Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Reintroducing Vegetables

cahill

By cahill
in Coping with Celiac Disease

Recommended Posts

cahill Collaborator
cahill
Posted

I have been gluten free for awhile (over 2 years) and soy free (over a year) . I am egg free other than an occasional piece of Udi's bread .

My gut has healed quite a bit and most of my other symptoms have dissipated ( unless CC'ed).

I realize that my diet may not be the healthiest as I am not eating vegetables and limit my fruits.

I would like to try to reintroduce vegetables but the last time I tried to reintroduce vegetables (about 6 months ago)was just plain painful :ph34r: .

Any suggestions ??

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Jestgar Rising Star
Jestgar
Posted

Cook them really really well?

Start by mixing a few into food you already eat (mix some peas into mashed potatoes for example).

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
Posted

Reintroduce them one at a time and do each for a week. I would start with something easy to digest like maybe peas or carrots. Do make sure they are well cooked when first introducing them as they will be easier to digest. Hopefully by doing them one at a time you will have a few you are able to tolerate. Since you said you ended up in quite a bit of pain last time maybe do the nightshade family, potatoes and tomatoes etc last. Good luck.

mamaw Community Regular
mamaw
Posted

Hi Chill

I was going to write the same as the other posters........glad you are feeling better.

blessings

mamaw

cahill Collaborator
cahill
Posted
  • Author

@Jestgar; My tendency has been to go for raw vegetables so some well cooked vegetables may be the best place to start.

@Raven; I already know that some nightshades are off limits. chilies and green peppers are unfortunately permanently of limits :(, I am watchful when consuming any nightshades. As for the other vegetables ,I will try slowly reintroducing the others. I had not considered what an issue veggies were going to be.

@ Mamaw; It has been a long road but well worth the effort :)

Thank you for the suggestions,

IrishHeart Veteran
IrishHeart
Posted

Hi Chill!

I would avoid the raw stuff for now and do as these wise women suggest.

I know you have had a long road and I am happy to hear you are doing better!!

I had to re-try some foods repeatedly (0ff and on) for the last year, but I am making progress as well.

Best wishes!

cahill Collaborator
cahill
Posted
  • Author

Hi Chill!

I would avoid the raw stuff for now and do as these wise women suggest.

I know you have had a long road and I am happy to hear you are doing better!!

I had to re-try some foods repeatedly (0ff and on) for the last year, but I am making progress as well.

Best wishes!

Thanks IH :)

I am glad to hear you are making progress as well. It is a long road but recovery is well worth it. :D

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


domesticactivist Collaborator
domesticactivist
Posted

Some people so better with certain veggies cooked and others raw. You might be interested in trying your introductions GAPS style... Cooked thoroughly in stock, and introduced slowly, one at a time. I have a series of posts on the blog linked from my profile about how to do GAPS, btw.

As you introduce them see if there are any patterns to the veggies you dont tolerate. Nightshades? Fructose? Salicylates?

red island Newbie
red island
Posted

I am having the same problem. Because of my IBS I was having alot of trouble with veggies and citrus fruits. Now I find I can eat oranges (not everyday) but I am still having to mash alot of my cooked veggies, I am trying to eat lots of sweet potatoes but things like peas are still iffy. I never thought about mashing them though. Thats a good idea.

YoloGx Rookie
YoloGx
Posted

It sounds to me like you could really be having a problem with salicylates or oxyaltes. I suggest you check it/them out online. There are various lists of low to moderate to high salicylate foods for instance. It could explain a few things.

For myself personally I avoid carrots since they are quite high in salicylates. I had a reaction to them long before I even knew that however.

If you do have a problem with salicylates or some related things like that, it also indicates you likely have a problem with digesting things in general plus problems with your liver. Thus do liver and digestive support--as in things like dandelion and nettle tea and safe digestive enzymes. With salicylate sensitivity most herbs are out, however I have both read and found these two to be safe and actually find them to act as a partial antidote to the condition. As far as enzymes go, I like the Jarro-Zymes Plus with extra strength lipase and alpha galactosidase.

To get some live raw veggies in I chop them up and blend them in my blender. Parsley, celery and iceburg lettuce are a great easy to digest and liver cleansing combination that are salicylate safe.

Other than that, by all means cook or steam your foods to begin with.

Bea

cahill Collaborator
cahill
Posted
  • Author

It sounds to me like you could really be having a problem with salicylates or oxyaltes. I suggest you check it/them out online. There are various lists of low to moderate to high salicylate foods for instance. It could explain a few things.

For myself personally I avoid carrots since they are quite high in salicylates. I had a reaction to them long before I even knew that however.

If you do have a problem with salicylates or some related things like that, it also indicates you likely have a problem with digesting things in general plus problems with your liver. Thus do liver and digestive support--as in things like dandelion and nettle tea and safe digestive enzymes. With salicylate sensitivity most herbs are out, however I have both read and found these two to be safe and actually find them to act as a partial antidote to the condition. As far as enzymes go, I like the Jarro-Zymes Plus with extra strength lipase and alpha galactosidase.

To get some live raw veggies in I chop them up and blend them in my blender. Parsley, celery and iceburg lettuce are a great easy to digest and liver cleansing combination that are salicylate safe.

Other than that, by all means cook or steam your foods to begin with.

Bea

I do have liver issues. I did not relate my liver issues to my issues with veggies. Maybe salicylate sensitivity is something I need to research .

Thanks Bea :)

bartfull Rising Star
bartfull
Posted

When I had a terrible reaction to aspirin I thought I might have trouble with salicylates in food too. I had been having trouble with lots of fruits and veggies too. The problem is, there aren't a lot of fruits and veggies I like to begin with. Broccoli is one I do like, and I had been eating it with no problem, but I dropped it for a while.

Pears that have been peeled are supposed to be OK for sals, but I reacted badly to them. I finally found the information on how MUCH, by the numbers, sals were in foods vs. aspirin. Aspirin as it turns out, has about 100 TIMES more sals than most foods.

So I am back on high sal foods without a problem. But what's the deal with the pears and asparagus? They go through me like water. Well, it turns out they are high in nickel. I get contact dermatitis from nickel touching my skin - I'm thinking that the nickel in food does the same thing to my gut.

I'm really happy I am back on veggies and fruits. I could feel the vitamin deficiencies creeping up on me. It took a lot of experimenting and internet research, but I think I'm slowly but surely heading toward good health.

So don't give up. There IS an answer for each of us. Those answers are hard to find, and they are different for each one of us, but if we search long and hard enough, we will learn how to keep ourselves healthy and whole.

sa1937 Community Regular
sa1937
Posted

I also have a problem with a nickel allergy and cannot tolerate aspirin. But I have no problem eating either unpeeled pears or asparagus, which is one of my very favorite veggies.

Maybe we are all so different that there's no telling what we might react to. It's all such a puzzle.

IrishHeart Veteran
IrishHeart
Posted

Maybe we are all so different that there's no telling what we might react to. It's all such a puzzle.

That, my wise friend, sums us all up in a nutshell. It is a bugger sometimes. :blink:

Hopefully, CHILL can find a few veggies to enjoy!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. Celiac.com Sponsored Post
      0

      An Inclusive Valentine's Day: Easy Tips for a Celebration Everyone Can Enjoy

    2. trents
      - trents replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      IBS-D vs Celiac

      No coincidence. Recent revisions to gluten challenge guidelines call for the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten (about the amount in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of 3 weeks. If possible, I would extend that two weeks to ensure valid testing.
    3. SilkieFairy
      - SilkieFairy replied to SilkieFairy's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      IBS-D vs Celiac

      Thank you both for the replies. I decided to bring back gluten so I can do the blood test. Today is Day #2 of the Challenge. Yesterday I had about 3 slices of whole wheat bread and I woke up with urgent diarrhea this morning. It was orange, sandy and had the distinctive smell that I did not have when I was briefly gluten free. I don't know if it's a...
    4. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens. I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium. I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells. When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly. This is safe...
    5. Jane02
      - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency. I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently...
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,337
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    Susan1001
    Newest Member
    Susan1001
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      IBS-D vs Celiac

      By trents · Posted

      No coincidence. Recent revisions to gluten challenge guidelines call for the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten (about the amount in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of 3 weeks. If possible, I would extend that two weeks to ensure valid testing.
    • SilkieFairy
      IBS-D vs Celiac

      By SilkieFairy · Posted

      Thank you both for the replies. I decided to bring back gluten so I can do the blood test. Today is Day #2 of the Challenge. Yesterday I had about 3 slices of whole wheat bread and I woke up with urgent diarrhea this morning. It was orange, sandy and had the distinctive smell that I did not have when I was briefly gluten free. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but the brain fog is back and I feel very tired.   
    • knitty kitty
      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

      By Jane02 · Posted

      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.