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Incredible Irritability While Healing


dani nero

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dani nero Community Regular

Hi all, hope everyone is doing well.

I was wondering if anyone else experiences this while healing from a glutening incident? I used to think that I would become incredibly angry and irritable and depressed right after being glutened (which is usually my first clue or sign to think if I had eating anything that was cc), and then I'd have anxiety and mild depression for three weeks after .. but this time it's different! I'm angry all the time, and it has been two weeks since I ate that darned cc bresaola!

Is this normal, does anyone also stay irritated for the whole healing period, or should I start wondering if there are any other sources of CC?


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Hi all, hope everyone is doing well.

I was wondering if anyone else experiences this while healing from a glutening incident? I used to think that I would become incredibly angry and irritable and depressed right after being glutened (which is usually my first clue or sign to think if I had eating anything that was cc), and then I'd have anxiety and mild depression for three weeks after .. but this time it's different! I'm angry all the time, and it has been two weeks since I ate that darned cc bresaola!

Is this normal, does anyone also stay irritated for the whole healing period, or should I start wondering if there are any other sources of CC?

I've found that dairy and the gums used in dental impression goo give me extreme irribilty.

I think hormones can enter into it too?

dani nero Community Regular

I've found that dairy and the gums used in dental impression goo give me extreme irribilty.

I think hormones can enter into it too?

Might be :-/ I Dunno.. I wasn't having irritability problems before getting glutened and I'm using the same toothpaste. I've tried most of the toothpastes available and am using sensodyne ProNamel now.. There aren't many options left in the stores

cahill Collaborator

Is this normal, does anyone also stay irritated for the whole healing period, or should I start wondering if there are any other sources of CC?

It is normal for me to be irritable while healing from a reaction .

I recently attempted to add back a food to my diet. It got me but good. My reaction was swift and devastating (both physically and emotionally ). The emotional upheaval was staggering, I am still recovering.

IrishHeart Veteran

I feel pretty "off" for a long time after a gluten CC. Nearly 3 weeks last time :(

In addition to the recurrence of severe joint/muscle pain, anxiety, cognitive impairment, & insomnia, I have a major swing in moods. I hate that part the most. :(

I call it the return of the seven dwarves: weepy, cranky, racy, spacey, dopey, angry and achy.

Not my personality at all to be in such a funky mood-- and this is how I know I have been "hit".

Tell yourself you know what it is that is causing it and that you're going to get past it in time.

Hope you feel better soon!

pricklypear1971 Community Regular

In the beginning I found lots of things would set me off...not just gluten. Sugar or MSG or processed foods. I'm not saying these are setting YOU off, I'm just saying that other things may temporarily (or permanently) do what gluten did.

It's tough. I went in the bathroom at work one day and kicked the wall. I ate Rice Works chips and went psychodellic and broke out in a rash. I ate chocolate covered nuts and broke out, and had heart palps.

I won't touch Rice Works with a 10 ft pole now, but chocolate covered nuts are fine:).

Overall, the weirdest of it lasted 3 months or so, and that was after I got a good handle on the triggers.

I would suggest getting your thyroid levels checked at your doctor visit, as well as vitamin levels. Both could cause the depression/irritability/anger.

IrishHeart Veteran

I hadn't thought to mention it, but yes, too much sugar and MSG?

--those mess with me too. Moody, foggy and out of sorts, heart palps, headaches, blech. UGH.

Good advice about thyroid and vit/mineral levels, Prickly. I guess I thought Dani had checked those already?


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This week when I got myself glutened on top of feeling totally mentally checked out I felt like biting the head off anyone or anything that looked at me sideways. Not a good attitude when I'm babysitting an obnoxious one year old but we managed okay without me traumatizing him for the rest of his life.

Marilyn R Community Regular

"I call it the return of the seven dwarves: weepy, cranky, racy, spacey, dopey, angry and achy."

Love it Irish!

I did Angry in a big way before going gluten-free. I think I burnt the anger factor out of me. Weepy returns big time, and Spacey, Dopey and Achy all visit.

:blink:

squirmingitch Veteran

I got angry/irritable too when I got glutened & also when I had the reaction to the Quinoa Dani. Good idea about checking the thyroid especially since it takes so long to get the doc appt. there.

(((HUGS)))

bartfull Rising Star

I haven't gotten my thyroid checked (no insurance, no money), but I had uncontrillable rages and 24/7 weeping for days with vitamin deficiencies. Vitamin B12 was what I suspected, and that would make sense in your case - you got glutened, and until you heal again you aren't absorbing any B12 from your food.

Just a guess.

dani nero Community Regular

I usually only get angry for two or three days after being glutened, but this time.. it's been two weeks and I've been so angry and irritated very frequently. I was so angry today.. I couldn't contain myself. Hubs and I aren't talking to each other now. I feel so depressed. Sorry for whining. It just sucks because we've been planning this weekend for so long and it's ruined :-( and he told me "are you going to ruin this weekend too?".

I don't have other symptoms. I never get tummy aches.. (and I hope I don't offend anyone) but I'm wishing I did, then I'd at least know what was going on. Maybe I'm just an egoistic nut who likes shouting.

I'm not even feeling weak, particularly sleep, or too foggy. I'm just, mad.

I don't eat any sugar. I tried 80% lactose and soy free chocolate three days ago but it set my DH off so I stopped it. I don't know what MSG is. The only other thing I recently added was cashews (a week ago). Could I be reacting to them?

I did start polishing my nails again as well.. but I made sure to wash my hands once I was done.. to make sure anything lose went off..

I haven't been to the doctor yet. Can you believe it? I don't know how long they're gonna let me rot here. They said in four weeks five or six weeks ago, and now they're saying sometime in may. I have a feeling they're gonna say "nothing is wrong with you" anyway. I just know it.

I got my thyroid checked two years ago maybe?

dani nero Community Regular

I haven't gotten my thyroid checked (no insurance, no money), but I had uncontrillable rages and 24/7 weeping for days with vitamin deficiencies. Vitamin B12 was what I suspected, and that would make sense in your case - you got glutened, and until you heal again you aren't absorbing any B12 from your food.

Just a guess.

Now that you mention it, I was crying for no reason since yesterday.

pricklypear1971 Community Regular

I usually only get angry for two or three days after being glutened, but this time.. it's been two weeks and I've been so angry and irritated very frequently. I was so angry today.. I couldn't contain myself. Hubs and I aren't talking to each other now. I feel so depressed. Sorry for whining. It just sucks because we've been planning this weekend for so long and it's ruined :-( and he told me "are you going to ruin this weekend too?".

I don't have other symptoms. I never get tummy aches.. (and I hope I don't offend anyone) but I'm wishing I did, then I'd at least know what was going on. Maybe I'm just an egoistic nut who likes shouting.

I'm not even feeling weak, particularly sleep, or too foggy. I'm just, mad.

I don't eat any sugar. I tried 80% lactose and soy free chocolate three days ago but it set my DH off so I stopped it. I don't know what MSG is. The only other thing I recently added was cashews (a week ago). Could I be reacting to them?

I did start polishing my nails again as well.. but I made sure to wash my hands once I was done.. to make sure anything lose went off..

I haven't been to the doctor yet. Can you believe it? I don't know how long they're gonna let me rot here. They said in four weeks five or six weeks ago, and now they're saying sometime in may. I have a feeling they're gonna say "nothing is wrong with you" anyway. I just know it.

I got my thyroid checked two years ago maybe?

I'm sorry, dani.

I hope this feeling passes for you.

Do you have your lab results from 2 years ago for your thyroid?

Is there any way you can get an independent lab to test your vitamin levels? If you can see deficiencies and substitute accordingly it may help. Low b's, d and iron can do terrible things to your mood, energy.

dani nero Community Regular

I'm sorry, dani.

I hope this feeling passes for you.

Do you have your lab results from 2 years ago for your thyroid?

Is there any way you can get an independent lab to test your vitamin levels? If you can see deficiencies and substitute accordingly it may help. Low b's, d and iron can do terrible things to your mood, energy.

I'll ask for the lab results on Wednesday. We have a short holiday until Tuesday. I think that they also checked B levels and they were normal.

I did try to find private clinics to do some testing for me, specifically a dermatologist to get a DH biopsy, but they couldn't do it for me and told me to take an appointment with a normal public clinic. It might be a different story for simple blood test so I'll try to find one.

dani nero Community Regular

By the way. I went to the pharmacy to get probiotics, and they didn't have any without soy and the pharmacist wasn't open to the idea of custom probiotics. She told me I needed a doctor for that. It seems I'll have to buy them online.

pricklypear1971 Community Regular

I'll ask for the lab results on Wednesday. We have a short holiday until Tuesday. I think that they also checked B levels and they were normal.

I did try to find private clinics to do some testing for me, specifically a dermatologist to get a DH biopsy, but they couldn't do it for me and told me to take an appointment with a normal public clinic. It might be a different story for simple blood test so I'll try to find one.

I hope you're successful one way or the other. Remember, though, your body can be very different now vs. 2 years ago. Though, if you were low then and haven't supplemented I can't imagine it would have improved.

IrishHeart Veteran

DANI, my dear, I am sorry you are struggling so much right now.

I understand totally-- as my first six months gluten-free were

so turbulent and I had already had a horrible 3 years before that.

It is discouraging, but that does not mean you are not getting well.

But one thing I know is, you need to view all this in perspective.

You are healing!!

You will feel better in time, I promise

you need a ((HUG)) --because we care about you-- all of us here in the States!!!

and you need to laugh a little. :)

Here:

"After being married for thirty years, a wife asked her husband

to describe her.

He looked at her for a while, then said, "You're A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K."

She asks ... "What the hell does that mean?"

He said,"Adorable, Beautiful, Cute, Delightful, Elegant,

Foxy, Gorgeous, and Hot".

She smiled happily and said "Oh, that's so lovely.

What about I, J, K?"

He said, "I'm Just Kidding!"

The swelling in his eye is going down and the doctor is fairly optimistic about saving his testicles.

dani nero Community Regular

The swelling in his eye is going down and the doctor is fairly optimistic about saving his testicles.

Hahaha :-) That's exactly what I felt like doing to my hubs!

Thanks for reminding me of what I need to keep in mind: That I'm healing, and thanks for the comforting *Big hug*

You're all in my heart, too! :-)

dani nero Community Regular

Sorry for the delayed response.. just thought I'd leave an update when I started feeling better to skip the whining :-P

I've been gardening as much as I could the past three days in hopes to manage my temper. It didn't really help as I was bursting out from the smallest things ;-( I noticed also that I get extra angry and crazy when I'm hungry, to point of losing all reason! (yikes, best to be kept fed)

I was actually surprised that I managed to do so much! I read that a lot of you get so fatigued that you could barely type? but I managed to dig, pull, push and so on in the garden. It was hard but I did it, and the endorphins lifted my spirit (they were just what I needed!). I didn't get irritated even once today so I'm guessing that whatever was going on might be passing? but my immunity has dropped drastically though.. my gums, lymph nodes, and throat are all so painful, specifically when I eat.

IrishHeart Veteran

Try eating small portions & include protein--throughout the day.

Your blood sugars may be spiking/dipping.

Vit C helps with gum issues.

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