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I Might Be An Idiot, But I Am Desperate...


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I have had D since the 3rd of April. It doesn't matter what I eat, it doesn't matter what I drink. My diet for the past 3 days has consisted of G2 Gatorade, water, tea, rice crackers, jars of baby food bananas. If I take Imodium it helps control it but I get horrible cramps and bloating. I called the doctor and asked for Lomotil on the 14th and they called in a prescription for me for 3 days worth and that was it. I went tot he doctor for this about 2 weeks ago and I was told it would pass... I am not sure what to do. I mean, aside from seeing the doctor again. Is there something I'm missing? Is there anyone else out there who gets it this bad? I feel like a freak. I mean, I can't even drink and eat a few crackers without having to be 10 feet from the bathroom. I am scared and stressed and my husband has no idea what to do with me anymore... I want my life back! If there is ANYONE out there who has gone through this, and can tell me how they managed the big D, please, please let me know. I am so desperate. Thank you in advance, sorry for being a whiner :)


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Chiana Apprentice

It costs a little more, but try picking up some pedialyte, or make this: Open Original Shared Link

Gatorade really isn't for long-term diarrhea, and can sometimes contribute to the problem. Have you tried a lot of yogurt/probiotics, and what color is your stool? (Oh, what a terrible question. :D)

Marilyn R Community Regular

Dee, I know how awful you are feeling.

This is the regimine that has worked for my mother and I many times.

For 24 hours, have nothing but liquids, like safe chicken broth, herbal tea (no caffeine), pedialite, water.

The next day, have a banana, plain mashed potatoes made without dairy products. You can also have white rice, a peeled and sliced apple or applesauce. If you're up for it, try a little plain meat, like poached skinless chicken breast.

This is a modified BRAT diet (banans, apples, rice, toast) that pediatricians have recommended for years.

There is probably soy in the rice crackers. Could soy be the problem? (It is for me!) I'd steer away from anything you don't prepare yourself (except the pedialyte), but that could just be me. And it's really hard to cook anything because you're so weak!

Blueberries are good ... they have a natural anti-D effect. Good luck, wishing you all the best!

etta694 Explorer

(Just an aside.. I had some blueberry tea the other day.. made me sick and - checked the label. Yup, soy in it. :huh: Double check your labels..)

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Did your doctor do any stool tests? If not go back and demand them. I had salmonella once for almost 3 weeks with my doctor telling me that it was just my IBS acting up (I hadn't been diagnosed celiac yet at that point). I knew this was different from the daily D I had already had for years. Even immodium wouldn't stop it for more than an hour or so and I lost 20 lbs in those 3 weeks. I finally got her to test and sure enough I had it. A short course of antibiotics cleared it up pretty quickly.

love2travel Mentor

When I get D (it is rare) I consume more fibre and that ALWAYS works. Women are to have 25 g of fibre per day; men 30 g. Apparently we only get about 10 g per day on average! Some days I struggle to get enough fibre in my diet.

IrishHeart Veteran

Don't be sorry--you are not a whiner, and you certainly aren't an idiot, hon!! ((HUGS))

I have been in your shoes with this non-stop D, cramps, bloating, and pain in the past, even ending up in the ER with dehydration. Even after going gluten-free, I still had D off and on, mostly because I had trouble digesting fats. I used digestive enzymes and they helped enormously! No more D for me--since about month 3 of absolutely no gluten, no dairy, no soy.

Here's what I have learned:

Gatorade actually creates diarrhea...stop using that ASAP.

Stop the tea too. Tea is a major gut irritant.

If you are dehydrated, mix a TaBLeSpoon of sugar and a TeaSPoon of salt into 16 oz. of water...it will do the same thing as pedialyte. I promise! It will balance your electrolytes quickly.

I did that when I was really ditzy from dehydration and it worked well. (my hubby-- the chemist-- thought of that for me :)

Were you glutened???

I am just wondering...what provoked this episode? What were you eating before this happened? Was anyone around you ill?Are you running a fever?

I hate to ask so many questions, but I am just trying to help you sort out what started it.

D is caused by a virus, a parasite, sugar or fat malasborption , food poisoning, small bowel bacterial overgrowth, among other things.

Are you newly gluten-free? your gut may just be so irritated and raw still.

Can you eat plain rice crackers (gluten-free crackers have soy and sometimes, soy is very difficult for celiacs to digest) and maybe a real banana??

(I would skip the baby food) Peel an apple and eat small bites.

I would follow the advice MarilynR suggests--small amounts of plain, boiled chicken breasts, plain rice....and you should level off.

Immodium does put a good quick HALT on diarrhea BUT it is not wise to use it for days on end.

If you have something in your gut that is causing you pain and illness (a flu bug, gluten, some other poison like Ravenwood suggests) then, you actually DO want to let it out.

The spasms that produce the big D occur because the tract is working extra hard to rid the body of whatever it does not want in there.

If there is insufficient fiber and not enough good gut flora, there's going to be watery stools.

I would suggest taking probiotics (none with dairy, though!!!) if you don't already. They provide the good bacteria you need to get your gut flora balanced out.

When I was really ill with D and lost a dramatic amount of weight(before I was DXed) I had digestive stool testing done and I had NO GOOD bacteria in my gut---that is NOT a good thing. :unsure: I read that Celiacs usually have an imbalance of good/bad gut bacteria.

Three weeks is a long time to have chronic D. I know, I had it for weeks at a time for nearly 2 years. Felt like a weak rag doll all the time.Not fun!

Please...go to your doctor if this does not stop in the next day or so, just to be sure you're not dealing with something other than the gut irritation from the celiac.

I hope this helps and I hope you feel better soon!!


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rosetapper23 Explorer

You might try taking L-Glutamine, which heals the gut. It ended years of D for me.

dilettantesteph Collaborator

I have been where you are. I had uncontrollable D for years. My idiot doc told me it was IBS and didn't even give me a blood test for celiac. After I finally found out I had celiac and went gluten free, things got a bit better but I still had problems from time to time.

What worked for me was to get off processed foods. I think that cc was getting me. Instead of baby food bananas, eat actual bananas. Instead of rice crackers, eat rice. Lundbergs seems to be the least cc. Get off the Gatoraid and tea. When the D stops you can try adding things back in one per week and you will know what items you can tolerate and which you don't. Keep a food diary. Good luck.

There are few things worse than letting loose in your pants.

Dee777 Rookie

It costs a little more, but try picking up some pedialyte, or make this: Open Original Shared Link

Gatorade really isn't for long-term diarrhea, and can sometimes contribute to the problem. Have you tried a lot of yogurt/probiotics, and what color is your stool? (Oh, what a terrible question. :D)

Sorry to all for my neglect in replying sooner, I was a little under the weather and lazing around in the bathroom :)

I did pick up the Pedialyte, and I have been drinking it faithfully. I have noticed a marked difference in my hydration, thank you for the tip! As for the color... it ranges anywhere from a lovely light tan to a medium brown. Quite similar to my hair color as a teenager LOL

Dee777 Rookie

Dee, I know how awful you are feeling.

This is the regimine that has worked for my mother and I many times.

For 24 hours, have nothing but liquids, like safe chicken broth, herbal tea (no caffeine), pedialite, water.

The next day, have a banana, plain mashed potatoes made without dairy products. You can also have white rice, a peeled and sliced apple or applesauce. If you're up for it, try a little plain meat, like poached skinless chicken breast.

This is a modified BRAT diet (banans, apples, rice, toast) that pediatricians have recommended for years.

There is probably soy in the rice crackers. Could soy be the problem? (It is for me!) I'd steer away from anything you don't prepare yourself (except the pedialyte), but that could just be me. And it's really hard to cook anything because you're so weak!

Blueberries are good ... they have a natural anti-D effect. Good luck, wishing you all the best!

Thank you for your help! I have thus far been afraid to really eat anything solid, but tomorrow I am going to start. Heck the weight loss won't hurt me anyway. When I was diagnosed I had wanted to lose 45 pounds, now all I really need to lose is 20. I know, I know, bad bad way to lose just trying to inject some humor here. Actually I don't have any reason to have to leave the hosue tomorrow and so I will give your suggestion a try... will start with the real peeled banana, and a little white rice and see where that gets me! I am also going to eliminate soy etc. and gradually add them back in after a while one thing at a time to see what the heck is triggering it. Thanks again, you were most helpful to me!

Dee777 Rookie

(Just an aside.. I had some blueberry tea the other day.. made me sick and - checked the label. Yup, soy in it. :huh: Double check your labels..)

Ah, labels labels... I have read them until I am cross-eyed!!! Dang things. I have gotten to where if I can't pronounce it, I don't eat it, plain and simple. Thank you for the reminder though, silly things us celiacs can't eat!!! I appreciate your help!

Dee777 Rookie

Did your doctor do any stool tests? If not go back and demand them. I had salmonella once for almost 3 weeks with my doctor telling me that it was just my IBS acting up (I hadn't been diagnosed celiac yet at that point). I knew this was different from the daily D I had already had for years. Even immodium wouldn't stop it for more than an hour or so and I lost 20 lbs in those 3 weeks. I finally got her to test and sure enough I had it. A short course of antibiotics cleared it up pretty quickly.

I am going to the doctor this afternoon, and I will request the stool tests. My doctor is very sympathetic to my cause and generally if I ask for something like a test in particular he has no problem giving it a try. Imodium helps most of the time but I find if I take the plain Imodium I get all sorts of cramping and gas and bloating and writhe around like a fat worm until it wears off. So I tried the Imodium that covers gas and bloating as well and it is better. Will let you know how the tests come out, thanks for the information, it was very helpful!

Dee777 Rookie

When I get D (it is rare) I consume more fibre and that ALWAYS works. Women are to have 25 g of fibre per day; men 30 g. Apparently we only get about 10 g per day on average! Some days I struggle to get enough fibre in my diet.

I agree that we don't get enough fibre in our diets! I will certainly keep that in mind for when I can eat again LOL Thank you for the reminder and for your advice it's appreciated!

Dee777 Rookie

Don't be sorry--you are not a whiner, and you certainly aren't an idiot, hon!! ((HUGS))

I have been in your shoes with this non-stop D, cramps, bloating, and pain in the past, even ending up in the ER with dehydration. Even after going gluten-free, I still had D off and on, mostly because I had trouble digesting fats. I used digestive enzymes and they helped enormously! No more D for me--since about month 3 of absolutely no gluten, no dairy, no soy.

Here's what I have learned:

Gatorade actually creates diarrhea...stop using that ASAP.

Stop the tea too. Tea is a major gut irritant.

If you are dehydrated, mix a TaBLeSpoon of sugar and a TeaSPoon of salt into 16 oz. of water...it will do the same thing as pedialyte. I promise! It will balance your electrolytes quickly.

I did that when I was really ditzy from dehydration and it worked well. (my hubby-- the chemist-- thought of that for me :)

Were you glutened???

I am just wondering...what provoked this episode? What were you eating before this happened? Was anyone around you ill?Are you running a fever?

I hate to ask so many questions, but I am just trying to help you sort out what started it.

D is caused by a virus, a parasite, sugar or fat malasborption , food poisoning, small bowel bacterial overgrowth, among other things.

Are you newly gluten-free? your gut may just be so irritated and raw still.

Can you eat plain rice crackers (gluten-free crackers have soy and sometimes, soy is very difficult for celiacs to digest) and maybe a real banana??

(I would skip the baby food) Peel an apple and eat small bites.

I would follow the advice MarilynR suggests--small amounts of plain, boiled chicken breasts, plain rice....and you should level off.

Immodium does put a good quick HALT on diarrhea BUT it is not wise to use it for days on end.

If you have something in your gut that is causing you pain and illness (a flu bug, gluten, some other poison like Ravenwood suggests) then, you actually DO want to let it out.

The spasms that produce the big D occur because the tract is working extra hard to rid the body of whatever it does not want in there.

If there is insufficient fiber and not enough good gut flora, there's going to be watery stools.

I would suggest taking probiotics (none with dairy, though!!!) if you don't already. They provide the good bacteria you need to get your gut flora balanced out.

When I was really ill with D and lost a dramatic amount of weight(before I was DXed) I had digestive stool testing done and I had NO GOOD bacteria in my gut---that is NOT a good thing. :unsure: I read that Celiacs usually have an imbalance of good/bad gut bacteria.

Three weeks is a long time to have chronic D. I know, I had it for weeks at a time for nearly 2 years. Felt like a weak rag doll all the time.Not fun!

Please...go to your doctor if this does not stop in the next day or so, just to be sure you're not dealing with something other than the gut irritation from the celiac.

I hope this helps and I hope you feel better soon!!

Holy COW... you are one wealth of information, aren't you??? :) Thank you thank you for it all, I have started a probiotic recommended to me by my pharmacist and it seems to have slowed things down, have been feeling better although things have not stopped yet. I started them Saturday night so haven't been on them long at all. I can't remember what I ate prior to getting ill, and I am eliminating ALL dairy for a while will slowly re-introduce it at a later time. Thank you SO much for your help!

Dee777 Rookie

You might try taking L-Glutamine, which heals the gut. It ended years of D for me.

Thank you so much for the tip, I am going to go check into that today with the pharmacist who has been so patient with my questions! Your help is much appreciated!

Dee777 Rookie

I have been where you are. I had uncontrollable D for years. My idiot doc told me it was IBS and didn't even give me a blood test for celiac. After I finally found out I had celiac and went gluten free, things got a bit better but I still had problems from time to time.

What worked for me was to get off processed foods. I think that cc was getting me. Instead of baby food bananas, eat actual bananas. Instead of rice crackers, eat rice. Lundbergs seems to be the least cc. Get off the Gatoraid and tea. When the D stops you can try adding things back in one per week and you will know what items you can tolerate and which you don't. Keep a food diary. Good luck.

There are few things worse than letting loose in your pants.

I haven't had the baby food since Saturday, I laid off the crackers and will try the plain rice tomorrow as per my earlier post... You made me laugh with your letting loose in the pants comment, seriously I needed that laugh thank you SO much for the advice and the humor!!! Oh and I switched from Gatorade to Pedialyte and no more tea for me for a while!

IrishHeart Veteran

Holy COW... you are one wealth of information, aren't you??? :) Thank you thank you for it all, I have started a probiotic recommended to me by my pharmacist and it seems to have slowed things down, have been feeling better although things have not stopped yet. I started them Saturday night so haven't been on them long at all. I can't remember what I ate prior to getting ill, and I am eliminating ALL dairy for a while will slowly re-introduce it at a later time. Thank you SO much for your help!

:rolleyes: (chuckling) yeah, what a topic for me to be so well-versed in, eh??...poo and how to stop it...geesh.... :blink:

I became a non-stop researching machine the last 4 years as I became so ill because NO ONE in the medical community was any real help...I only pass on what worked for me. (and reading and trying to comprehend it while my brain was impaired was pretty tricky indeed)

I truly hope you start to feel better soon. The probiotics are pretty miraculous. Give them a chance to repopulate your gut and you'll notice a difference.

You need some fiber --so ditch the dairy and eat that rice and peeled apples. Hang in there, hon!I never thought I'd get to where I am now either...but...here I am.

No D anymore...ta da!! B)

let us know how you're doing!!

Dee777 Rookie

:rolleyes: (chuckling) yeah, what a topic for me to be so well-versed in, eh??...poo and how to stop it...geesh.... :blink:

I became a non-stop researching machine the last 4 years as I became so ill because NO ONE in the medical community was any real help...I only pass on what worked for me. (and reading and trying to comprehend it while my brain was impaired was pretty tricky indeed)

I truly hope you start to feel better soon. The probiotics are pretty miraculous. Give them a chance to repopulate your gut and you'll notice a difference.

You need some fiber --so ditch the dairy and eat that rice and peeled apples. Hang in there, hon!I never thought I'd get to where I am now either...but...here I am.

No D anymore...ta da!! B)

let us know how you're doing!!

Well, everyone should be an expert at something... your area of expertise lays in poop, and i have learned I have a new talent- I can break the speed of sound making tracks for the nearest bathroom!

I had a great day today. Ate a peeled apple, and that was wonderful! For supper I had a half cup of plain boiled white rice and a little less than half a small plain baked chicken breast, and have broken that sound barrier many many times since :(

Ah well. Should have known better maybe I pushed it? I didn't need to take Imodium at all today, had to take three of them within 15 minutes. I do have a question though, if anyone knows. Can I still take the probiotics within a short time of the Imodium? Do I have to wait a certain amount of time between both? I am asking because I forgot to take a probiotic with my supper. Ah this learning curve is so steep!

Thanks! And good for you having no D anymore!!! I am dreaming of that day and will throw the biggest party this town has ever seen when it finally arrives LOL I'll put a big banner in my front window "Come celebrate with me, I no longer suffer from the big D!!!

IrishHeart Veteran

I hear ya...I know where every public bathroom is within a 150 miles radius of my house. :unsure:

For the first time in 20 years, I am NOT carrying Immodium caplets or antacids. No back-ups in the glove compartment either. :D

Miracles occur with healing the intestines. Whenever I think I am not making progress, I recall just how bad it was (I hardly left the house some days because I was doubled over in pain and my husband picked me up off the bathroom floor many times. He held cold cloths on my forehead and on the back of my neck because I was passing out from the pain). (shudder) that was ugly...

But, now, I am so much better and I want you to feel encouraged because I NEVER thought that nightmare would end. But it did!!

This WILL happen for you, too!

How long have you been gluten-free?

I think you may be overdoing the Immodium, in my humble opinion.

I also think you need more solid food in a day than 1 apple, a bit of rice and chicken. I know you are not hungry (been there) and I know you associate eating with having the D...but the truth is, you need some bulk-forming FIBER. And that comes from FOOD. Eat more rice--spaced throughout the day. NO dairy, okay??

Are you still feeling dehydrated? If so, please consider drinking the salt/sugar/water drink I explained above so your electrolytes balance out.

Again, if this does not clear up soon, you may need to see your doctor.

I take the probiotics (mine are powder--mixed into water)on an empty stomach every morning and one dose before bed.

Okay, that's all I got....I hope you're feeling better today, Dee!

IrishHeart Veteran

I have had D since the 3rd of April. It doesn't matter what I eat, it doesn't matter what I drink. My diet for the past 3 days has consisted of G2 Gatorade, water, tea, rice crackers, jars of baby food bananas. If I take Imodium it helps control it but I get horrible cramps and bloating. I called the doctor and asked for Lomotil on the 14th and they called in a prescription for me for 3 days worth and that was it. I went tot he doctor for this about 2 weeks ago and I was told it would pass... I am not sure what to do. I mean, aside from seeing the doctor again. Is there something I'm missing? Is there anyone else out there who gets it this bad? I feel like a freak. I mean, I can't even drink and eat a few crackers without having to be 10 feet from the bathroom. I am scared and stressed and my husband has no idea what to do with me anymore... I want my life back! If there is ANYONE out there who has gone through this, and can tell me how they managed the big D, please, please let me know. I am so desperate. Thank you in advance, sorry for being a whiner :)

DEE! Read this post from today...! maybe it applies to you?

How are you feeling??

Dee777 Rookie

DEE! Read this post from today...! maybe it applies to you?

How are you feeling??

Ah, Irish Heart, you dear! I must apologize for not responding sooner, btu truth be told I have been gorked out of my head on Lomotil (it really makes me sleepy!) for days and I did come one, follow your link above and read it, then back to sleep I went. I went to see my doctor on Thursday last week, but he was away and had another in his place for the day. She admitted me to the hospital for fluid therapy as my electrolytes were whacked out of balance. After that I came home and went back to sleep lol.

Today I had to go back to my doctor this morning and I shared with him the information you passed on to me, and he immediately asked me if I would like to try the medication Cholestyramine. He said it would not hurt me, and that one of the most common side effects is constipation :) I told him if that happened I would invite him over for a barbecue! He is trying to get me in to see a gastroenterologist but they are horridly difficult to get into here where we live but he said he would see what he could do. In the meantime I am scheduled for an abdominal ultrasound this Thursday morning (I have been having discomfort in the gallbladder area) and have a prescription filled for lots more Lomotil in the meantime.

But, a funny thing happened today. I didn't eat or drink anything when I got up this morning because I had a 30 minute drive to see the doc and there are no restroom facilities between there and here. So upon arriving home at about 1 pm today I was absolutely dehydrated and famished and in a "what the heck" kind of mood (rather grumpy) so decided to make myself 2 pieces of rice toast. And I followed that with three slices of black forest ham. And a big old glass of water. I figured I was going to be sick anyway... and I wasn't. No meds, today either... This lasted for 4 hours and the D hit again afterwards but that was the longest time in between the dreaded D I have had in over a month. Maybe things are looking up? Anyway, I took some more Lomotil, just in case :) Don't want to have a miserable night to spoil my good mood.

So I will see how things go, my pharmacist didn't have the Cholestyramine in and had to order it so it won't be in until tomorrow. I will see how I am feeling when I pick it up and go from there. For now I am just trying to decide if I should try it or wait for a specialist to do tests first. Thank you so much for the link, for thinking of me and taking the time to send it, so very very kind of you and I DO thank you from the bottom of my heart!

Dee <3

IrishHeart Veteran

Ah, Irish Heart, you dear! I must apologize for not responding sooner, btu truth be told I have been gorked out of my head on Lomotil (it really makes me sleepy!) for days and I did come one, follow your link above and read it, then back to sleep I went. I went to see my doctor on Thursday last week, but he was away and had another in his place for the day. She admitted me to the hospital for fluid therapy as my electrolytes were whacked out of balance. After that I came home and went back to sleep lol.

Today I had to go back to my doctor this morning and I shared with him the information you passed on to me, and he immediately asked me if I would like to try the medication Cholestyramine. He said it would not hurt me, and that one of the most common side effects is constipation :) I told him if that happened I would invite him over for a barbecue! He is trying to get me in to see a gastroenterologist but they are horridly difficult to get into here where we live but he said he would see what he could do. In the meantime I am scheduled for an abdominal ultrasound this Thursday morning (I have been having discomfort in the gallbladder area) and have a prescription filled for lots more Lomotil in the meantime.

But, a funny thing happened today. I didn't eat or drink anything when I got up this morning because I had a 30 minute drive to see the doc and there are no restroom facilities between there and here. So upon arriving home at about 1 pm today I was absolutely dehydrated and famished and in a "what the heck" kind of mood (rather grumpy) so decided to make myself 2 pieces of rice toast. And I followed that with three slices of black forest ham. And a big old glass of water. I figured I was going to be sick anyway... and I wasn't. No meds, today either... This lasted for 4 hours and the D hit again afterwards but that was the longest time in between the dreaded D I have had in over a month. Maybe things are looking up? Anyway, I took some more Lomotil, just in case :) Don't want to have a miserable night to spoil my good mood.

So I will see how things go, my pharmacist didn't have the Cholestyramine in and had to order it so it won't be in until tomorrow. I will see how I am feeling when I pick it up and go from there. For now I am just trying to decide if I should try it or wait for a specialist to do tests first. Thank you so much for the link, for thinking of me and taking the time to send it, so very very kind of you and I DO thank you from the bottom of my heart!

Dee <3

You're so welcome, hon and I hope it resolves the D for you.

I knew your electrolytes must have been off, that's why I recommended the water,salt,sugar drink. I commiserate as I went through that awful D and abdominal pain for a very long time. Had the abdominal scans, stool samples, scopes, everything. They could never "see" anything except the tests revealed an absence of good bacteria in the gut.

The bottom line? Time and Probtiotics. Trust me. Your gut flora is all out of whack. No doctor will tell you to supplement with these, but celiacs have unbalanced gut flora for sure.

Please get some and try it. I get mine from Custom probiotics. (If they edit the name out, PM me and I'll tell you where)

TOTALLY Stopped the D, the C and now, I have normal BMs for the first time since....um :unsure: ,...well, EVER in my whole life. :) :)

Geesh, did you ever think you would be discussing poop with other people on the internet?? :lol: :lol:

me neither, but there it is... ;)

Please, keep me posted. I want to hear you are feeling better!! ;)

Dee777 Rookie

You're so welcome, hon and I hope it resolves the D for you.

I knew your electrolytes must have been off, that's why I recommended the water,salt,sugar drink. I commiserate as I went through that awful D and abdominal pain for a very long time. Had the abdominal scans, stool samples, scopes, everything. They could never "see" anything except the tests revealed an absence of good bacteria in the gut.

The bottom line? Time and Probtiotics. Trust me. Your gut flora is all out of whack. No doctor will tell you to supplement with these, but celiacs have unbalanced gut flora for sure.

Please get some and try it. I get mine from Custom probiotics. (If they edit the name out, PM me and I'll tell you where)

TOTALLY Stopped the D, the C and now, I have normal BMs for the first time since....um :unsure: ,...well, EVER in my whole life. :) :)

Geesh, did you ever think you would be discussing poop with other people on the internet?? :lol: :lol:

me neither, but there it is... ;)

Please, keep me posted. I want to hear you are feeling better!! ;)

Now that you mention it, no. I never imagined I would ever be discussing my poop condition with anyone, least of all on the internet :)

I received a call today from the office of a gastroenterologist. It appears my GP called and begged for me to have an appointment with him and lo and behold I have one for tomorrow morning at 10. I have been taking the probiotics but I am not sure if they are inside me long enough to work. Every time I have a little drink of something even water, whoosh. Down the drain. Do you order your probiotics online? I live in a small community (pop. ~5,000) in Canada, there aren't a whole lot of places here to get them so my options are limited! The ones I currently have are bought at my local drugstore.

I am a little leery about seeing the gastroenterologist. I looked him up online and have read that his bedside manner is atrocious. I guess I can go see what he has to say, I don't HAVE to do anything he suggests if I don't feel right about it, right? I am just so tired of doctors and tests and D! Not that anyone else in here isn't either! I am certain I would be insane by now if I didn't have this forum and you wonderful people!

Thank you, Irish!

Dee

ravenwoodglass Mentor

I am a little leery about seeing the gastroenterologist. I looked him up online and have read that his bedside manner is atrocious. I guess I can go see what he has to say, I don't HAVE to do anything he suggests if I don't feel right about it, right? I am just so tired of doctors and tests and D! Dee

Glad your doctor was able to get you in. Sometimes the doctors with the worst bedside manners are the best at figuring out what is going on. Hopefully that will be the case for you. I do hope you are feeling alot better soon.

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    • Rogol72
      Some interesting articles regarding the use of Zinc Carnosine to help heal gastric ulcers, gastritis and intestinal permeability. I would consult a medical professional about it's use. https://www.nature.com/articles/ncpgasthep0778 https://www.rupahealth.com/post/clinical-applications-of-zinc-carnosine---evidence-review https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7146259/ https://www.fallbrookmedicalcenter.com/zinc-l-carnosine-benefits-dosage-and-safety/
    • Jillian83
      He is. Which makes everything even more difficult. I’m not a believer in “staying for the kids” but I have nowhere to go and it’s not just me, it’s me plus my babies. We live in a beautiful place, lots of land in the country and me and the kids love the place we’ve called home for their entire lives. But Im seeing that he’ll never change, that my kids deserve a happy healthy Momma, and that staying in this as is will be the early death of me. Then I look at the scars covering my entire body…this disease and the chronic stress I’ve been enduring for years that tell me I’m no longer beautiful and no one will ever look at me with interest again. I try self care, try to give myself grace so I can just start loving myself enough to gain strength but the slightest sparkle in my eye and skip in my step attracts his wrath and it all comes crashing ten fold. Life is just absolutely railing me from every single direction leaving me wanting to wave that white flag bc I don’t feel like there’s much hope no matter what happens. 
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    • Jillian83
      Hi, I was recently diagnosed with Celiac and dermatitis herpetiformis after years of suffering without answers. I lost my mind. I lost my job. I lost so much time. I lost Me. Conventional doctors are opulent come near me and the one who did sat across the room, misdiagnosed me, pumped me full of steroids which collapsed my entire hip for 6 months. So without answers I began my holistic journey. Fast forward a couple of years and still struggling with a mysterious whole body itchy, crawling “skin hell”, perfect teeth now deteriorating, thick hair now thinning rapidly and no more than a day or 2 at most relief….An acquaintance opened up a functional medicine practice. Cash only, I found a way. Within a month tests clearly showing my off the charts gluten allergy/sensitivity as well as the depletion of vital nutrients due to leaky gut and intestinal damage. dermatitis herpetiformis was more than likely what I was experiencing with my skin. I was happy. I thought this is easy, eat healthy Whole Foods, follow the diet restrictions and I finally get to heal and feel confident and like myself again very soon! 😔 Supplements are very pricey but I got them and began my healing. Which leads to the other major issue: not working, stay at home Mom of young kids, entirely financially dependent on my man of 7 plus years. He’s never been supportive of anything I’ve ever done or been thru. He controls everything. I’m not given much money ever at a time and when he does leave money it’s only enough to possibly get gas. His excuse is that I’ll spend it on other things. So my “allowance” is inconsistent and has conditions. He withholds money from me as punishment for anything he wants. Since being diagnosed, he’s gained a new control tactic to use as punishment. He now is in control of when I get to eat. He asked for proof of my diagnosis and diet bc he said I made it up just to be able to eat expensive organic foods. Then after I sent him my file from my doctor he then said she wasn’t a real doctor. 😡. I go days upon days starving, sometimes breaking down and eating things I shouldn’t bc I’m so sick then I pay horribly while he gets annoyed and angry bc I’m not keeping up with all the duties I’m supposed to be doing. His abuse turns full on when I’m down and it’s in these desperate times when I need his support and care the most that I’m punished with silence, being starved, ignored, belittled. He will create more of a mess just bc I’m unable to get up and clean so that when I am better, I’m so overwhelmed with chores to catch up that the stress causes me to go right back into a flare from hell and the cycle repeats. I’m punished for being sick. I’m belittled for starving and asking for healthy clean water. I’m purposely left out of his life. He won’t even tell me he’s going to the grocery or to get dinner bc he doesn’t want me to ask him for anything. I have no one. I have nothing. Im not better. My supplements ran out and I desperately need Vitamin D3 and a methylated B complex at the very minimal just to function….he stares at me blankly…no, a slight smirk, no words. He’s happiest when im miserable and I am miserable.  this is so long and im condensing as much as I can but this situation is so complicated and disgusting. And it’s currently my life. The “IT” girl, the healthy, beautiful, perfect skin, perfect teeth, thick and curly locks for days, creative and talented IT girl….now I won’t even leave this house bc Im ashamed of what this has dont to my body, my skin. Im disgusted. The stress is keeping me from healing and I think he knows that and that’s why he continues to keep me in that state. He doesn’t want me confident or successful. He doesn’t want me healed and healthy bc then how would he put the blame of all his problems on me? This journey has been hell and I’ve been in Hell before. I’ve been killed by an ex, I’ve been raped, robbed, held hostage, abused beyond nightmares but the cruelty I’ve experienced from him bc of this disease is the coldest I’ve ever experienced. I’ve wanted to give up. Starving and in tears, desperate…I found a local food pantry in our small town so I reached out just saying I had Celiac and was on hard times. This woman is blessing me daily with prepared gluten free meals, donations, educational info, people who know this disease and how they manage life and the blessings just keep coming. But it’s overwhelming and I feel like I don’t deserve it at all. He just glared and I know he’s going to sabotage it somehow. I don’t even know what to do anymore. I’m so broken and just want peace and healing. 
    • cristiana
      @Colleen H   I am just curious,  when you were tested for coeliac disease, did the doctors find out if you had any deficiencies? Sometimes muscle pain can be caused by certain deficiencies, for example, magnesium, vitamin D, calcium, and potassium.   Might be worth looking into having some more tests.  Pins and needles can be neuropathy, again caused by deficiencies, such as iron and B12,  which can be reversed if these deficiencies are addressed. In the UK where I live we are usually only tested for iron, B12 and vitamin D deficiencies at diagnosis.   I was very iron anemic and supplementation made a big difference.  B12 was low normal, but in other countries the UK's low normal would be considered a deficiency.  My vitamin D was low normal, and I've been supplementing ever since (when I remember to take it!) My pins and needles definitely started to improve when my known deficiencies were addressed.  My nutritionist also gave me a broad spectrum supplement which really helped, because I suspect I wasn't just deficient in what I mention above but in many other vitamins and minerals.  But a word of warning, don't take iron unless blood tests reveal you actually need it, and if you are taking it your levels must be regularly monitored because too much can make you ill.  (And if you are currently taking iron, that might actually be making your stomach sore - it did mine, so my GP changed my iron supplementation to a gentler form, ferrous gluconate). Lastly, have you been trying to take anything to lessen the pain in your gut?  I get a sore stomach periodically, usually when I've had too much rich food, or when I have had to take an aspirin or certain antibiotics, or after glutening.  When this happens, I take for just a few days a small daily dose of OTC omeprazole.  I also follow a reflux or gastritis diet. There are lots online but the common denominators to these diets is you need to cut out caffeine, alcohol, rich, spicy, acidic food etc and eat small regularly spaced meals.   When I get a sore stomach, I also find it helpful to drink lots of water.  I also find hot water with a few slices of ginger very soothing to sip, or camomile tea.  A wedge pillow at night is good for reflux. Also,  best not to eat a meal 2-3 hours before going to bed. If the stomach pain is getting worse, though, it would be wise to see the doctor again. I hope some of this helps. Cristiana    
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