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Jestgar Rising Star
Well, certainly something with fins. .......... .. . and a big flipper on the end... .......

:lol:

how 'bout a propeller?


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mushroom Proficient
Mygawd....it's gotten so that one has to lose a leg to stay afloat. . . :blink: .......the times we live in.. . ...

Not easy to have one leg and stay afloat literally. . . . . . . .....like, if one were in the ocean, er sumfin . .. . ...

:rolleyes:

Tis, if you're our Sophie. Won three gold medals in the Paralympics (in swimming). Whatta galll!. She doesn't know she has only one of 'em. :lol:

DingoGirl Enthusiast

:blink:

:huh:

:o

:angry:

:angry:

WELL CRRRRRRRRAAAAAPPP,

I had TONS and TONS of quotes and - what in hell????????????? they're all

GONE

my sills. <_<

so now I only gots these two quotes??????

Hee! I met him and shook hands--ain't nuthing wrong wif the man's thumbs

and *snigger* Brian's thumb discussion was quite phunny, and even Leesargh made the leg story phunny, gawd love 'er!!!!!!!!!! :wub:

and then there's this quote from......someone NEW named Mushroom!!!!!

Tis, if you're our Sophie. Won three gold medals in the Paralympics (in swimming). Whatta galll!. She doesn't know she has only one of 'em.

Hi shroomy!!!!!!!!!! :) and welcome to madness......is Sophie your daughter?

Well Sills.............

I am TOTALLY in favor of Drunk Fridays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: and had a marvelous time last night........

and..........there was so much to comment on that delighted me, and now, poof, 'tis gone. HARRUMPHHHHHFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mimmsy - I"m sorry you had a crap day :( sounds rough, what you're dealing with up there. We have 40 percent unemployment in many parts of the valley, due to farming industry and water issues....so sad to see.

NIK - lecherous FIL :lol:

Patttt and her new cheese romance!!!!!!!!!!!! :smilingwithglee:

Judith - painted her deck, did she? the whole thing? gawd.....that would have taken me.....months and months........

Geoss is playing violin???!!!!!!!!!!! fantastic.......looks like the hardest thing I've ever seen......playing stringed instruments. I tried. Guitar. absolutely (h)anus, could not figger it out. broke me heart, it did.

ummmm..........brain is not all here........still a bit blurry........forgot everything else.....

definitely hungover :ph34r:

and a friend showed up todya, even before I was showered........I stunketh and looked like hell. Oh well...........I've known him nearly my whole life (in fact, Sills, he was my first great love :wub: )

I DID have to hide from the gardener today.... It was a success..........but there's always next weekend <_< and all the ones after that.....

Where is giaknit, dammit???????????

going to watch a movie now............

*yawn*

psawyer Proficient

Well, the storm front has passed, and is now moving in Emily's direction. It seems to have taken my energy with it. I'm ready to call it an early night.

Somebody bought a fiddle on eBay for $24.99 (plus shipping). Wuz it our Jess?

I have a meeting with my pillow in about 5 minutes...

flourgirl Apprentice

Hi-O Psuess! Been a long time since we've squiggled together. Glad you had a good time. Pity you have to pay for it later :)

Mimm-e-o .... hope your bad day was only one. You need a bright shiny new day tomorrow. "No need to talk it out, we know what it's all about. Walkin' around, some kind of lonely clown, rainy days and mondays always get me down". I SO loved Karen Carpenter. I am convinced that *she* had celiac disease. What a waste and a shame!

Psuessley has a "hairsuit"...she said so! :lol::lol:

Curly Lees-ah! So so so glad you are back, and finding some psilly. With faith, all things bad hold some good within. You both have such an amazing sense of humor, and peaceful acceptance. We could all learn something from you. Hope that peace is firmly anchored and fill all of the corners of your being.

Am :wub: my adopted extended psilly family!

DingoGirl Enthusiast
Hi-O Psuess! Been a long time since we've squiggled together. Glad you had a good time. Pity you have to pay for it later

Psuessley has a "hairsuit"...she said so!

Am :wub: my adopted extended psilly family!

Tea!!!!! :wub:

OMG - I think 'twas you who said, Alfie was a good name for Kit, but not after Hitchcock, unless he screams that way..................but guess what, he does

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I have got to record the little monster, film it wif me phone or summat, the HOWLING from the bossy little kitteh :wub:

But Alfred - noble protector, was that it? that is hardly what he is :lol:

gotta start the movie now sills!!!!!!!!! (going to watch The Reader)

Um - - is it too late to change my Kit's name? :blink:

:lol:

psawyer Proficient
Um - - is it too late to change my Kit's name? :blink:

Again? Why not, after a few times, what is another?

When we rescued a cat in 1995, we dubbed him Max. We later learned that he had been known as Blackie. He passed away in 1998.

Thomas, whom we rescued in 1998, had been known as "Roadie" by his previous owner (short for Road Kill). :angry: Thomas passed away from a stroke last year.

Becky, our gray tabby store cat, was called Missy by the person who rescued her as a stray. We renamed her Becky when we adopted her. There is a story behind that, but I will save it for another time.


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mushroom Proficient
Hi shroomy!!!!!!!!!! smile.gif and welcome to madness......is Sophie your daughter?

Nah, she belongs to the whole country, her parents had to cede custody because everyone wanted to claim her. Just keep her outta the hands of the current guvmint, they'll turn her into a flamin' capitalist and pretty soon she'll be selling leg amputations on the 'net :lol: Would gladly claim her as mine own, but she looks so muchly betta than I did at her age, wouldn't work :(

shroom

flourgirl Apprentice

Good psillie mornin all! We've been having a heat wave here...record highs (not with cloves Psuess! :lol: ). Expecting 90's today....yipeeeeee, my favorite kind of weather! My boss hates me because she gets overheated easily, and I don't even break a sweat. (heh heh). Even if I did I wouldn't let her know. Used to sweat, but only in hard labor.....like pitching hay bales in the loft. I just wish it was an "at home" day for me.

Having trouble with algae in the pond because of all of the rain and mild temps. Probably because it's "all new" water again. I'll get it figured out!!!!! Can't use chemicals (wouldn't want to anyway) because of the wildlife, and because we are going to put in fish this year. Too early to buy snails,too.

Hope y'all're having a healthy, happy, shiny Sunday! TTYL :D

elye Community Regular

Goooood Sunday Morning, Psillies!

Hey! Mushroom has joined us! WELCOME, SHROOM! I have read other posts of yours in the last couple of months and immediately thought, "man, I hope she checks us out over in Tickle me Elbow.......she sounds very like a one of us". . . . .....

And you've arrived! :D

Tareeeesuh doesn't sweat.. .... ..Soooozle scurrying away from her wee Mexican man.. ...Jess soon to be serenading us. . ...she will be our fiddler on the roof!

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With faith, all things bad hold some good within. You both have such an amazing sense of humor, and peaceful acceptance. We could all learn something from you.

Simply had to repeat this......SO well said, and echoing with truth. .. . . .... :)

All right......we are running/walking a 5K event this am....cannot remember the cause. . .... .. but I am sore and decidedly NOT in high-performance condition. <_<:rolleyes: Think I'll be trottin' along beside The Ripper, who likes to plod happily along, watching everyone else, commenting on the flora and fauna slowly passing us by. . . . ..

Darn210 Enthusiast
Just remembered.........Janet is getting ready for her big garage sale.........I guess she doesn't do it like I do.........put it off til the last minute, then stay up the night before, frantically organizing and pricing.........

GYAN-NIT!!!.......Don't forget to put up yer signs and get some change for the cash box!!!!!

Hey all . . . just a quick poop-in . . . trying to get caught up on (already can't remember what page I was on) but tis time to stop and make some banana muffins for breakfast.

Had three families of sh!t crap tat in the garage with two additional families with a couple of items thrown in. Twas quite successful overall. I have not done the final numbers, but roughly, as a group we took in around $1100 (over three days). The sale was at our house so our garage has been out of commission for many days now . . . neighbors will be coming to get their remaining sh!t crap unsellables today.

More later.

mimommy Contributor
Yeah.....before our.....what do I call it?.........nightmare?

What an incredibly humbling story. I am sorry for the ordeal you have suffered through, and inspired and awed by your wit and strength.

:ph34r: :ph34r: not yet......

figured I had to start somewhere, and getting the instrument itself seemed like a good place

One of my few regrets in this life is that I never learned to play the violin. I love the sweet, sorrowful 'twang' more than any other form of music.

My favorites:

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Nah, she belongs to the whole country, her parents had to cede custody because everyone wanted to claim her. Just keep her outta the hands of the current guvmint, they'll turn her into a flamin' capitalist and pretty soon she'll be selling leg amputations on the 'net :lol: Would gladly claim her as mine own, but she looks so muchly betta than I did at her age, wouldn't work :(

Well hello!! A new psilly, huh? I hope she knows what she's getting in to... :unsure::blink::rolleyes:

And a cryptic little story, to boot :blink::ph34r:

I don't even break a sweat.

You're lucky. I bloat up like a blowfish, and hold more water than the hoover dam <_<

I watched "The Water Horse" wif my girl last night. Finally got some sleep.

Tried to write, but everything came out sounding like a bad Pearl Jam impression <<sigh>>

I have PMS so bad I fear I may wind up in jail, jacked up on Abilify or sumfin', cause every...little...thing is inciting evil thoughts from me :angry::(:o:rolleyes:

I'm off to the grocery store--AGAIN, ugh! Scott has requested chicken soup, daughter has requested lasagna (Tinkyada noodles work AWESOMELY). Laundry, housework, cleaning cages and litter box.

Another day chasing after dust bunnies and broken dreams...<<sigh>> :lol:

jerseyangel Proficient
Um - - is it too late to change my Kit's name? :blink:

I suppose if kitty doesn't mind, who are we to quibble? :P

There is a story behind that, but I will save it for another time.

Love the kitty stories :D

Having trouble with algae in the pond because of all of the rain and mild temps. Probably because it's "all new" water again. I'll get it figured out!!!!! Can't use chemicals (wouldn't want to anyway) because of the wildlife, and because we are going to put in fish this year. Too early to buy snails,too.

At our former house, we used an enzyme to help with the algae--help is the operative word, though <_< We didn't believe in using chemicals either--we had many fish and frogs would come by, too. With the string algae, Mark would just pull it out with his hands. It's amazing how effective that is.

Shiny Sunday to you, too!! :D

All right......we are running/walking a 5K event this am....cannot remember the cause. . .... ..

Em, you are amazing! :rolleyes:

Hey all . . . just a quick poop-in . . .

Jan-it!!!!! Missed you--good going on the garage sale! :)

Welcome back to Sillieville, Shroom!! :D

Happy Sunday, Sillies B)

jerseyangel Proficient
Another day chasing after dust bunnies and broken dreams...<<sigh>> :lol:

<snort>

I feel ya on the water retention/heat connection......happens to moi, too <_< PS--send lasagne :rolleyes:

Sillies--me MIL plays the violin. Beautiful instrument. I once asked her if she ever played it like a fiddle and she gave me a look (kind of a combo of :o and :huh: ) and said oh no.

I like fiddles :(:lol:

elye Community Regular

All right....I'm stretching my tired OLD body (thank gawd I am not on PMS Duty right now), then we're off.

Another day chasing after dust bunnies and broken dreams...<<sigh>> :lol:

'Tis an undiscovered Patsy Cline classic, if ever I have heard one. . . . . .. :lol:

I like fiddles :(:lol:

Me, too...... . ..especially on rooftops. . . . . ....

Jestgar Rising Star
.. ...Jess soon to be serenading us. . ...she will be our fiddler on the roof!

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I'm thinkin' more like this:Open Original Shared Link

Have fun watching the flora pass you by, M.

DingoGirl Enthusiast

GOOD SUNDAY MORNING SILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

emmel's running sight-seeing a 5K, gianknit's waiting for tatt removal, :lol: Geoss is waitin' for a fiddle!!!!!!!!!!! Shroomy arrives with a cryptic message - hey Shroom!!! did I read on the smoking thread that yer real name is Neroli? But it's not pronounced as we say it here? (na-ROE_lee) Such a fine, lovely scent, that is!!!!!!!!!! beautiful name, also. How exotic. And yet, we call you Shroomie :lol:

Me? well.......um...........I am not sure what I'm doing yet? gorgeous day.......mid-70's.....but have lots of cleaning to do for Fluffy Kat's (Jenn) arrival next Friday.

I should shampoo me damned carpets <_< but that will require hallucinogenics just to endure...

Good psillie mornin all! We've been having a heat wave here...record highs (not with cloves Psuess! ). Expecting 90's today....yipeeeeee, my favorite kind of weather! My boss hates me because she gets overheated easily, and I don't even break a sweat. (heh heh). Even if I did I wouldn't let her know. Used to sweat, but only in hard labor.....like pitching hay bales in the loft. I just wish it was an "at home" day for me.

:blink: what in hell? Tea LIKES 90 degrees????????????? and doesn't break a sweat?

<shaking head>

what in hell am I doing here :lol: I have got to move

Tareeeesuh doesn't sweat.. .... ..Soooozle scurrying away from her wee Mexican man.. ...Jess soon to be serenading us. . ...she will be our fiddler on the roof!

did you know that it's TOTALLY not PC to call Mexicans "Mexicans" in california? Yup, they're referred to as Hispanics. For a couple of decades now, I think.

Just an FYI. :lol:

Tried to write, but everything came out sounding like a bad Pearl Jam impression <<sigh>>

I have PMS so bad I fear I may wind up in jail, jacked up on Abilify or sumfin', cause every...little...thing is inciting evil thoughts from me

I'm off to the grocery store--AGAIN, ugh! Scott has requested chicken soup, daughter has requested lasagna (Tinkyada noodles work AWESOMELY). Laundry, housework, cleaning cages and litter box.

Another day chasing after dust bunnies and broken dreams...<<sigh>>

I am sorry for your PMS, Mimms, but dang, you IS SO FUNNY when you're cranky!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

but - Abilify? :o took it years ago, for about two weeks......maybe twice I tried it? OMG - worst thing I've ever taken.......made me psychotic.........agitated........crazy......crawling out of my skin.........

so we turned it into a verb - "have you been abilified?" :lol:

Hope your day gets better, Mimms. You bring us such joy.

Sillies--me MIL plays the violin. Beautiful instrument. I once asked her if she ever played it like a fiddle and she gave me a look and said oh no.

I like fiddles

*snort*

:lol:

I LOVE fiddles!!!!!!!!!!!!! and bluegrass of most kinds.

Wish to hell I could play the gee-tar. :( Maybe I"ll try again.

more later, Sills!!!!!!

it actually IS a slightly shiny day over here!!!! and I didn't awaken feeling like UTTER RUBBISH today!! :huh:

curlyfries Contributor
"No need to talk it out, we know what it's all about. Walkin' around, some kind of lonely clown, rainy days and mondays always get me down". I SO loved Karen Carpenter. I am convinced that *she* had celiac disease. What a waste and a shame!

Karen Carpenter!!! I had ALL her albums :P

I think I'll be going dancing today....first time since I've been back. Wish Brian were here. It's always awkward when I see friends for the first time since being back. They're always so uncomfortable and/or sympathetic, and I'm trying to move past it all. But they're good people. And I have more 'thank you's' to deliver.

Trying hard to get back into my old routine, but I don't feel like the same person I was.

I stayed up til about 4 AM cleaning me house.......mostly DD's crap tatt. She and the fiancee are on it today. It's starting to look liveable again. :)

Oooohh!!....I bought 11 items of clothing for $10 at a garage sale....including a Victoria's Secret sweater dress....sooooo soft! :D

elye Community Regular

Well, it was a poifect day to be runnin'. . . . .....a cool 10 C, overcast.. ......I took my time as I was with the kids. OMG......Mr. Chow was in this event. . . ....I saw him ahead of me, jogging serenely along. There is something to this Tai Chi thing -- 'tis magic, for sure, as he must be 70 and he stayed right ahead of me the entire time.

What in hell? He is magical figure. ..... P'raps he is taking ephedra, er Tiger Balm er sumfin'. . . . ...

:rolleyes:

did you know that it's TOTALLY not PC to call Mexicans "Mexicans" in california? Yup, they're referred to as Hispanics. For a couple of decades now, I think.

:lol::lol: This strikes me as SO amusing, and probably only me. Are "Hispanics" only those from Mexico? What about people from other Spanish-speaking countries, like El Salvador, Colombia, Guatemala, etc.? :unsure: Confused.....are they not also Hispanic? We are no longer permitted, in good taste, to refer to someone from Mexico as "Mexican". . .. . ..so can I still refer to someone from Argentina as "Argentinian"? this may be rude, now. . . .... :huh:

Even referring so someone as "Chinese" can elicit a wince nowadays. . .....they are....East Asian.. .. . ....

Must ask Mr. Chow. .. .... . ....if I can catch up to him . . .. ..

:lol:

Oooohh!!....I bought 11 items of clothing for $10 at a garage sale....including a Victoria's Secret sweater dress....sooooo soft! :D

Hey! Any beautiful people in Walmart frames? :rolleyes:

Leeeeesargh is going dancing! This is great news. . . ....

mimommy Contributor
I feel ya on the water retention/heat connection......happens to moi, too <_< PS--send lasagne :rolleyes:

I like fiddles

Would love to send lasagne. Or even better, prepare for all of you in persona :)

Sorry to hear you suffer from the thick ankles fat fingers edema like I do. It just started happening about 2 years ago. Such fun, and really adds to the summer wardrobe. A great addition to heat rash, sunburn, peeling layers of tan-in-a-can.

Well, fiddle-me-ree--I :wub: the fiddle, too.

I'm thinkin' more like this:Open Original Shared Link

That reminds me of hava nagila.

Me? well.......um...........I am not sure what I'm doing yet? gorgeous day.......mid-70's.....but have lots of cleaning to do for Fluffy Kat's (Jenn) arrival next Friday.

I am sorry for your PMS, Mimms, but dang, you IS SO FUNNY when you're cranky!!!!!!!!!!

Hope your day gets better, Mimms. You bring us such joy.

I LOVE fiddles!!!!!!!!!!!!! and bluegrass of most kinds.

Suze, who is this 'Fluffy Kat' of whom you speak and clean for? Have you heard any more from your old roommate? I meant to comment on that a long time ago. What are the chances of both of you actually having celiac--like one in a million?? Amazing.

Yes, the P, the M, and the S. All suckage.

But I'm livin' the dream, baby, livin' the dream...

And bluegrass B)

Allison Krauss and her band Union Station--love them.

Karen Carpenter!!! I had ALL her albums :P

They're always so uncomfortable and/or sympathetic, and I'm trying to move past it all. But they're good people.

I stayed up til about 4 AM cleaning me house.......mostly DD's crap tatt. She and the fiancee are on it today. It's starting to look liveable again. :)

Oooohh!!....I bought 11 items of clothing for $10 at a garage sale....including a Victoria's Secret sweater dress....sooooo soft! :D

"Hurting Each Other" is probably my fave, but who can resist such greats as "Superstar" and "Close To You"--gawd I'm a geek. Must put on some oldies/goodies whilst cookin the weekly feed bag.

<<<Hugs>>> for the "moving past it all".

You cleaned til 4 am??? Are you daft? Sleep, my dear, sleep--this is the stuff I like.

Woohoo--cheap clothes!! Round here we shop at Sal's Boutique.

mimommy Contributor

Pssst...

I forgot to add the fabric softener to the hot load. All of the socks and unmentionables came out extra-crispy.

Do you think they'll notice?

Jestgar Rising Star
Pssst...

I forgot to add the fabric softener to the hot load. All of the socks and unmentionables came out extra-crispy.

Do you think they'll notice?

Just make sure no one gets sent out the door with panties static-clung to their back.

Jestgar Rising Star

You've all seen this:

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and I found this:

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elye Community Regular
Have you heard any more from your old roommate? I meant to comment on that a long time ago. What are the chances of both of you actually having celiac--like one in a million?? Amazing.

Gah, 'tis not amazing A 'TALL!! I meet two or three people a week who, after listening patiently to all of their symptoms, the old "I've missed work/the gym/school/that party", I am convinced are having problems with gluten.

At the last local celiac foundation meeting I went to, I unexpectedly met three people whom I know from years ago, from different areas of my life....all are celiac.

Both my husband and I are celiac!

My dentist is celiac.

the principal at Jack's school is celiac.

My hairdresser - -celiac.

'Tis everywhere. 'Tis common...... . . . ..Jyess, I need some o' your violin music about now. . .. .. . ..

:rolleyes:

Yes, the P, the M, and the S. All suckage.

What does PMS really stand for?

Pardon My Sobbing

Pass My Shotgun

Pimples May Surface

:lol:

Pssst...

I forgot to add the fabric softener to the hot load. All of the socks and unmentionables came out extra-crispy.

Do you think they'll notice?

:lol: You probably don't need hangers for yer shirts.....just stand 'em up in the closet. . ......and you won't have to fold anything, because you likely CAN'T. . . .....

elye Community Regular

Raechull! Your crispy socks, undies and jeans . ...... . the big question:

Would they blend?

:huh:

:lol:

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      Hello, @asaT, I'm curious to know whether you are taking other B vitamins like Thiamine B1 and Niacin B3.  Malabsorption in Celiac disease affects all the water soluble B vitamins and Vitamin C.  Thiamine and Niacin are required to produce energy for all the homocysteine lowering reactions provided by Folate, Cobalamine and Pyridoxine.   Weight gain with a voracious appetite is something I experienced while malnourished.  It's symptomatic of Thiamine B1 deficiency.   Conversely, some people with thiamine deficiency lose their appetite altogether, and suffer from anorexia.  At different periods on my lifelong journey, I suffered this, too.   When the body doesn't have sufficient thiamine to turn food, especially carbohydrates, into energy (for growth and repair), the body rations what little thiamine it has available, and turns the carbs into fat, and stores it mostly in the abdomen.  Consuming a high carbohydrate diet requires additional thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  Simple carbohydrates (sugar, white rice, etc.) don't contain thiamine, so the body easily depletes its stores of Thiamine processing the carbs into fat.  The digestive system communicates with the brain to keep eating in order to consume more thiamine and other nutrients it's not absorbing.   One can have a subclinical thiamine insufficiency for years.  A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function, so the symptoms can wax and wane mysteriously.  Symptoms of Thiamine insufficiency include stunted growth, chronic fatigue, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi (diarrhea, abdominal pain), heart attack, Alzheimer's, stroke, and cancer.   Thiamine improves bone turnover.  Thiamine insufficiency can also affect the thyroid.  The thyroid is important in bone metabolism.  The thyroid also influences hormones, like estrogen and progesterone, and menopause.  Vitamin D, at optimal levels, can act as a hormone and can influence the thyroid, as well as being important to bone health, and regulating the immune system.  Vitamin A is important to bone health, too, and is necessary for intestinal health, as well.   I don't do dairy because I react to Casein, the protein in dairy that resembles gluten and causes a reaction the same as if I'd been exposed to gluten, including high tTg IgA.  I found adding mineral water containing calcium and other minerals helpful in increasing my calcium intake.   Malabsorption of Celiac affects all the vitamins and minerals.  I do hope you'll talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing all eight B vitamins and the four fat soluble vitamins because they all work together interconnectedly.  
    • Florence Lillian
      Hi Jane: You may want to try the D3 I now take. I have reactions to fillers and many additives. Sports Research, it is based in the USA and I have had no bad reactions with this brand. The D3 does have coconut oil but it is non GMO, it is Gluten free, Soy free, Soybean free and Safflower oil free.  I have a cupboard full of supplements that did not agree with me -  I just keep trying and have finally settled on Sports Research. I take NAKA Women's Multi full spectrum, and have not felt sick after taking 2 capsules per day -  it is a Canadian company. I buy both from Amazon. I wish you well in your searching, I know how discouraging it all is. Florence.  
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