Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Weakly Positive Blood Test - What Should I Do?


georgiagirl

Recommended Posts

georgiagirl Rookie

Hello everyone,

I have had extreme bloating for years and have been unable to figure out the cause.

In January, my gastroentonology gave me a blood test for celiacs.

There were some serious miscommunications between the doctor and the nurse. The nurse called me and said the blood test tested "positive" for celiacs. I was devastated.

She said the doctor didn't want me to change my diet till I saw him for a scheduled colonoscopy 8 weeks later. I spent the next 24 hours reading everything I could about celiacs disease.

Informed, I called the nurse back to see if the reason the doctor didn't want me to change my diet was because he was going to do a biopsy to test for celiacs at the same time as when he did my colonoscopy. "Exactly" she said.

So for the next 8 weeks, I forced myself to eat even more gluten to prepare for the biopsy. I didn't want to get a false negative. I realized I had subconsciously reduced a great deal of gluten in my diet already, so adding it back in for the biopsy was a big effort.

When the doctor did the colonoscopy (yesterday), he didn't do the biopsies for celiacs. Apparently he never was planning to and it was a big miscommunication between him and the nurse. When I asked him why he didn't do the biopsy, he said there was no need because I only tested "weakly positive" for celiacs. My blood test results were 8 and needed to be 10 or above to be considered celiacs.

I'm furious about the miscommunication.

I'm trying to figure out what to do next. Should I

1) immediately eliminate all gluten from my diet and assume I have early stage celiacs?; or

2) scale back on gluten, but don't eliminate it?; or

3) continue eating lots of gluten and get another blood test (and possibly a biopsy) after a few more weeks?; or

4) file a complaint against the doctor and nurse?

I welcome your advice! Anyone know a good celiac's expert in the Atlanta area that I can consult with?

Thanks in advance for your help.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



chrissy Collaborator

if 10 and above is considered celiac and you only tested at an 8, then that is NOT weakly positive, it is negative. the doc can't test for celiac when he does a colonoscopy. they do biopsies for celiac with an endoscopy. if you feel better when you are gluten free, just stay gluten free.

Nancym Enthusiast

It's up to you really. That's what this whole testing stuff is about, satisfying your need to know so you can keep yourself on the diet. Some people would probably go half-arsed if they didn't have a diagnosis (some do anyway). For me, trying the diet and having my issues resolve was enough to make me want to keep at it.

georgiagirl Rookie
if 10 and above is considered celiac and you only tested at an 8, then that is NOT weakly positive, it is negative. the doc can't test for celiac when he does a colonoscopy. they do biopsies for celiac with an endoscopy. if you feel better when you are gluten free, just stay gluten free.

Thanks Chrissy. The test results form says negative is 0-3, weakly positive is 4-10 and positive is greater than 10. I realize the biopsy for celiac is through an endoscopy, not a colonoscopy, but I though they would do both while I was under general anesthetic for the colonoscopy.

georgiagirl Rookie
It's up to you really. That's what this whole testing stuff is about, satisfying your need to know so you can keep yourself on the diet. Some people would probably go half-arsed if they didn't have a diagnosis (some do anyway). For me, trying the diet and having my issues resolve was enough to make me want to keep at it.

Thanks Nancy. I've read that if you give up gluten, it would take months of eating it before getting an accurate test. I can't decide whether to keep eating and get tested (to give me the willpower to stick with the diet), or just eliminate it entirely right now.

Mtndog Collaborator

Just wanted to relate my experience. I tested weakly positive and had to wait 2 months for a GI appointment so I went gluten-free right away. Of course, my biopsy came back negative even after a short time (6 weeks) being gluten free and then doing a 10 day gluten intake. the doctor only took one biopsy and you need many more. Even then, they are not 100% accurate (neither is the blood test- a lot more false negatives).

I was FINALLY diagnosed via a gene test after being gluten-free over a year. If you feel better without gluten (positive dietary response) and have ANY kind of positive bloodwork, I would find a new GI and stay gluten-free. My guess is you DO have celiac and I'd hate to see anyone go through what I did.

georgiagirl Rookie
Just wanted to relate my experience. I tested weakly positive and had to wait 2 months for a GI appointment so I went gluten-free right away. Of course, my biopsy came back negative even after a short time (6 weeks) being gluten free and then doing a 10 day gluten intake. the doctor only took one biopsy and you need many more. Even then, they are not 100% accurate (neither is the blood test- a lot more false negatives).

I was FINALLY diagnosed via a gene test after being gluten-free over a year. If you feel better without gluten (positive dietary response) and have ANY kind of positive bloodwork, I would find a new GI and stay gluten-free. My guess is you DO have celiac and I'd hate to see anyone go through what I did.

Thanks Mtndog. How and where do I go to get a gene test? It sounds like that test is not impacted by whether you are eating gluten or have eliminated it.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



chrissy Collaborator

georgiagirl----that looks like you are closer to positive than you are to negative.(it was helpful to know the whole scale) you should be able to continue on the diet and then retest in a few months. if your levels have dropped, you most likely have celiac disease-----i assume the test you are talking about is the Ttg? i think that positive is positive whether it is weak or not. i'm really surprised your doc did not do an endoscopy with your test results!!

nora-n Rookie

Georgiagirl, I think you shoud keep eating gluten and get a proper biopsy. That is because you were eating gluten up to now, and if you waant to go back on gluten later you need to be on gluten for at least three months they say now. Get it done now.

I think the blood test results mean you are almost quite positive, and my daughter and I never even had any postitive blood test. They are really not that sensitive. Lots of people have negative blood tests and have positive biopsies.

If the blood tests are positive, it almost 100% is positive. (ttg)

I really think you should beg him to do the endoscopy, and take lots of samples, like 12-15 since early celiac is often patchy.

I do not think a complaint is the way to go, although they screwed up.

I am in europe, where we need a proper diagnosis, si my thinking is biased...

I read at celiac. com that you should be consuming at least 300 mg ogf gluten per kg a day, that would be about 21 grams for a normal person and that would be about 300 grams ogf bread here. I do not know about your local bread.

nora

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Mari replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      15

      My only proof

    2. - Rejoicephd commented on Jefferson Adams's article in Gluten-Free Cooking
      1

      Your Complete Gluten-Free Thanksgiving Plan: Recipes, Tips & Holiday Favorites

    3. - marion wheaton replied to marion wheaton's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      3

      Are Lindt chocolate balls gluten free?

    4. - trents replied to marion wheaton's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      3

      Are Lindt chocolate balls gluten free?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,416
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Heather8280
    Newest Member
    Heather8280
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Mari
      Years  ago a friend and I drove north into Canada hoping to find a ski resort open in late spring,We were in my VW and found a small ski area near a small town and started up this gravelled road up a mountain. We  got about halfway up and got stuck in the mud. We tried everything we could think of but an hour later we were still stuck. Finally a pickup came down the road, laughed at our situation, then pulled the VW free of the mud. We followed him back to the ski area where where he started up the rope ski lift and we had an enjoyable hour of skiing and gave us a shot of aquavit  before we left.It was a great rescue.  In some ways this reminds me of your situation. You are waiting for a rescue and you have chosen medical practitioners to do it now or as soon as possible. As you have found out the med. experts have not learned how to help you. You face years of continuing to feel horrible, frustrated searching for your rescuer to save you. You can break away from from this pattern of thinking and you have begun breaking  away by using some herbs and supplements from doTerra. Now you can start trying some of the suggestions thatother Celiacs have written to your original posts.  You live with other people who eat gluten foods. Cross contamination is very possible. Are you sure that their food is completely separate from their food. It  is not only the gluten grains you need to avoid (wheat, barley, rye) but possibly oats, cows milk also. Whenever you fall back into that angry and frustrated way of thinking get up and walk around for a whild. You will learn ways to break that way of thinking about your problems.  Best wishes for your future. May you enjpy a better life.  
    • marion wheaton
      Thanks for responding. I researched further and Lindt Lindor chocolate balls do contain barely malt powder which contains gluten. I was surprised at all of the conflicting information I found when I checked online.
    • trents
      @BlessedinBoston, it is possible that in Canada the product in question is formulated differently than in the USA or at least processed in in a facility that precludes cross contamination. I assume from your user name that you are in the USA. And it is also possible that the product meets the FDA requirement of not more than 20ppm of gluten but you are a super sensitive celiac for whom that standard is insufficient. 
    • BlessedinBoston
      No,Lindt is not gluten free no matter what they say on their website. I found out the hard way when I was newly diagnosed in 2000. At that time the Lindt truffles were just becoming popular and were only sold in small specialty shops at the mall. You couldn't buy them in any stores like today and I was obsessed with them 😁. Took me a while to get around to checking them and was heartbroken when I saw they were absolutely not gluten free 😔. Felt the same when I realized Twizzlers weren't either. Took me a while to get my diet on order after being diagnosed. I was diagnosed with small bowel non Hodgkins lymphoma at the same time. So it was a very stressful time to say the least. Hope this helps 😁.
    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, I understand your frustration and anger.  I've been in a similar situation where no doctor took me seriously, accused me of making things up, and eventually sent me home to suffer alone.   My doctors did not recognize nutritional deficiencies.  Doctors are trained in medical learning institutions that are funded by pharmaceutical companies.  They are taught which medications cover up which symptoms.  Doctors are required to take twenty  hours of nutritional education in seven years of medical training.  (They can earn nine hours in Nutrition by taking a three day weekend seminar.)  They are taught nutritional deficiencies are passe' and don't happen in our well fed Western society any more.  In Celiac Disease, the autoimmune response and inflammation affects the absorption of ALL the essential vitamins and minerals.  Correcting nutritional deficiencies caused by malabsorption is essential!  I begged my doctor to check my Vitamin D level, which he did only after making sure my insurance would cover it.  When my Vitamin D came back extremely low, my doctor was very surprised, but refused to test for further nutritional deficiencies because he "couldn't make money prescribing vitamins.". I believe it was beyond his knowledge, so he blamed me for making stuff up, and stormed out of the exam room.  I had studied Nutrition before earning a degree in Microbiology.  I switched because I was curious what vitamins from our food were doing in our bodies.  Vitamins are substances that our bodies cannot manufacture, so we must ingest them every day.  Without them, our bodies cannot manufacture life sustaining enzymes and we sicken and die.   At home alone, I could feel myself dying.  It's an unnerving feeling, to say the least, and, so, with nothing left to lose, I relied in my education in nutrition.  My symptoms of Thiamine deficiency were the worst, so I began taking high dose Thiamine.  I had health improvement within an hour.  It was magical.  I continued taking high dose thiamine with a B Complex, magnesium. and other essential nutrients.  The health improvements continued for months.  High doses of thiamine are required to correct a thiamine deficiency because thiamine affects every cell and mitochondria in our bodies.    A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function.  The cerebellum of the brain is most affected.  The cerebellum controls things we don't have to consciously have to think about, like digestion, balance, breathing, blood pressure, heart rate, hormone regulation, and many more.  Thiamine is absorbed from the digestive tract and sent to the most important organs like the brain and the heart.  This leaves the digestive tract depleted of Thiamine and symptoms of Gastrointestinal Beriberi, a thiamine deficiency localized in the digestive system, begin to appear.  Symptoms of Gastrointestinal Beriberi include anxiety, depression, chronic fatigue, headaches, Gerd, acid reflux, gas, slow stomach emptying, gastroparesis, bloating, diarrhea and/or constipation, incontinence, abdominal pain, IBS,  SIBO, POTS, high blood pressure, heart rate changes like tachycardia, difficulty swallowing, Barrett's Esophagus, peripheral neuropathy, and more. Doctors are only taught about thiamine deficiency in alcoholism and look for the classic triad of symptoms (changes in gait, mental function, and nystagmus) but fail to realize that gastrointestinal symptoms can precede these symptoms by months.  All three classic triad of symptoms only appear in fifteen percent of patients, with most patients being diagnosed with thiamine deficiency post mortem.  I had all three but swore I didn't drink, so I was dismissed as "crazy" and sent home to die basically.   Yes, I understand how frustrating no answers from doctors can be.  I took OTC Thiamine Hydrochloride, and later thiamine in the forms TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) and Benfotiamine to correct my thiamine deficiency.  I also took magnesium, needed by thiamine to make those life sustaining enzymes.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins, so the other B vitamins must be supplemented as well.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.   A doctor can administer high dose thiamine by IV along with the other B vitamins.  Again, Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine should be given if only to rule Gastrointestinal Beriberi out as a cause of your symptoms.  If no improvement, no harm is done. Share the following link with your doctors.  Section Three is especially informative.  They need to be expand their knowledge about Thiamine and nutrition in Celiac Disease.  Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test for thiamine deficiency.  This test is more reliable than a blood test. Thiamine, gastrointestinal beriberi and acetylcholine signaling.  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12014454/ Best wishes!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.