Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

12 Years! What's The Point Of Diagnosis?


coffee1

Recommended Posts

coffee1 Newbie

I have been diagnosed with: Psych issues, (for the skin rash mind you) Pregnancy rash (for 12 years?) subdermal something (basically they said you have a rash. We don't know what it is. Sorry.) adult eczema (none of the things I did helped) very mild allergies to trees, grass, mold, dust, animals (um, basically everything to cover their butts because they couldn't quite figure it out) In the 12 years I have seen as many Dr's. Every one with a different story. Most said it was an autoimmune thing but couldn't find it. None of them addressed the "whole picture" My extreme fatigue, the rash, my poop issues, depression, joint discomfort. Why do they always want to say that it is a psych thing? It seems they can't get past the depression. HELLO!

I have a couple of friends that are celiac. I figure what do I have to lose? Go on the diet for a week and my symptoms immediately relieve. Not completely clear but relief! This has affected my whole life. I can't wear shorts or sleeves out. Or I get, "wow the bugs really like you!" or the evaluating my skin with a disgusting look. Hey I can't help it. I wake up and I have scratched all night and I don't even know it. Or have my husband run his hand over a spot and pull back... Yea, that makes a person feel like being romantic. I worry myself crazy about getting MARSA with all these stupid sores...

Anyway, Why go to the trouble of getting an official diagnosis? I started eating my regular diet so I could be assured of a positive diagnosis. But I can't stand it. I itch so bad! What is the point of having the Dr's diagnosis? Is it for future issues I might have? I am happy to finally know what this thing is.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



AndreaB Contributor

Getting a diagnosis from a doctor is a personal thing. My family is not officially diagnosed, but we did have positive ELISA IgG tests as well as celiac genes.

I don't know whether we had progressed to celiac but consider us celiac due to the genes.

Be sure to check your soap/shampoo etc. for wheat/oats/barley or rye. I know wheat and oats are in quite a few.

ShayFL Enthusiast

I do not have an "official" diagnosis. The genes and positive response to the diet is enough for me. If I have future health concerns, they can treat those. I do not see why having an official diagnosis would change future care. You will need to tell doctors/hospitals that you are "allergic" to gluten. But other than that........

Tim-n-VA Contributor

Not having the official diagnosis is not a barrier to future care. However, the celiac related symptoms overlap a lot of other diseases/conditions. Diseases also tend to occur in clusters. Having an autoimmune disease like celiac makes is more likely that you'll have other autoimmune diseases like diabetes or thryroid problems.

Bottom line is the more you and your doctor know the better off you'll be. Human bodies are complex and differential diagnosis can be tricky with overlapping symptoms.

Ursa Major Collaborator

It sounds like you have DH (dermatitis herpetiformis), which is only caused by celiac disease. If you still have a lot of active blisters, you could have your skin biopsied (right BESIDE an active, blistery outbreak, never through it). If you are diagnosed with DH, you have your celiac disease diagnosis, without bothering with the regular tests for celiac disease.

You could also still go to your doctor and have your blood drawn to do the celiac disease panel.

Or you could just consider yourself self-diagnosed and just keep eating gluten-free (like me). If the gluten-free diet is relieving your symptoms, be glad and stick with it.

linuxprincess Rookie

Many people with DH suffer for various lengths of time and finally realize what is going on with their bodies. Glad that you figured it out, though! Once you find out that being gluten-free helps this, why would you ever eat it again? The one thing that everyone agrees on is that gluten-free helps this issue. Some times there are other foods that can trigger this condition as well, so I do recommend a food allergy test just to double check things.

Welcome to the Board!

CarolAnne Apprentice

The only diagnosis I ever got was Wheat Allergies...I just stickwith that. I have never been diagnosed with Celiac...but I am German and Irish descent (sp??) so I figure I definately have the gene...that's good enough for me.

By the time I was able to get a decent diagnosis of Wheat Allergies I was covered (nearly 75%) with the rash. I was miserable!! Doctors kept telling I'd have to learn to live with it...ha! Like they ever could!!

I went on the WF/gluten-free diet full speed...and started taking a homeopathic fungal medicine called FNG that I got from my Naturopathic Physician. And I was 95% cleared up in only a few weeks. I stopped taking the FNG but continue on the Diet still. I now have only a few small spots on my hands...that I think will never go away...but I feel 100% better.

Perhaps you could check here Open Original Shared Link for a Naturopathic Doctor in your area who could help you.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



RoseTapper Newbie

I can completely identify with your doctor problems. I also went from dermatologist to dermatologist and doctor to doctor to find out what was wrong. The last dermatologist I visited about it (17 years ago) also recommended that I see a psychologist to "Help you accept the diagnosis of severe acne." In the end, I figured it out myself. My son grew up to have the same condition--and in the same areas on the body/face--and we both have to eat gluten-free to keep the blisters at bay and to feel well. It's up to you if you want a true diagnosis, but if doctors give you the heebie-geebies like they do me, why bother? Now you know what is wrong, and you're on the path to better health--good for you!

Jenm4cm Newbie
I have been diagnosed with: Psych issues, (for the skin rash mind you) Pregnancy rash (for 12 years?) subdermal something (basically they said you have a rash. We don't know what it is. Sorry.) adult eczema (none of the things I did helped) very mild allergies to trees, grass, mold, dust, animals (um, basically everything to cover their butts because they couldn't quite figure it out) In the 12 years I have seen as many Dr's. Every one with a different story. Most said it was an autoimmune thing but couldn't find it. None of them addressed the "whole picture" My extreme fatigue, the rash, my poop issues, depression, joint discomfort. Why do they always want to say that it is a psych thing? It seems they can't get past the depression. HELLO!

I have a couple of friends that are celiac. I figure what do I have to lose? Go on the diet for a week and my symptoms immediately relieve. Not completely clear but relief! This has affected my whole life. I can't wear shorts or sleeves out. Or I get, "wow the bugs really like you!" or the evaluating my skin with a disgusting look. Hey I can't help it. I wake up and I have scratched all night and I don't even know it. Or have my husband run his hand over a spot and pull back... Yea, that makes a person feel like being romantic. I worry myself crazy about getting MARSA with all these stupid sores...

Anyway, Why go to the trouble of getting an official diagnosis? I started eating my regular diet so I could be assured of a positive diagnosis. But I can't stand it. I itch so bad! What is the point of having the Dr's diagnosis? Is it for future issues I might have? I am happy to finally know what this thing is.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,918
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Dizzyma
    Newest Member
    Dizzyma
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Welcome to the celic.com community @Dizzyma! I'm assuming you are in the U.K. since you speak of your daughter's celiac disease blood tests as "her bloods".  Has her physician officially diagnosed her has having celiac disease on the results of her blood tests alone? Normally, if the ttg-iga blood test results are positive, a follow-up endoscopy with biopsy of the small bowel lining to check for damage would be ordered to confirm the results of "the bloods". However if the ttg-iga test score is 10x normal or greater, some physicians, particularly in the U.K., will dispense with the endoscopy/biopsy. If there is to be an endoscopy/biopsy, your daughter should not yet begin the gluten free diet as doing so would allow healing of the small bowel lining to commence which may result in a biopsy finding having results that conflict with the blood work. Do you know if an endoscopy/biopsy is planned? Celiac disease can have onset at any stage of life, from infancy to old age. It has a genetic base but the genes remain dormant until and unless triggered by some stress event. The stress event can be many things but it is often a viral infection. About 40% of the general population have the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% actually develop celiac disease. So, for most, the genes remain dormant.  Celiac disease is by nature an autoimmune disorder. That is to say, gluten ingestion triggers an immune response that causes the body to attack its own tissues. In this case, the attack happens in he lining of the small bowel, at least classically, though we now know there are other body systems that can sometimes be affected. So, for a person with celiac disease, when they ingest gluten, the body sends attacking cells to battle the gluten which causes inflammation as the gluten is being absorbed into the cells that make up the lining of the small bowel. This causes damage to the cells and over time, wears them down. This lining is composed of billions of tiny finger-like projections and which creates a tremendous surface area for absorbing nutrients from the food we eat. This area of the intestinal track is where all of our nutrition is absorbed. As these finger-like projections get worn down by the constant inflammation from continued gluten consumption before diagnosis (or after diagnosis in the case of those who are noncompliant) the efficiency of nutrient absorption from what we eat can be drastically reduced. This is why iron deficiency anemia and other nutrient deficiency related medical problems are so common in the celiac population. So, to answer your question about the wisdom of allowing your daughter to consume gluten on a limited basis to retain some tolerance to it, that would not be a sound approach because it would prevent healing of the lining of her small bowel. It would keep the fires of inflammation smoldering. The only wise course is strict adherence to a gluten free diet, once all tests to confirm celiac disease are complete.
    • Dizzyma
      Hi all, I have so many questions and feel like google is giving me very different information. Hoping I may get some more definite answers here. ok, my daughter has been diagnosed as a coeliac as her bloods show anti TTG antibodies are over 128. We have started her  on a full gluten free diet. my concerns are that she wasn’t actually physically sick on her regular diet, she had tummy issues and skin sores. My fear is that she will build up a complete intolerance to gluten and become physically sick if she has gluten. Is there anything to be said for keeping a small bit of gluten in the diet to stop her from developing a total intolerance?  also, she would be an anxious type of person, is it possible that stress is the reason she has become coeliac? I read that diagnosis later in childhood could be following a sickness or stress. How can she have been fine for the first 10 years and then become coeliac? sorry, I’m just very confused and really want to do right by her. I know a coeliac and she has a terrible time after she gets gluttened so just want to make sure going down a total gluten free road is the right choice. thank you for any help or advise xx 
    • xxnonamexx
      very interesting thanks for the info  
    • Florence Lillian
      More cookie recipes ...thanks so much for the heads-up Scott.  One can never have too many.  Cheers, Florence.
    • Russ H
      Hi Charlie, You sound like you have been having a rough time of it. Coeliac disease can cause a multitude of skin, mouth and throat problems. Mouth ulcers and enamel defects are well known but other oral conditions are also more common in people with coeliac disease: burning tongue, inflamed and swollen tongue, difficulty swallowing, redness and crusting in the mouth corners, and dry mouth to name but some. The link below is for paediatric dentistry but it applies to adults too.  Have you had follow up for you coeliac disease to check that your anti-tTG2 antibodies levels have come down? Are you certain that you not being exposed to significant amounts of gluten? Are you taking a PPI for your Barrett's oesophagus? Signs of changes to the tongue can be caused by nutritional deficiencies, particularly iron, B12 and B9 (folate) deficiency. I would make sure to take a good quality multivitamin every day and make sure to take it with vitamin C containing food - orange juice, broccoli, cabbage etc.  Sebaceous hyperplasia is common in older men and I can't find a link to coeliac disease.   Russ.   Oral Manifestations in Pediatric Patients with Coeliac Disease – A Review Article
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.