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Gluten Free Process Or Not?


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One Fryer in the store, each night the oil is dumped, and the fryer is cleaned. The next morning, new oil is added, and the first thing cooked is the corn chips (triangle chips with salsa). After that, no more chips are fried that day. Then the normal frying starts, breaded foods and other items.

This Store (Chilies) has a gluten free printout, french frys are NOT listed as gluten free (cooked all day in common fryer), but the chips are listed as they are fried in a clean fryer with new oil.

Seems to me there is still a change of cross contamination, is this enough to be concerned?


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One Fryer in the store, each night the oil is dumped, and the fryer is cleaned. The next morning, new oil is added, and the first thing cooked is the corn chips (triangle chips with salsa). After that, no more chips are fried that day. Then the normal frying starts, breaded foods and other items.

This Store (Chilies) has a gluten free printout, french frys are NOT listed as gluten free (cooked all day in common fryer), but the chips are listed as they are fried in a clean fryer with new oil.

Seems to me there is still a change of cross contamination, is this enough to be concerned?

I will preface my response by saying that I am not a super sensitive, but it is something that I think would be safe for me (if I could eat corn, that is :D )

Sammyj Apprentice

I have had no problems from it so far.

sariesue Explorer

Chilis serves gluten there will always be a chance of CC. However, assuming the fryer was cleaned and emptied properly that risk should be minimal and most of the risk I would think would be from CC after the chips were fried.

Bubba's Mom Enthusiast

Just a thought...if we can't use colanders that were previously used with gluten pasta because it can't be cleaned thoroughly enough..what about the basket that's used to hold and lift the fried chips? Wouldn't there be a strong possibilty of cc?

cap6 Enthusiast

Just a thought...if we can't use colanders that were previously used with gluten pasta because it can't be cleaned thoroughly enough..what about the basket that's used to hold and lift the fried chips? Wouldn't there be a strong possibilty of cc?

good point. Not something I had ever considered but valid.

shadowicewolf Proficient

eh, the type of food they cook in those isn't like pasta and its love of getting into tight unabletobecleaned spaces.


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eh, the type of food they cook in those isn't like pasta and its love of getting into tight unabletobecleaned spaces.

Agreed. I would eat them, but that's just me.

AE Paul Newbie

While Chili's gets pretty good ratings on allergy and gluten-free accommodations, I would still offer at least a hint of caution using California Pizza Kitchen and Applebee's as examples.

CPK just rescinded their gluten-free menu, recognizing that they didn't know how to handle CC. Applebee's has all kinds of allergen and sensitivity menus, but get some of the absolute worst ratings in our community because the staff is not properly trained on gluten-free, allergies, CC, or even proper order-taking from those of us who need a little understanding during the ordering process.

My fear is that Chili's is basically the same as these others - overly casual sit-down dining with a very high staff turnover rate of young kids.

That said, I rarely eat there and again, Chili's has good community ratings as a whole so far.

Good luck.

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While Chili's gets pretty good ratings on allergy and gluten-free accommodations, I would still offer at least a hint of caution using California Pizza Kitchen and Applebee's as examples.

CPK just rescinded their gluten-free menu, recognizing that they didn't know how to handle CC. Applebee's has all kinds of allergen and sensitivity menus, but get some of the absolute worst ratings in our community because the staff is not properly trained on gluten-free, allergies, CC, or even proper order-taking from those of us who need a little understanding during the ordering process.

My fear is that Chili's is basically the same as these others - overly casual sit-down dining with a very high staff turnover rate of young kids.

That said, I rarely eat there and again, Chili's has good community ratings as a whole so far.

Good luck.

First ...I would NEVER order from CPK!! Too dangerous.

The Chilli's by my house is actually really good. I ordered a chicken dish. The waitress came back and told me that they had recently added chips to the dish. The chef had told her to come out and ask me if I wanted them or not because they made their own chips in the fryer and there may be cc with that. This really impressed me that they would be that aware.

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