Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Soy Sauce


Jonine73

Recommended Posts

Jonine73 Rookie

I'm new to all of this so maybe someone can give me direction. I love soy sauce and heard recently that Kikkoman was tested and found free of gluten because of the fermentation process even though it is brewed using wheat? Does anyone know where the actual research for this is on the web? Is this true? I just can't stand the thought of using Great Value brand (La Choy is contaminated). Currently I am using San J wheat free but the COST!! :o


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



happygirl Collaborator

Many on here use La Choy successfully....what is the contamination problem?

Lisa Mentor
(La Choy is contaminated).

I have never heard that LaChoy Soy Sauce is contaminated.

I use LaChoy for cooking and marinating and San J wheat free Tamari for tasting.

purple Community Regular

We use Bragg's Liquid Aminos. Its gluten-free and GMO free. Great soy sauce sub.

Open Original Shared Link

Also use their salad dressing and apple cider vinegar.

Jonine73 Rookie
Many on here use La Choy successfully....what is the contamination problem?

The caramel color possibly. I have a celiac friend who can't use it because she reacts everytime to it.

psawyer Proficient
The caramel color possibly. I have a celiac friend who can't use it because she reacts everytime to it.

Just because your friend has a reaction to the product does not necessarily mean that the reaction is caused by gluten. Many celiacs have other sensitivities.

Caramel color in North America is derived from corn, as it has a longer shelf life that other sources. Regardless of the source, caramel color is so highly processed that no detectable gluten remains in the color. The color is then diluted by its use in the finished product. There is no gluten from that source.

Source: Gluten-Free Diet-A Comprehensive Resource Guide-Expanded Edition, Shelley Case.

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular

I'd like to get back to the original poster's question--does the fermentation process in Kikkoman and other Asian soy sauces break down the gluten?

I have also heard this through the grapevine, but have seen no research on this. Perhaps someone could contact Kikkoman to find out? Or maybe it's a celiac urban legend?

However, I do have a celiac colleague who is very sensitive to gluten--except to soy sauce, which she claims gives her no reaction . And I have another colleague, from China, who is very sensitive to wheat since coming to this country--but in China, before moving here, had no problem with soy sauce-containing dishes. So maybe there is something to this theory, after all, but what I write here is only anecdotal and not hard evidence.

So don't go trying soy sauce to see if you react! That's not hard evidence, either.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular

Aha! I did some detective work and found this: Open Original Shared Link

Click on the above, then on the pdf link (I don't know how to copy it, or I would have copied it to this thread).

lizard00 Enthusiast

I unknowingly had something with soy sauce in it (found out later) and had my normal gluten reaction. Was sick for a week... I stick with San-J.

MySuicidalTurtle Enthusiast

San-J is what we use pretty much everyday.

YUM!

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular
I unknowingly had something with soy sauce in it (found out later) and had my normal gluten reaction. Was sick for a week... I stick with San-J.

Is Kikkoman fermented differently than other soy sauces? It looks (from their pdf document) like their testing indicates about 100 times LESS gluten ppm than the Codex standard for gluten-free (which we all agree is too much).

The other interesting thing is that it looks like they DO have the capability to test for practically zero gluten (they came up with .02 ppm!) --so why isn't everyone adopting THAT standard?????

Jeremiah Apprentice

Hy-Vee Brand was on their gluten-free list. (they have a downloadable list on their website) Hy-Vee is a grocery store in the midwest.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Florence Lillian replied to lmemsm's topic in Gluten-Free Recipes & Cooking Tips
      13

      gluten free cookie recipes

    2. - Russ H replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      15

      Severe severe mouth pain

    3. - cristiana replied to Charlie1946's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      15

      Severe severe mouth pain

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,916
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Ykat
    Newest Member
    Ykat
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • xxnonamexx
      very interesting thanks for the info  
    • Florence Lillian
      More cookie recipes ...thanks so much for the heads-up Scott.  One can never have too many.  Cheers, Florence.
    • Russ H
      Hi Charlie, You sound like you have been having a rough time of it. Coeliac disease can cause a multitude of skin, mouth and throat problems. Mouth ulcers and enamel defects are well known but other oral conditions are also more common in people with coeliac disease: burning tongue, inflamed and swollen tongue, difficulty swallowing, redness and crusting in the mouth corners, and dry mouth to name but some. The link below is for paediatric dentistry but it applies to adults too.  Have you had follow up for you coeliac disease to check that your anti-tTG2 antibodies levels have come down? Are you certain that you not being exposed to significant amounts of gluten? Are you taking a PPI for your Barrett's oesophagus? Signs of changes to the tongue can be caused by nutritional deficiencies, particularly iron, B12 and B9 (folate) deficiency. I would make sure to take a good quality multivitamin every day and make sure to take it with vitamin C containing food - orange juice, broccoli, cabbage etc.  Sebaceous hyperplasia is common in older men and I can't find a link to coeliac disease.   Russ.   Oral Manifestations in Pediatric Patients with Coeliac Disease – A Review Article
    • cristiana
      Hi @Charlie1946 You are very welcome.   I agree wholeheartedly with @knitty kitty:  "I wish doctors would check for nutritional deficiencies and gastrointestinal issues before prescribing antidepressants." I had a type of tingling/sometimes pain in my cheek about 2 years after my diagnosis.  I noticed it after standing in cold wind, affecting  me after the event - for example, the evening after standing outside, I would feel either tingling or stabbing pain in my cheek.   I found using a neck roll seemed to help, reducing caffeine, making sure I was well-hydrated, taking B12 and C vitamins and magnesium.  Then when the lockdowns came and I was using a facemask I realised that this pain was almost entirely eliminated by keeping the wind off my face.  I think looking back I was suffering from a type of nerve pain/damage.  At the time read that coeliacs can suffer from nerve damage caused by nutritional deficiencies and inflammation, and there was hope that as bodywide healing took place, following the adoption of a strict gluten free diet and addressing nutritional deficiencies, recovery was possible.   During this time, I used to spend a lot of time outdoors with my then young children, who would be playing in the park, and I'd be sheltering my face with an upturned coat collar, trying to stay our of the cold wind!  It was during this time a number of people with a condition called Trigeminal Neuralgia came up to me and introduced themselves, which looking back was nothing short of miraculous as I live in a pretty sparsely populated rural community and it is quite a rare condition.   I met a number of non-coeliacs who had suffered with this issue  and all bar one found relief in taking medication like amitriptyline which are type of tricyclic anti-depressant.   They were not depressed, here their doctors had prescribed the drugs as pain killers to address nerve pain, hence I mention here.  Nerve pain caused by shingles is often treated with this type of medication in the UK too, so it is definitely worth bearing in mind if standard pain killers like aspirin aren't working. PS  How to make a neck roll with a towel: https://www.painreliefwellness.com.au/2017/10/18/cervical-neck-roll/#:~:text=1.,Very simple. 
    • Scott Adams
      We just added a ton of new recipes here: https://www.celiac.com/celiac-disease/gluten-free-recipes/gluten-free-dessert-recipes-pastries-cakes-cookies-etc/gluten-free-cookie-recipes/
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.