

KaitiUSA Enthusiast
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I have been glutened at the dentist before so now we check everything that he ever puts in my mouth.

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Mango04 Enthusiast
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I HATE the dentist! I was just there and I explained what happened to me the last time I was injected with that anesthetic stuff. She said she absolutely HAD to inject me with it again. Going without was not an option. She gave me a weaker version and then complained that she had to "tip toe" around my teeth because I would not let her numb me more.

Ugh...I know I shouldn't complain. I'm getting the veneers becasue I'm actually missing teeth, so it's not a totally cosmetic thing, but now I wish I had never gotten myself into this. The veneers were all chipped and they made me look like a horse, so they sent them back to the lab...which means I get to go in once more next week and get injected with that stuff again. But they said they can't do anything about the horse thing. They just have to be that way. B) My natural teeth are really little and the veneers are about four times bigger. Yay for pretty horse teeth.

I just had to vent <_< They did say they will print me out lists of all the ingredients in all of the things they put in my mouth or inject me with, so I guess that's good....

lindalee Enthusiast
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I HATE the dentist! I was just there and I explained what happened to me the last time I was injected with that anesthetic stuff. She said she absolutely HAD to inject me with it again. Going without was not an option. She gave me a weaker version and then complained that she had to "tip toe" around my teeth because I would not let her numb me more.

Ugh...I know I shouldn't complain. I'm getting the veneers becasue I'm actually missing teeth, so it's not a totally cosmetic thing, but now I wish I had never gotten myself into this. The veneers were all chipped and they made me look like a horse, so they sent them back to the lab...which means I get to go in once more next week and get injected with that stuff again. But they said they can't do anything about the horse thing. They just have to be that way. B) My natural teeth are really little and the veneers are about four times bigger. Yay for pretty horse teeth.

I just had to vent <_< They did say they will print me out lists of all the ingredients in all of the things they put in my mouth or inject me with, so I guess that's good....

I'm glad they are doing that for you. It also helps with awareness. Enamel problems go with Celiacs. I didn't realize I needed to be gluten-free when I went - didn't think the numbness would ever go away. It would come and go for weeks. I had peridontal work. Then root canal. I kept getting infections. LindaLee

kabowman Explorer
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I guess I am really lucky, my dental hygentist has food intolerances and her daughter has gluten and soy intolerances so when I ask what they use, she tells me exactly - and when I asked my dentist about stuff she was putting in/on, she immediatly read the ingredients and asked if all of them were OK to use or not.

gabby Enthusiast
gabby
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Not sure if this was mentioned....but could it have been powder from the gloves?

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I HATE the dentist! I was just there and I explained what happened to me the last time I was injected with that anesthetic stuff. She said she absolutely HAD to inject me with it again. Going without was not an option. She gave me a weaker version and then complained that she had to "tip toe" around my teeth because I would not let her numb me more.

Ugh...I know I shouldn't complain. I'm getting the veneers becasue I'm actually missing teeth, so it's not a totally cosmetic thing, but now I wish I had never gotten myself into this. The veneers were all chipped and they made me look like a horse, so they sent them back to the lab...which means I get to go in once more next week and get injected with that stuff again. But they said they can't do anything about the horse thing. They just have to be that way. B) My natural teeth are really little and the veneers are about four times bigger. Yay for pretty horse teeth.

I just had to vent <_< They did say they will print me out lists of all the ingredients in all of the things they put in my mouth or inject me with, so I guess that's good....

Boy can I sympathize. You need to insist that they not just print out the list but that they take the time to check it before you go back. I trusted my dentist and still continued to get sick. I later found out all they did was write celiac in my chart and did not bother to check anything. Make them put it in writing. If they won't I would take my veneers in a box and have another celiac savvy dentist put them on.

kbtoyssni Contributor
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I also have the dentist use the plain pumice with no flavoring to clean my teeth. I've never had anything other than a cleaning so I can't help you there.

Hummingbird-Hill Newbie
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Dear Mango: I have celiac disease and sjogrens syndrome. Because of this I go to the dentist very regularly. I have a personal relationship with my office and have paid for my dentists son's college education. Not that I mind because I love her. BUT, I understand where you're coming from. The first thing you have to do is find a good dentist that is not going to complain about your ailments and tip-toing around your mouth. Your hiring and paying her for goodness sake. I have a reaction to epinephrin in the novicain so I have it without the epi. This helps as I no longer have rapid heart palpatation now, only from anxiety not introduced meds. I have had many crowns because of my deteriorating teeth. My teeth are literally melting away because of the lack of saliva. I don't know what I would do if I didn't trust my dentist. I wouldn't let your dentist come near me with a ten foot pole. He should be doing as much research as necessary to find the answer to your problems and finding the alternative if available for your impressions, injections, etc. I know it is a bother but that's what you pay him for. I hope this helps. :D

Mango04 Enthusiast
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That does help. It's nice to know I'm not the only one who has issues with this. I hate being in a situation where I'm not in control of what's being injected into me. It's a really frustrating feeling...

tammy Community Regular
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Hopefully you will get used to your veneers and like them too. :D

May I see your list of ingredients for the anesthetic stuff?

Thanks!

Green12 Enthusiast
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That does help. It's nice to know I'm not the only one who has issues with this. I hate being in a situation where I'm not in control of what's being injected into me. It's a really frustrating feeling...

Mango, when I got all of my mercury fillings out I went to a special kind of dentist. I can't remember what exactly his title was, it's been some time, but he was very very cautious and knowledgeable about allergies/sensitivities and auto-immune conditions. He tested substances with kiniseology before using anything that went into or around my mouth, and especially the replacement fillings.

Maybe you could find this kind of dentist in your neck of the woods.

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Mango, when I got all of my mercury fillings out I went to a special kind of dentist. I can't remember what exactly his title was, it's been some time, but he was very very cautious and knowledgeable about allergies/sensitivities and auto-immune conditions. He tested substances with kiniseology before using anything that went into or around my mouth, and especially the replacement fillings.

Maybe you could find this kind of dentist in your neck of the woods.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into that.

May I see your list of ingredients for the anesthetic stuff?

Sure. When (er if) they give it to me I'll definitely post it.

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