Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Help. Gluten free and still suffering from horrible gluten rash


Meg G

Recommended Posts

Meg G Newbie

I’ve been gluten free for months. About 4 weeks ago I cut out all grains including cassava flour, all nuts and seeds, coffee, chocolate, sugar, corn, iodine, white potatoes, onions and garlic (doctor’s recommendation) night shade vegetables, alcohol, legumes and dairy. This gluten rash started about 8 months ago. Unfortunately it took me a few months to realize what it was. I’m considering eliminating eggs next. Right now my diet consists of eggs, fruit, vegetables, all things coconut, meat and seasonings, lots of water from an RO system and occasionally hot tea. Any advice you would have would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Meg G Newbie

I believe I found my solution! After lots of reading I’m eliminating eggs and starting to follow the AIP diet. Crazy learning curve with this new diagnosis!

Scott Adams Grand Master

I had to look up the AIP diet, it looks to be the "Autoimmune Protocol Diet." Just so you know, eggs are 100% gluten-free, and should not trigger DH, so this may not be your answer. Certainly some celiacs and others have egg intolerance, I had chicken egg intolerance temporarily for a few years at the time of my celiac diagnosis (duck eggs caused me no issues), but you may need to examine your diet in more detail to eliminate hidden gluten. For example you mentioned cassava flour, and flour is often milled in facilities and with the same machinery that mill other flours. 

NoGlutensToday Enthusiast

I had a similar problem ... I went gluten free but continued to have DH rash for years!

I only found relief when I started following the Fasano Diet, which was created by Dr. Allesio Fasano. He's the top guy when it comes to studying celiac, so if you haven't already read up on him and his dietary recommendation, do so. He wrote an excellent book called Gluten Freedom, which I recommend.

Are you still eating processed foods? I've discovered that even after getting things under control I cannot handle processed foods, even if they are certified gluten free. I gather that I have an extremely low tolerance for gluten (certified gluten free products are able to contain up to 19 parts per million, depending on the certification body).

Eat natural, healthy foods. Be patient. Dapsone may help with the rash, but ultimately it can't resolve the problem if you are still getting exposed.

Meg G Newbie
On 12/13/2020 at 4:39 PM, NoGlutensToday said:

I had a similar problem ... I went gluten free but continued to have DH rash for years!

I only found relief when I started following the Fasano Diet, which was created by Dr. Allesio Fasano. He's the top guy when it comes to studying celiac, so if you haven't already read up on him and his dietary recommendation, do so. He wrote an excellent book called Gluten Freedom, which I recommend.

Are you still eating processed foods? I've discovered that even after getting things under control I cannot handle processed foods, even if they are certified gluten free. I gather that I have an extremely low tolerance for gluten (certified gluten free products are able to contain up to 19 parts per million, depending on the certification body).

Eat natural, healthy foods. Be patient. Dapsone may help with the rash, but ultimately it can't resolve the problem if you are still getting exposed.

Thank you so much for your advice! I’ll definitely research that diet. When I eat anything processed even the cleanest chicken broth I can find I have had reactions. 

Meg G Newbie
On 12/8/2020 at 12:27 PM, Scott Adams said:

I had to look up the AIP diet, it looks to be the "Autoimmune Protocol Diet." Just so you know, eggs are 100% gluten-free, and should not trigger DH, so this may not be your answer. Certainly some celiacs and others have egg intolerance, I had chicken egg intolerance temporarily for a few years at the time of my celiac diagnosis (duck eggs caused me no issues), but you may need to examine your diet in more detail to eliminate hidden gluten. For example you mentioned cassava flour, and flour is often milled in facilities and with the same machinery that mill other flours. 

Thank you! Since the original post I purchased my own pots to cook my food completely separately from my family. I was careful before now I’m not taking any chances. The forum here has helped tremendously! I Can’t express my gratitude enough for this forum. DH is not only painful but emotionally crushing. With The help of my doctor and advice from this from I’m 95% healed. Thank you!

GFinDC Veteran

The problem with eggs is the iodine content, not gluten.  People with DH seem to find relief faster when they limit iodine.  Per posts on the forum at least


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



  • 5 months later...
robird Newbie

Yes, iodine can cause problems like this. I had to limit my egg intake to control that. Fortunately I can eat egg, but if I eat it for breakfast for 3-4 days in a row, I’ve got some issues.

Fasano diet is great. 

For anyone having DH I’d recommend to start with that, or just elimination diet. Live everything out until the DH symptoms disappear. I mean really everything. For example eat rice with grilled meat with salt and some fruits plus salad. Of course everything must be prepared by you ideally in a separate kitchen with “clean” tools. Prepare to do it for several weeks. Dont worry, you’ll survive. Thats a good starting point - from there you can start reintroducing items one by one.

  • 2 months later...
CeCe22 Explorer
On 12/20/2020 at 10:17 AM, GFinDC said:

The problem with eggs is the iodine content, not gluten.  People with DH seem to find relief faster when they limit iodine.  Per posts on the forum at least

When you eliminate iodine from your diet does it not cause thyroid problems. Been reading about limiting iodine but not sure what to do about problems it can cause if you eliminate iodine. Not sure how to do this. A newbie here!  😃

Scott Adams Grand Master

You definitely need to eat a certain level of iodine, otherwise you could have serious health issues. Most people plenty of iodine in their foods, but for some people with DH it is important to not eat foods with high levels of iodine, like certain sea foods, sea weed, etc. Nobody should totally eliminate all iodine.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,109
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Kathy001
    Newest Member
    Kathy001
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • RMJ
      They don’t give a sample size (serving size is different from sample size) so it is hard to tell just what the result means.  However, the way the result is presented  does look like it is below the limit of what their test can measure, so that is good.
    • knitty kitty
      @cristiana,  I react the same way.  Dairy consumption flushes out my digestive system within an hour, too! As casein is digested, it forms casomorphins that bind to opioid receptors in our bodies.  This is similar to digested gluten peptides being able to attach to opioid receptors in our bodies.   We have opioid receptors throughout our bodies including lots in the digestive tract. Casein raises tTg IgA antibodies just like gluten consumption does, which leads to further intestinal damage and continuing inflammation.  No wonder our bodies react to it by pushing the "emergency evacuation" ejection seat button! The mother of my childhood friend was British and introduced me to drinking tea properly with milk or cream.  I miss it so much.  And chocolate ice cream.  Not worth the after effects, though.  I've found taking Omega Three supplements (flaxseed oil, sunflower seed oil, evening primrose oil) helps shake those dairy cravings.   Green leafy veggies like broccoli, kale, and greens (mustard, turnip, collards) are great sources of calcium.  Avoid spinach as it is high in oxalates that block calcium absorption and may cause kidney stones.  Yes, more leafy greens are needed to reach the same amount of calcium in a glass of milk, but the greens have other benefits, like increased dietary fiber and polyphenols that act as antioxidants, reduce inflammation, and promote health.   Exposure to gluten (and casein in those sensitive to it) can cause an increased immune response and inflammation for months afterwards.  The immune cells that make tTg IgA antibodies which are triggered today are going to live for about two years. During that time, inflammation is heightened.  Those immune cells only replicate when triggered.  If those immune cells don't get triggered again for about two years, they die without leaving any descendents programmed to trigger on gluten and casein.  The immune system forgets gluten and casein need to be attacked.  The Celiac genes turn off.  This is remission.   Some people in remission report being able to consume gluten again without consequence.  Another triggering event can turn the Celiac genes on again.   Celiac genes are turned on by a triggering event (physical or emotional stress).  There's some evidence that thiamine insufficiency contributes to the turning on of autoimmune genes.  There is an increased biological need for thiamine when we are physically or emotionally stressed.  Thiamine cannot be stored for more than twenty-one days and may be depleted in as little as three during physical and emotional stresses. Mitochondria without sufficient thiamine become damaged and don't function properly.  This gets relayed to the genes and autoimmune disease genes turn on.  Thiamine and other B vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are needed to replace the dysfunctional mitochondria and repair the damage to the body.  
    • TheDHhurts
      Hi, I bought Naked Nutrition Creatine. It lists itself as gluten free but is not certified. (It used to be, but they dropped it in the past year or two apparently.) I wrote the company and asked them what testing results they had for creatine and they sent me the attached, which says the test result for gluten is <0.025MCG. I'm used to seeing test results as ppm, so I'm not sure what <0.025MCG means. Can it be converted to ppm easily? I want to confirm that it is safe to use.
    • cristiana
      When I was still recovering my gastroenterologist suggested I bought lactofree product as I was very bloated.  So I bought some from the supermarket and from memory, I drank a nice big glass of milk - and it went right through me literally within an hour or so, if my memory serves correctly.  I came off dairy completely next and it worked like a charm, but started to reintroduce quite gradually it as I missed it! To this day, if I overdo dairy products, they work like a mild laxative.  I've never wanted to give up milk completely as I like it so much, and my mum had osteoporosis and it's an easy way of getting calcium.  But it doesn't really 'sit' well with me.   You may need to experiment a bit as when I was healing certain dairy products were worse than others - I could cope with one brand of Greek yoghurt, but I got extremely and painfully bloated with another brand of live British yoghurt.  
    • wellthatsfun
      i have been strictly gluten free for 7 months. this includes avoiding anything that may contain gluten and making sure surfaces and appliances are clean. i am 18 years old in australia and my tTG-IgA results were 69U/mL, pretty low compared to most people's, for reference. i feel the exact same as before. sure, i was pretty much asymptomatic/silent. the worst i'd get was occasionally bad stools and pitting of the nails/brittle hair since early childhood - and i was diagnosed with low iron and vitamin d which checks out due to easy bruising and such. but those symptoms have remained. maybe i'm jumping the gun, sure. i know it can take years to fully heal. but being over half a year in, i feel that i should be, y'know, healing. i'm nearly at my wits end and wondering if i should have a piece of bread or something to see how i go - to see if i possibly have refractory? my mental health is declining as i feel myself wanting to bang my head against a damn wall out of frustration every day. cravings haven't gotten better. look, i love the stuff i still can have, like salads and such. OH! i haven't lost any weight, which is mind boggling considering i eat very healthily now! i've always been on the chubbier side which is atypical of coeliac. i just don't know what's going on with me. i try to remain hopeful but i'm just so sad all the time. thanks for reading  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.