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Reintroduce Gluten

christtheking

By christtheking
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christtheking Contributor
christtheking
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This from York Labs:

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pixiegirl Enthusiast
pixiegirl
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I'm a total newbie here and new to gluten-free as well so I probably shouldn't be answering this, but if you have celiac its not an allergy so that information wouldn't apply, however if you only have a wheat allergy then perhaps it might apply to your situation.

susan

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darlindeb25
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<_< and on the other hand----some times an allergic reaction to something is mild the 1st time and keeps getting worse after each reaction--my son was allergic to pediamyacin--the 1st reaction was mild hives--the 2nd reaction months later was more pronounced hives and the 3rd time and last--he borke out in huge hives that covered his body and i refused to give him that medication ever again--as for us--we all know that we may go months without any gluten and when we do get some---we are sick and not just for a day--sometimes over a week or longer----i dont put any stock in that report--they would have to prove that to me on someone else--not me ;) deb
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kabowman
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I have seen this statement and have wondered the same thing. All my tests for celiac disease came back normal/negative. My allergy tests have shown these are not "true" allergies so I look at them as intolerances. My docs have all said that I will never be able to eat these foods again. Wow that I have figured this all out and feel better.

Right now, I am not hoping for the adding back in to the diet but do plan to try some of the foods after a full year. I still have occasional problems - all due to cross contamination while out or with other people that come into our house and are not as careful as we are.

Also, my reactions have gotten more severe, not less so that leads me to believe the docs just might be right.

-Kate

tarnalberry Community Regular
tarnalberry
Posted

gluten intolerance is not an allergy - the same rules do not apply.

kvogt Rookie
kvogt
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I believe this is generally true for IgG mediated allergies, which is what York tests you for. Gluten sensitivity is predominately IgA mediated. There is also the genetics issue. If you try this, your anatomy may well tell you loud and clear how successful you are. If you are asymptomatic, you won't get the message and may cause yourself a lot of trouble.

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