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Gluten -- I Cheated And It Was So Good

grantschoep

By grantschoep
in Coping with Celiac Disease

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miles2go Contributor
miles2go
Posted
Okay now you'll all know what a freek I am, its gotta come out....I don't even like pizza, matter of fact I sorta hate it, never have either. LOL :D:D Felt good to confess, everyones always talking about pizza! No I haven't cheated. I look at it the same way I do about how I quit smoking 2 years ago. Why would I want to go through all that withdrawl and torture, just to turn around and do it again?

I don't think you're a freak at all, in fact, the older I get the more pizza gives me heartburn and I'm so atopic that I'm trying the whole foods and elimination diet along with the (what seems to be) life-long rotation diet.

Food is so much a part of our life without our recognizing it and then when life-threatening obstacles come along it just seems to take a while to get the ol' brain fog to catch up with what the rest of the bod is telling us. Congrats on quitting smoking! B)

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elonwy Enthusiast
elonwy
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I don't cheat with accidental glutenings, cause I've found there is definitly a correlation between how much I ingest and how sick I get, and for how long. One little taste of something with soy sauce, I'm sick for a day , tops three. Accidently eating something with flour in it, I'm out for a week. I haven't taken it to the "oh well screw it I'll eat this piece of bread" but I think it would make me sick worse and longer if I had more. As soon as I get sick I just want to be better as soon as possible.

I've been horrendously depressed lately, as I just lost a dear friend of mine, and I have to admit that I've had those thoughts of "oh screw it just go get some Popeyes" ( so much better than KFC) but I've thankfully been able to resist. I can't imagine the gluten depression on top of whats already there right now.

I am however, going to go splurge on some gluten-free junk food right now, and eat some Ian's fish sticks and Tater Tots.

Elonwy

DingoGirl Enthusiast
DingoGirl
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Well I am TOTALLY going to cheat one day, soon....have been thinking about this....and I am going to eat donuts (chocolate cake and one Krispy Kreme) and my mom's cookies, maybe some KFC but no pizza, curiously, and whatever else I want.....am going to see how bad it is......since I am not working now, I can be sick for half a day and don't care that much :ph34r:

jerseyangel Proficient
jerseyangel
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I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your friend, elonwy.

Glad you decided on the gluten-free "junk food"! :)

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
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Well I am TOTALLY going to cheat one day, soon....have been thinking about this....and I am going to eat donuts (chocolate cake and one Krispy Kreme) and my mom's cookies, maybe some KFC but no pizza, curiously, and whatever else I want.....am going to see how bad it is......since I am not working now, I can be sick for half a day and don't care that much :ph34r:

Half a day? That might be worth it ... probably not though ... I'm out for at least 8 days with even a small amount!

Sorry about your friend Elwony.

DingoGirl Enthusiast
DingoGirl
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Oh! Elonwy sometimes I skim posts and didn't read about your friend. So sorry about that. Please don't eat the Popey's. :(

Rikki Tikki Explorer
Rikki Tikki
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Elonwy:

I am sorry to hear about your friend. It's a hard thing to go through. My thoughts are with you.

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elonwy Enthusiast
elonwy
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Nope, I'm sticking to gluten free goodies and bags and bags of cheetos. I've been able to contain most of the self-destructive urges, though I've been drinking a bit more this week. He had a great many friends, and we're all taking turns checking on eachother and getting hammered with eachother. I'm mostly staying home, where there is zero temptation of gluten filled badness.

I don't want to hi-jack the thread though.

Cheating is bad.

Elonwy

AndreaB Contributor
AndreaB
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Well I am TOTALLY going to cheat one day, soon....have been thinking about this....and I am going to eat donuts (chocolate cake and one Krispy Kreme) and my mom's cookies, maybe some KFC but no pizza, curiously, and whatever else I want.....am going to see how bad it is......since I am not working now, I can be sick for half a day and don't care that much :ph34r:

Why oh why Susan! I don't think it is worth the damage that would be done. Hasn't your body gone through enough?

I don't even have bad reactions like most of you. I deal with upset stomach, etc until it clears my system....usually about 1 day.

Pearia Newbie
Pearia
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I have only been gluten free since late June but I have been tempted many times. I don't have real bad reaction symptems so the urge to cheat is always there. Maybe next year for my birthday. :P

prinsessa Contributor
prinsessa
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I had a gluten filled weekend about a month after going gluten free. It started with an egg Mcmuffin w/sausage and pancakes. I didn't feel too bad after, so I started thinking maybe this gluten intolerance is all in my head. I ate several other gluten filled things that weekend. I had a little bit of gas at first and thought everything would be ok.

Well on Sunday I had the worse gas of my life. It must have built up and got trapped in my intestines. I couldn't even walk the pain was so bad. It was comparable to labor pains. I learned my lesson that weekend. It is not worth it to cheat!

Elonwy....I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. ((((HUGS))))

jenvan Collaborator
jenvan
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No way do I cheat. Feeling like crap, increased risk of cancer, my body damaging myself? Not worth it to me, its just food afterall... Work hard to find some gluten-free alternatives you like just as much so you aren't as tempted to cheat...that's a help to some.

TriticusToxicum Explorer
TriticusToxicum
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I often contemplate cheating, then i think of the consequences - like my wife ending up in jail for murdering me - I'm gluten intolerant and she's flatulence intolerant! There's nothing like being chased around the house with a book of matches! ;) Don't get me wrong, she's wonderful, and I'm not a pig...er but I'm sure we've all succumbed to the "urge to purge" at some point. :ph34r: Unfortunately for me (and her) I'm most effervessant once I lay down :blink: ...She's understanding if the glutening is accidental and beyond my control, but I'd hate to suffer the consequences (both mine and hers) if i did it on purpose!

But if you must cheat grab a Boston Cream Dunkin Donut in my memory.

luvs2eat Collaborator
luvs2eat
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I did... about a year after going gluten-free I scarfed a huge slice of homemade bread and had NO effects. I thought perhaps I could "plan" a cheat about once a month. The next time I tried it, tho... I had to ride in the car for hours and was none to happy to the noises my intestines were making. I gave up the "planned" cheat idea.

chewymom Rookie
chewymom
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I often contemplate cheating, then i think of the consequences - like my wife ending up in jail for murdering me - I'm gluten intolerant and she's flatulence intolerant! There's nothing like being chased around the house with a book of matches! ;) Don't get me wrong, she's wonderful, and I'm not a pig...er but I'm sure we've all succumbed to the "urge to purge" at some point. :ph34r: Unfortunately for me (and her) I'm most effervessant once I lay down :blink: ...She's understanding if the glutening is accidental and beyond my control, but I'd hate to suffer the consequences (both mine and hers) if i did it on purpose!

ROFLOL!!!! In a sense, I'm sure this is NOT a funny problem, but oh my! Your post sure hit my silly-button! :D

Rikki Tikki Explorer
Rikki Tikki
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ROFLOL!!!! In a sense, I'm sure this is NOT a funny problem, but oh my! Your post sure hit my silly-button! :D

DITTO :lol::lol::lol:

TriticusToxicum Explorer
TriticusToxicum
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ROFLOL!!!! In a sense, I'm sure this is NOT a funny problem, but oh my! Your post sure hit my silly-button! :D

DITTO :lol::lol::lol:

Now if you could only speak to my wife and convince her that there is humor to be found in the situation, (She almost set my pj's on fire once!) I could consider that donut.

All kidding aside, I love her to death - she's my rock. :wub:

I sometimes had to remind her, pre-diagnosis, about the "for better or worse...in sickness and in health" portion of the wedding vows. ;)

TinkerbellSwt Collaborator
TinkerbellSwt
Posted

wow.. I am surprised at how many people have cheated and/or still think of it. I have only been gluten free since Oct 2005 and there is no way I would cheat on purpose. I dont even think of the consequences, its just not an option.

I dont even think about gluteny foods. ok, I do get a hankering once in a blue moon for something, but it flies right out my mind as quickly as it entered.

elonwy.. so sorry to hear about your friend. My thoughts are with you now. I hope you feel better soon.

(((((((())))))))

mamaw Community Regular
mamaw
Posted

Maybe we need a twelve step program to help us get through those gluten moments because to me this is similar , addiction to gluten goodies.I'm by no means making fun at the twelve programs that are out there for drugs, booze & weight loss& so on --- they just help when someone needs coaching....

And I have great respect for the people that have overcome with the help of these programs..

blessings

mamaw

miles2go Contributor
miles2go
Posted
Maybe we need a twelve step program to help us get through those gluten moments because to me this is similar , addiction to gluten goodies.I'm by no means making fun at the twelve programs that are out there for drugs, booze & weight loss& so on --- they just help when someone needs coaching....

And I have great respect for the people that have overcome with the help of these programs..

blessings

mamaw

Keep in mind though, that not all of us have been conclusively dx'd with celiac disease and are still in the questioning phase of the process, whether from financial constraints, doctors who aren't thorough enough, or in my case, from gradual phasing out of gluten from alternative medicinal approaches such that the more traditional standards can't be accurately tested. My experience has been that the longer one avoids a certain offending food, the more the body reacts to it when it is reintroduced. That's a signal just as big as a dx and could save the money one might or might not spend in the future on Enterolab. :)

Elonwy, so sorry about your friend...I hope you and your friends can find some solace in your communal grieving. Hugs from Maine!

paw Apprentice
paw
Posted

I think about it, especially real pizza. I don't actually DO anything about my cravings because I don't want to be sick. It is not worth it to me to have D, migraine and those awful cramps. Since I can't have dairy, pizza would be doubly bad for me. :o

Pizza does not sound so good once you think it through. (At least for me)

jknnej Collaborator
jknnej
Posted

Whomever said they eat 3-4 sandwiches a week-that's a LOT of cheating!

I don't cheat but only because I feel so crappy when I do. I spend so much time ill before diagnosis that I am still cherishing every day without a tummy ache.

Matilda Enthusiast
Matilda
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DingoGirl Enthusiast
DingoGirl
Posted

HI Matilda! Yes, I really was serious.....I want to see what will happen and how long I'll be sick! I WANT some donuts!!

Krispy Kreme....I remember, years and years ago, readign about those doughnuts with that name, they were only in the South at that time, and the name itself just made me crazy - couldn't wait to try one - but actually, they are kind of sickening! and if you eat more than one, you COULD get sick even if you're not Celiac......

Matilda Enthusiast
Matilda
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