Safe High Calorie Foods?

[neal]

There muust be some folks here with experience with feeling starved and too thin. I have always wanted to know what it feels like to have some mass! No offense to people with the opposite problem, I know that is just as difficult and frustrating. Bring it on, I want to party like Orson Wells.

[ravenwoodglass]

If you are newly diagnosed it isn't unusual to feel constantly hungry. Your body has been starved of nutrition for quite a while and is happy to be able to get food that doesn't attack it.

Eat lots of naturally gluten free whole food and try to avoid processed as much as you can. Go for stuff that is high in nutrition and has lots of calories that you like. Avacodos and nuts are two foods that come to mind first but I know others will have some other good foods to add to that.

Different folks have different ways of putting on a few pounds but for me I ate my three meals a day and snacks and in the morning I would open a bag of Wylde pretzels (gluten and soy free) and munch on it throughout the day. One bag was about 1000 calories so it was an easy way to add a big chunk of extra calories a day.

[kitgordon]

Ice cream is great if you can have dairy.

[kareng]

Nut butters - peanut, sunflower, almond. Add olive oil to things. A drizzle on some on cooked or raw veggies for example. Cut up cheese and keep it in a baggie in the fridge for easy snacking.

I would be happy to donate 20 pounds to your cause.

[Fairy Dancer]

Rice, potatoes, sweetcorn, protein.

Ice cream, full fat dairy (if you are ok with it).

[domesticactivist]

Yogurt from raw milk, liberal amount of olive oil (don't heat it), coconut milk, avacado, eggs, nuts (washed, soaked, and dehydrated), pasture fed, organic meat with all the fat. Cook with tallow rendered from pasture fed organic beef (CAFO fat and meat is bad for you!!!), lard from pastured organic pork, duck fat (roast your duck and collect all the drippings), ghee, and coconut oil.

[neal]

I like the concept of eating ice cream to become healthy, unfortunately I know from past experience that any refined sugars are my enemy(even worse than the tequila diet I tried a while back), and most people are saying that dairy is difficult to digest until my intestines grow back again. Animal products have always been the easiest for me to assimilate.

Thank you all for your suggestions!

[domesticactivist]

PS, Neal, you might want to look into the GAPS diet. It is aimed at restoring gut health, flora and all. I have posted a lot about it if you want to search the forum, or you can search for GAPS Resources at the blog linked from my profile. (Sorry, not up for more typing/link finding right now!)

[neal]

Yogurt from raw milk, liberal amount of olive oil (don't heat it), coconut milk, avacado, eggs, nuts (washed, soaked, and dehydrated), pasture fed, organic meat with all the fat. Cook with tallow rendered from pasture fed organic beef (CAFO fat and meat is bad for you!!!), lard from pastured organic pork, duck fat (roast your duck and collect all the drippings), ghee, and coconut oil.

You must be an old schooly carnivore! I have always used olive oil to cook with, because, everybody told me to. Have I fallen for someones evil plan?

I don't think I have ever seen lard or tallow in a grocery store, but I never really looked. I have seen lard at mexican markets, but I don't know if they are too big on the organic part. I will look around though. What is CAFO? I have never even thought of roasting a duck, but there are a lot of ducks around here, and they are grass fed!

I will look into these ideas, thanks for your suggestions

[ravenwoodglass]

I like the concept of eating ice cream to become healthy, unfortunately I know from past experience that any refined sugars are my enemy(even worse than the tequila diet I tried a while back), and most people are saying that dairy is difficult to digest until my intestines grow back again. Animal products have always been the easiest for me to assimilate.

Thank you all for your suggestions!

It is a good idea to be cautious with dairy until you have healed a bit as many of us are lactose intolerant until we heal. Hard cheeses like cheddar may be well tolerated though as they are pretty much lactose free.

If you are avoiding dairy you may want to look into a hemp milk as it is pretty high in protein, calcium etc. Personally I only the like the chocolate for drinking.

Be careful of the brands if you get rice milk. Rice Dream is not safe for us. There are also some good almond milks.

Smoothies made with fresh fruit and an alternative milk are also a good source of nutrients and calories and are pretty tasty.

[neal]

PS, Neal, you might want to look into the GAPS diet. It is aimed at restoring gut health, flora and all. I have posted a lot about it if you want to search the forum, or you can search for GAPS Resources at the blog linked from my profile. (Sorry, not up for more typing/link finding right now!)

Hey, thanks, I skimmed through the gaps diet. This approach seems very sensible to me. It would be difficult for me to follow a plan like this perfectly due to my current lifestyle,(I live in a camper in the desert) but I will try some of these ideas as best I can.

[domesticactivist]

You must be an old schooly carnivore! I have always used olive oil to cook with, because, everybody told me to. Have I fallen for someones evil plan?

I don't think I have ever seen lard or tallow in a grocery store, but I never really looked. I have seen lard at mexican markets, but I don't know if they are too big on the organic part. I will look around though. What is CAFO? I have never even thought of roasting a duck, but there are a lot of ducks around here, and they are grass fed!

I will look into these ideas, thanks for your suggestions

You made me smile I wasn't always this way... my exhusband was vegan and I was a vegetarian on and off for a long time. I'm going to have to get my partner to write a proper blog post answering all these questions (blog linked from my profile) since she's the one who actually renders the fats and she's done more of the research, but here's a bit of info:

The reason not to heat olive oil is that it has a low smoke point. It doesn't take much heat for olive oil to start breaking down the healthy nutritional value into carcinogens. So it's best used unheated.

CAFOs are Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations. They are the places where they pile as many animals in as possible, let them stand in their own s$#&, and feed them foods nature never intended they eat. In order to make it possible for them to withstand these conditions, not only are they bred for it but they are also shot full of drugs and in some cases given holes into their guts so that the gasses produced there can vent. The meat and fat that comes from these animals is actually very different (you can actually tell) than the meat and fat that comes from animals that are given lives that's actually suited for their bodies' needs.

We don't buy the lard or tallow at the store. Instead, Open Original Shared Link. We usually buy whole animals from local farmers, and split the order with people in a buying club. The farmer butchers it for us. Sometimes we can choose the wrap, other times not. We specifically request the fat. Most people don't want it, so you need to check to see that they remembered to give it to you! Since you are more mobile that may not be an option, but you may be able to ask around for the fat at the butcher shops or farms you encounter.

With the ducks what you want to do is score the skin in a nice diamond pattern before roasting. Then you rotate it every hour while you are roasting it (on a rack over a deep pan). Open Original Shared Link

[neal]

You made me smile I wasn't always this way... my exhusband was vegan and I was a vegetarian on and off for a long time. I'm going to have to get my partner to write a proper blog post answering all these questions (blog linked from my profile) since she's the one who actually renders the fats and she's done more of the research, but here's a bit of info:

The reason not to heat olive oil is that it has a low smoke point. It doesn't take much heat for olive oil to start breaking down the healthy nutritional value into carcinogens. So it's best used unheated.

CAFOs are Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations. They are the places where they pile as many animals in as possible, let them stand in their own s$#&, and feed them foods nature never intended they eat. In order to make it possible for them to withstand these conditions, not only are they bred for it but they are also shot full of drugs and in some cases given holes into their guts so that the gasses produced there can vent. The meat and fat that comes from these animals is actually very different (you can actually tell) than the meat and fat that comes from animals that are given lives that's actually suited for their bodies' needs.

We don't buy the lard or tallow at the store. Instead, Open Original Shared Link. We usually buy whole animals from local farmers, and split the order with people in a buying club. The farmer butchers it for us. Sometimes we can choose the wrap, other times not. We specifically request the fat. Most people don't want it, so you need to check to see that they remembered to give it to you! Since you are more mobile that may not be an option, but you may be able to ask around for the fat at the butcher shops or farms you encounter.

With the ducks what you want to do is score the skin in a nice diamond pattern before roasting. Then you rotate it every hour while you are roasting it (on a rack over a deep pan). Open Original Shared Link

Than you for all the explanations, I feel like my body is responding pretty quickly to the absence of gluten and processed foods so I don't think I will need to go to the extreme of the stage one gaps diet (although I might try it the next time I am breaking a fast). It has only been a week and I am feelng improvements in many areas. In the next few weeks I will be heading up to the SF bay area where people are a lot more conscience about... (everything) and I will be able to find healthier supplies. In the mean time, is there a better cooking oil that you can think of that might be commercially available?

[neal]

Nut butters - peanut, sunflower, almond. Add olive oil to things. A drizzle on some on cooked or raw veggies for example. Cut up cheese and keep it in a baggie in the fridge for easy snacking.

I would be happy to donate 20 pounds to your cause.

thanks for the suggestions!

I wish it was as easy as that, I would happily accept

[domesticactivist]

Coconut oil has a high smoke point, can you get it?

[neal]

Coconut oil has a high smoke point, can you get it?

I will look, thx