Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Got Dd's Enterolab Results--can You Help?


Sally's Mommy

Recommended Posts

Sally's Mommy Newbie

Here's some background info: My DD is almost 4. She is in the 95%ile for height and weight. As a baby she would get a red rash around her mouth sometimes, and I never pinpointed what it was caused by, but my best guess was Cheerios.

Her BMs have always been poorly formed--always soft, and often runny. She has always complained of her tummy hurting.

Anyway, I sent off a stool sample to Enterolab, and here is her result:

Fecal Antigliadin IgA 14 (Normal Range <10 Units)

Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA 6 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)

Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score 69 Units (Normal Range <300 Units)

Fecal anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA antibody 7 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0201

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0604

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 2,1 (Subtype 2,6)

So, should we do further testing? I'm just not sure what to do with this. Her results are almost all normal, and the IgA one isn't that far off. I'm not even sure I really understand the results!

Can anyone help me make sense of this and of what we should do from here?

Thanks so much!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



CarlaB Enthusiast

The IgA indicates she is having a reaction to the gluten, but the other score indicates it is not an autoimmune reaction. I'm too new to know how it all progresses, but her immune system is reacting to the gluten, and I'm sure Enterolab indicated this means gluten-free for life. I would say to put her on a gluten-free diet and see how it goes. The low score might just mean you caught it early.

My daughter's scores were much lower than mine. She is 13 and has learning difficulties, but no digestive reaction to gluten. Her first two numbers were 30 and 14. She eats gluten-free and I've explained to her that she just caught it before she had the problems I was having. This keeps her gluten-free and she is very dilligent about it. My first two numbers were 60 and 44, and I had been gluten-free for three months prior to testing.

mmaccartney Explorer
Fecal Antigliadin IgA 14 (Normal Range <10 Units)

Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA 6 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)

Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score 69 Units (Normal Range <300 Units)

Fecal anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA antibody 7 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0201

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0604

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 2,1 (Subtype 2,6)

What I can tell you is this:

Positive IgA = response to gluten.

Negative ttg / neg malabsorbtion = no actual damage to intestinal villi as a result of gluten sensitivity

HLADQ2 Subtype 2 is a Celiac gene.

So, it appears to me that your daughter (what does Dd mean anyway?) has active gluten sensitivity, without actual damage being caused...yet. With the HLADQ2 gene, she is predisposed to celiac disease, but may never get it.

In a nutshell, the IgA response indicates gluten sensitivity; if she continues to eat gluten, the problems can continue and increase, and (due to genetics) can become "celiac" with intestinal damage being caused.

Hope that helps!

AndreaB Contributor

Your daughters numbers are similar to my daughters. She was 14, 8, 45 and 7 respectively. From everything I understand she has an active gluten intolerance which means gluten free for life. On the positive side, it was caught before damage was done. She has the one celiac gene (subtype 2) which predisposes to celiac. You don't need any other testing for gluten but you could still test for other allergies if you wanted too.

Sally's Mommy Newbie

Thank you for your replies. I guess I need to take a deep breath and figure out how to do this now! I actually suspect I may have gluten sensitivity, and I have a 15 year old son with Down syndrome who probably needs to be tested. He has no symptoms, but last night I googled photos of DH and literally gasped out loud when I saw the pictures. I am absolutely positive that his skin issues are DH--even my husband who is skeptical of this whole thing could not believe how the photos of DH mirror my son's body.

I can't decide if I ought to find a GI doctor, a dermatologist, a GP, or anybody who is willing to accept Enterolab results, or not worry about the medical community and just do the diet. I'm afraid if I don't have medical backing, I won't have the resolve to be firm about the diet when I'm faced with school officials, in-laws, etc....

Uggh. A part of me wishes I had never ordered the Enterolab test for DD3 and had remained blissfully ignorant.

AndreaB Contributor

I know it is a difficult undertaking at first. Especially with the doctors. I'm homeschooling so I don't need to worry about school. I sent the enterolab results to my doctor...haven't heard what she thinks of them. I would get your son's possible DH biopsied for sure. If you let people know the area you are in/or near maybe someone on the board can recommend someone.

Parents can be difficult to say the least...but they are your children. You should be able to show them the enterolab results of your daughter for enough proof for her anyway. The gluten free diet can be just as healthy as any other diet...and as with any other diet we can make it unhealthy buy not eating a variety of foods. I'm somewhat guilty of that. So many children on this forum have had positive diet changes, maybe you could start a new thread asking about help with schools if you don't have an official diagnosis from your doctor.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,268
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    MaryCan231
    Newest Member
    MaryCan231
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Wheatwacked
      They both do.  The peanuts add nutrients to the treat. Tootsie Roll: Sugar, Corn Syrup, Palm Oil, Condensed Skim Milk, Cocoa, Whey, Soy Lecithin, Artificial and Natural Flavors. M&M Peanut: milk chocolate (sugar, chocolate, skim milk, cocoa butter, lactose, milkfat, peanuts, soy lecithin, salt, natural flavor), peanuts, sugar, cornstarch; less than 1% of: palm oil, corn syrup, dextrin, colors (includes blue 2 lake, blue 1 lake, red 40, yellow 6 lake, yellow 5, yellow 6, blue 1, yelskim milk contains caseinlow 5 lake, blue 2, red 40 lake), carnauba wax, gum acacia. glycemic index of Tootsie Rolls ~83 gycemic index of M&M Peanuts ~33   The composition of non-fat solids of skim milk is: 52.15% lactose, 38.71% protein (31.18% casein, 7.53% whey protein), 1.08% fat, and 8.06% ash.   https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781118810279.ch04  Milkfat carries the fat soluble vitamins A, D, E, and K. The solids-not-fat portion [of milk] consists of protein (primarily casein and lactalbumin), carbohydrates (primarily lactose), and minerals (including calcium and phosphorus). https://ansc.umd.edu/sites/ansc.umd.edu/files/files/documents/Extension/Milk-Definitions.pdf
    • Scott Adams
      But M&M's contain milk, and would not be at all like a Tootsie Roll.
    • Jmartes71
      I appreciate you validating me because medical is an issue and it's not ok at all they they do this. Some days I just want to call the news media and just call out these doctors especially when they are supposed to be specialist Downplaying when gluten-free when they should know gluten-free is false negative. Now dealing with other issues and still crickets for disability because I show no signs of celiac BECAUSE IM GLUTENFREE! Actively dealing with sibo and skin issues.Depression is the key because thats all they know, im depressed because medical has caused it because of my celiac and related issues. I should have never ever been employed as a bus driver.After 3 years still healing and ZERO income desperately trying to get better but no careteam for celiac other than stay away frim wheat! Now im having care because my head is affected either ms or meningioma in go in tomorrow again for more scans.I know im slowly dying and im looking like a disability chaser
    • Wheatwacked
      M&M Peanuts. About the same calories and sugar while M&M Peanuts have fiber, potassium, iron and protein that Tootsie Rolls ("We are currently producing more than 50 million Tootsie Rolls each day.") don't. Click the links to compare nutritional values.  Both are made with sugar, not high fructose corn syrup.  I use them as a gluten free substitute for a peanut butter sandwich.  Try her on grass fed, pasture fed milk. While I get heartburn at night from commercial dairy milk, I do not from 'grassmilk'.     
    • Theresa2407
      I see it everyday on my feeds.  They go out and buy gluten-free processed products and wonder why they can't heal their guts.  I don't think they take it as a serious immune disease. They pick up things off the internet which is so far out in left field.  Some days I would just like to scream.  So much better when we had support groups and being able to teach them properly. I just had an EMA blood test because I haven't had one since my Doctor moved away.  Got test results today, doctor ordered a D3 vitamin test.  Now you know what  type of doctors we have.  Now I will have to pay for this test because she just tested my D3 end of December, and still have no idea about my EMA.    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.