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I hear you! Gluten free baking is like alchemy, there are so many weird ingredients. You're probably right to stick with simple foods until you get things figured out.

About the lime in your tortillas-- are you sure it is the fruit? It might actually be the mineral kind. That is what is used to treat corn for hominy & grits. It's related to the stuff you put on the lawn, not the fruit. It actually breaks down the husk of the corn, so it might affect its digestibility. Have you tried eating grits? (If you want to try them I'd go for the whole foods kind, definitely not Quaker!)

Leah

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Wow...I did not know this!! I thought lime meant little green citrus things! :lol:

Its in all the tortillas though. With all my problems should I really be eating something that is used to treat the lawn?? :blink:

I never thought of trying grits though...good idea. I'll see if I can find one. I'm pretty much trying to eat everything organic. Not sure if there are any organic grits out there but I'll check at Whole Foods on Monday. Thanks for letting me know this!

Armetta,

You are really lucky to be able to eat the Kinnickinnick....its much better than Ener-G...thats for sure! One of the worst reactions I ever got was from the Glutino flax bread. I think it was just loaded with histamine. :huh: It had dried egg whites, cornstarch and some other things I cant think of right now. I never got an immediate reaction with any breads I've tried except that one. It almost felt anaphylactic. I was hysterical from that incident. My mom remembers it quite well. :ph34r:

Susan...I'm finally gonna do the rock climbing thing. We have a class on Friday...after the class we can climb all we want. I know nothing about this....no experience whatsoever. The Dave will be my partner...dunno if I should feel safe or not. :unsure: He was saying something about they can put some 70 lb. thing on me to even out the weight. :blink: Ummm...no thank you....I dont feel like carrying something that weighs more than my large dog as I'm trying to climb up a rock for the first time in my life. :huh: I may be doing more "clinging" than climbing. :lol:

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I hear you! Gluten free baking is like alchemy, there are so many weird ingredients. You're probably right to stick with simple foods until you get things figured out.

About the lime in your tortillas-- are you sure it is the fruit? It might actually be the mineral kind. That is what is used to treat corn for hominy & grits. It's related to the stuff you put on the lawn, not the fruit. It actually breaks down the husk of the corn, so it might affect its digestibility. Have you tried eating grits? (If you want to try them I'd go for the whole foods kind, definitely not Quaker!)

Leah

LEAH - our Queen of Tarts.......hereby FULLY redeemed in the most profound elemental scientificness and clearly integral to Rachel and the 'villians......

premature post....

HI Andrea!! you're back!

Rachel - - which Ener-G bread are you eating? I've found only two palatable breads so far - their Light Tapioca and the other, from Trader JOe's - Brown Rice Bread sweetened w/ Fruit Juice (and you have to actually squeeze those and make sure they are very soft - got a couple of bad batches and they were like bricks). I LOVE the Ener-G light tapioca - it is like air-fluff white bread, which, strangly enough I NEVER ate in "real life" (only the gnarliest whole grain breads before *sniff*). Toasted w/ butter and honey and it is a small slice of heaven, really.

Rock climbing :rolleyes: .....the weight, if used, would only be when you BELAY The Dave, not when you're climbing, to anchor you down. Most gyms have a piece of webbing in the floor that you can tie into - I"ve never seen the weights. my former climbing partner-slash-boyfriend was a competetive cyclist, solid muscle, 6'5" and 220 pounds - and I weighed 112. He was not the typical build for a climber but we did very well I was always anchored into rocks/trees, if necessary, and we only climbed in a gym once, and I was tied in. What fun! You'll do fine - - remember - - push off with your legs and rely less on arms - - your arms are going to be more tired from belaying Dave than from climbing - - although climbing really blows out your forearms and you may not be typing much the next day.....ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I miss it so much (the outdoor stuff)!

I am off to bed now.....lots of reading and silly British shows on PBS.

'night all....glad I didn't get kicked out.... :ph34r:

Ryan - - hi! Nice to see you today. forgot what I was goign to say to you though.....

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Andrea and Cissi... I seeeee you... YAY!

Susan... my friend... you must see your thread :o:ph34r::lol:

Rachel... all is well again with your scientificness... phew

Queen of hearts... good googly moogly.. you are smart :D

I saw "My" thread, dingbat, the one you have hijacked, again and again.....ladies, I invite you over to that one, it is now to talk about AGING GRACEFULLY - - and some of you are too young to worry about this yet, but you can certainly drop by...gentlemen, I don't know if you should be there or not - - girl talk - - - we'll let you know if we need male input.... ;)

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Rachel,

I agree with your thoughts on bringing this thread back to the scientific, supporting thread is was "in the old days". I too have been guilty...I do plan on going back as I have time to delete the village job lists. Those probably take up 10-20 pages by themselves.

I don't suffer from as much as most of you but like to be here to learn and support everyone. My stuff is in my sig.

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You are of course right that this thread should go back to what it intended-but good googly moogly-we had some laughs along the way. :lol:

Maybe we could continue it in the gab room titled 'Rachelville' ?

:):)

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Rachel, you are absolutely right. We've gone too far afield from the original intent of your omg thread.

Mea culpa!

I've contributed nothing but trivial, silly observations and stories, and I am sorry.

I know nothing that would be of any help to anyone, but I have learned a great deal here, information helpful to me and, more importantly, to my family. For that you have my undying gratitude.

Therefore, in the future, I'll only pop in occasionally to glean information, and to see how everyone is doing.

Love and prayers,

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Wow...I did not know this!! I thought lime meant little green citrus things! :lol:

Its in all the tortillas though. With all my problems should I really be eating something that is used to treat the lawn?? :blink:

I never thought of trying grits though...good idea. I'll see if I can find one. I'm pretty much trying to eat everything organic. Not sure if there are any organic grits out there but I'll check at Whole Foods on Monday. Thanks for letting me know this!

Armetta,

You are really lucky to be able to eat the Kinnickinnick....its much better than Ener-G...thats for sure! One of the worst reactions I ever got was from the Glutino flax bread. I think it was just loaded with histamine. :huh: It had dried egg whites, cornstarch and some other things I cant think of right now. I never got an immediate reaction with any breads I've tried except that one. It almost felt anaphylactic. I was hysterical from that incident. My mom remembers it quite well. :ph34r:

Susan...I'm finally gonna do the rock climbing thing. We have a class on Friday...after the class we can climb all we want. I know nothing about this....no experience whatsoever. The Dave will be my partner...dunno if I should feel safe or not. :unsure: He was saying something about they can put some 70 lb. thing on me to even out the weight. :blink: Ummm...no thank you....I dont feel like carrying something that weighs more than my large dog as I'm trying to climb up a rock for the first time in my life. :huh: I may be doing more "clinging" than climbing. :lol:

Do any of you guys ever eat polenta? It seems really versitile and easy . I have wanted to try it for a while but was avoiding corn. Lately I am back to eating it though- with fingers crossed - no bad reaction. I think I might try polenta and see what I can do withit.

Oh rachel I know you're like me and have found it hard to find a chip or craxker you can tolereate I found trhese blue corn chips they are backed and I have tried them a few times- the first time I thought tey were a definite no but then I tried them again and I think they might be a possibility I will post the name later if you are interested.

Miamia

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I'm eating Ener-G bread now. Is this not the happiest and yet saddest thing both at the same time?? :lol:

Those of you who havent eaten bread in a long time will understand the "happy" part...anyone who has tasted Ener-G bread will know why I'm sad about it. :P

Its really too soon to tell if the bread will do me in...of course in typical "Rachel" fashion...I have eaten the whole loaf in less than 48 hours. :ph34r:

There are lots of good gluten free breads but I'm stuck with this one cuz its basically made out of almost nothing.

The Dave and I were talking about french toast last night. Breakfast food used to be my favorite and I loved the restaurants that would have breakfast available 24 hours. Awesome!! Anyways he dosnt know how to make french toast and asked if I'd make it for him sometime...gluten free of course. I told him I'd make his out of real bread and I'll make the gluten-free stuff for myself. No WAY am I gonna make someones first gluten-free meal out of Ener-G bread. :blink: Holy Cow...they would be traumatized by the words "gluten-free" for life! :lol:

I'll make his out of the big texas toast bread....perfect for french toast (what a lucky guy). I'll make mine out of the cardboard stuff that is "labeled" as bread but looks like styrofoam and tastes like anything but bread. :(

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Yes, I've had the Ener-G bread, lol. I have a loaf of Food For Life Millet Bread in my freezer...don't have it very often, but I do ocassionally make some french toast with it. It's not horrible, lol.

Definately the mold. If I take the time to make homemade juice or smoothies (and in that case I drink a lot more than comes in those little bottles!!), I have no problem at all. Peanut butter causes the same problem. This is, however, an item I can rotate in ... twice a week and I'm okay. My problem was I was drinking it every day.

Thanks! I'll have to explore this further...I've gotten pretty lazy in avoiding the stuff I should be with the mold thing (except haven't been drinking juice, lol), so quite possibly THAT could be the reason I'm itching so much.

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I'm eating Ener-G bread now. Is this not the happiest and yet saddest thing both at the same time?? :lol:

This made me laugh!

Ener-g was the second bread that I tried--after Food For Life! The combination of those two were just about enough to swear me off bread forever :D

Turns out, I needn't have worried, as I'm sensitive to the main ingredients in all breads! :angry:

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This made me laugh!

The fact that she ate it ALL in 48 hours made me laugh. Our Rachelville President is so, so, so Rachel. :lol:

Well, I went through the first part of the day yesterday without the intense itching, but was feeling slightly nauseated and lightheaded which I think was probably from being a little dehydrated...my blood pressure is so low normally and when I get a little dehydrated it really dips LOW. It was after dinner that I started to itch badly...had chicken breast, PEAS (I know, I know), an organic corn totilla, a little apple juice (unsweetened) and mineral water, and mango sorbet which I make from frozen organic mango, agave nectar (about 1 tablespoon) and a little stevia (which I haven't had in 2 weeks).

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The fact that she ate it ALL in 48 hours made me laugh. Our Rachelville President is so, so, so Rachel. :lol:

Well, I went through the first part of the day yesterday without the intense itching, but was feeling slightly nauseated and lightheaded which I think was probably from being a little dehydrated...my blood pressure is so low normally and when I get a little dehydrated it really dips LOW. It was after dinner that I started to itch badly...had chicken breast, PEAS (I know, I know), an organic corn totilla, a little apple juice (unsweetened) and mineral water, and mango sorbet which I make from frozen organic mango, agave nectar (about 1 tablespoon) and a little stevia (which I haven't had in 2 weeks).

Donna-

I personallly have a really strong adverse reaction to stevia- I odn't know if that could be it.

Miamia

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Nikki-uk put this somewhere and it came up on a email alert to me.course can't find it now..

Maybe we could continue it in the gab room titled 'Rachelville' :):)

I like her idea...does anyone else..??

Maybe that will be a place we can continue on sharing health tips from the Rvillle I thread over into the Rachelville II (sub-division) :lol: so we chat and gab in Rville II..who would have 'thunk it could happened' a sub-division"- HA

Hi Karen Darlink :) I hope your feeling better today..we love you and we want you to be with us.

I'd miss my dear friend Karen..we'll all figure this out,,i know we will..

everyone will be happy cause we are in Rachelville..not the realy world

hugs to all esp KAREN

LOVE JUDY

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Still waiting for the progluten reactions from yesterday.....my mom forgot about the flour she coats the pot roast with. She said it was just a little and shouldn't hurt us. :o:(

I don't have long reaction/recovery times like alot of you, but do have a reaction now. Talitha's reactions always seem to be delayed. Micah doesn't complain about tummy troubles or anything most of the time. Of course my daughter is very vocal.

OK......back into the back pages......Don't worry, I'll come out again. :P

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Anyone remember me having problems with lettuce last week? Lettuce of all things....supposed to be healthy right? Anyways again, in typical "Rachel" fashion....I bought more of it. :o

Guess what...same thing happened...I reacted and felt like my head was about to explode. :(

I *thought* it was the Auxigro but now I'm thinking its sulfites. I re-read my "things that contain sulfites" list and packaged salads or convenience salads contain sulfites. I guess I missed this one before...or maybe I forgot...anyways its causing a histamine response so I'm done with the packaged salads. I stopped eating them awhile back because I was feeling bad all the time but I was trying to add them back in. Oh well....I never ate salads before I got sick so I can do without them now...and frankly I'd rather eat ice cream. :D

Ice cream = weight gain.....I cant get that from a salad. There is a method to my madness. :P

Rachel:

I was told that lettuce was one of the hardest foods to digest. Could that make sense to the problems you are having?

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Rachel:

I was told that lettuce was one of the hardest foods to digest. Could that make sense to the problems you are having?

I don't know that I've ever digested lettuce <_<:lol:

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Rachel - - which Ener-G bread are you eating? I've found only two palatable breads so far - their Light Tapioca and the other, from Trader JOe's - Brown Rice Bread sweetened w/ Fruit Juice (and you have to actually squeeze those and make sure they are very soft - got a couple of bad batches and they were like bricks). I LOVE the Ener-G light tapioca - it is like air-fluff white bread, which, strangly enough I NEVER ate in "real life" (only the gnarliest whole grain breads before *sniff*). Toasted w/ butter and honey and it is a small slice of heaven, really.

I looked at the ingredients on all the breads. I'm avoiding brown rice right now because it sometimes bothers me....I read that it contains more histamines than white rice for some reason. Also avoiding tapioca for now....definately nothing sweetened with fruit juice. :(

So what does that leave me with?? The white rice yeast free loaf. The only ingredient is white rice and a couple other things I cant recall...I think one of them may have been styrofoam though. :unsure:

Rock climbing :rolleyes: .....the weight, if used, would only be when you BELAY The Dave, not when you're climbing, to anchor you down. Most gyms have a piece of webbing in the floor that you can tie into - I"ve never seen the weights. my former climbing partner-slash-boyfriend was a competetive cyclist, solid muscle, 6'5" and 220 pounds - and I weighed 112.

Thanks for the lesson... ;)

I seriously have no clue. Belay??? :huh:

Woah....I hope I dont appear completely idiotic to all the other climbers. :ph34r: I will definately need to watch my diet on this day. I probably need all my brain cells to be functioning if I'm gonna be a successful climber. The Dave is very competitive....so am I. :ph34r: I know this is more of a "team" effort but still....I cannot fail. :rolleyes:

Do any of you guys ever eat polenta? It seems really versitile and easy . I have wanted to try it for a while but was avoiding corn. Lately I am back to eating it though- with fingers crossed - no bad reaction. I think I might try polenta and see what I can do withit.

I never tried polenta...what exactly is it??

I think I can have some chips and feel fine but as we all know I havent mastered this yet. I still have to have all of the chips. :rolleyes:

I really think its the sulfites though...they are in nearly all processed foods. Its a build-up...too much sulfites=histamine reaction.

Speaking of histamines. I'm starting my testing for that today. I'm doing a 24 hour urine test and a blood test. I have to save all of my urine from today in a HUGE orange jug. Seriously I dont know why its so big...I probably wont even fill half of it. I'm glad I'm home and doing it on a Sunday. Can you imagine?? What if I had to carry this thing around with me?? :blink:

Tomorrow I'll bring it back to the lab and then they'll draw the blood. I'm so curious about this test. Cant wait to find out. B)

Well, I went through the first part of the day yesterday without the intense itching, but was feeling slightly nauseated and lightheaded which I think was probably from being a little dehydrated...my blood pressure is so low normally and when I get a little dehydrated it really dips LOW.

Donna, are you still wondering about histamines?? I remember when you suspected having problems with chicken awhile back. Chicken and all fresh meats contain "amines". The longer they're around before you eat them the more amines they will develop. I try to get the "freshest" meat possible....I eat it within one day. I dont buy the packaged meat from the grocery store anymore because I noticed sometimes I'd react. This was before I found out about the amines. All of the different "amines" can cause histamine reaction. I buy organic chicken fresh from whole foods. If I'm not gonna eat it within a day I'll freeze it.

Also never eat leftovers. It stresses this on the histamine restricted diet....leftovers will have tons of amines.

Maybe that will be a place we can continue on sharing health tips from the Rvillle I thread over into the Rachelville II (sub-division) :lol: so we chat and gab in Rville II..who would have 'thunk it could happened' a sub-division"- HA

:lol::lol:

R-Ville II.....its a good idea. :)

If one hasnt been started I'll start one now. We can be silly and still have scientificness only the ceientificness wont get lost. LOVE it. :D

Rachel:

I was told that lettuce was one of the hardest foods to digest. Could that make sense to the problems you are having?

I think I digest the lettuce fine. Its not a tummy issue really...its more of an "allergic" reaction that occurs right after I eat it.

I beg to differ Cissi, you have brought "class" into Rachelville.

You are caring and loving and I find myself floating along with your poetic words.. you are a great joy to my life.

I agree Cissie,

Your posts have not been trivial! They have brought great meaning to R-Ville....I loved everyone of your stories! Your words are beautiful....poetic...just as Celia stated. :)

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I never tried polenta...what exactly is it??

I think I can have some chips and feel fine but as we all know I havent mastered this yet. I still have to have all of the chips. :rolleyes:

I really think its the sulfites though...they are in nearly all processed foods. Its a build-up...too much sulfites=histamine reaction.

Can you imagine?? What if I had to carry this thing around with me?? :blink:

Tomorrow I'll bring it back to the lab and then they'll draw the blood. I'm so curious about this test. Cant wait to find out. B)

:lol::lol:

R-Ville II.....its a good idea. :)

If one hasnt been started I'll start one now. We can be silly and still have scientificness only the ceientificness wont get lost. LOVE it. :D

Polenta=something like cornmeal mush but much thicker, comes in a tube or you can make your own. I tried it was and wasn't impressed but doesn't mean you wouldn't like it, if you can eat it.

Chips.....Rachel, we need to work with you on overeating with one food item. This could be a smidgen of the problem....you find a food you can eat, eat tons of it and then when you have it again you have a reaction. :unsure: I know it must be difficult when you don't have much of a variety right now. Hopefully as you heal and can add a few more foods you will be able to eat some of the others in more moderation thereby allowing more foods into your life again. ;)

R-ville II....Celia has already hijacked Susan's thread and turned that into R-ville II. Susan and Celia have both posted that here, within the last page I think, my face is peeling thread.

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R-ville II....Celia has already hijacked Susan's thread and turned that into R-ville II. Susan and Celia have both posted that here, within the last page I think, my face is peeling thread.

Oh, we can only split R'ville into scientificness and nonscientificness, we can't split it into two different suburbs!! :o Where are we going?????

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I looked at the ingredients on all the breads. I'm avoiding brown rice right now because it sometimes bothers me....I read that it contains more histamines than white rice for some reason. Also avoiding tapioca for now....definately nothing sweetened with fruit juice. :(

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Speaking of histamines. I'm starting my testing for that today. I'm doing a 24 hour urine test and a blood test. I have to save all of my urine from today in a HUGE orange jug. Seriously I dont know why its so big...I probably wont even fill half of it. I'm glad I'm home and doing it on a Sunday. Can you imagine?? What if I had to carry this thing around with me?? :blink: Tomorrow I'll bring it back to the lab and then they'll draw the blood. I'm so curious about this test. Cant wait to find out. B)

...

Donna, are you still wondering about histamines?? I remember when you suspected having problems with chicken awhile back. Chicken and all fresh meats contain "amines". The longer they're around before you eat them the more amines they will develop. I try to get the "freshest" meat possible....I eat it within one day. I dont buy the packaged meat from the grocery store anymore because I noticed sometimes I'd react. This was before I found out about the amines. All of the different "amines" can cause histamine reaction. I buy organic chicken fresh from whole foods. If I'm not gonna eat it within a day I'll freeze it.

Also never eat leftovers. It stresses this on the histamine restricted diet....leftovers will have tons of amines.

:o YIkes on the brown rice. The last couple of weeks I've been eating Lundberg brown rice cakes...two a day. I bet that's one culprit right there!

Yes, I am still wondering about the histamines. I buy all my meats from Whole Foods and generally buy them from the meat counter, but the last couple of weeks I've been buying some of the packaged chicken. Bet that's another culprit. I'm still not sure if chicken is a problem, but it could be. I usually divide and freeze my meats the day I buy them, and lately I've been cooking all the meats for my week day lunches on Saturday or Sunday, then freezing them in individual portions--just taking them out the day I need them.

So is the orange pee jug to test for histamines or is that the blood test? Is that from your doctor at HN? I think I will eventually need to get my bewtocks in there to see them. I bet they would be able to help figure this out in my case. Female Dr. P said she thought they could help me with some of this. I emailed the clinic about food allergy testing and she answered me and corresponded by email for a while during the ampulla of vater adventure, lol. :lol:

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY TIMOTHY! And it certainly is a happy one for his parents. Congratulations on a job well done.

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I looked at the ingredients on all the breads. I'm avoiding brown rice right now because it sometimes bothers me....I read that it contains more histamines than white rice for some reason. Also avoiding tapioca for now....definately nothing sweetened with fruit juice. :(

So what does that leave me with?? The white rice yeast free loaf. The only ingredient is white rice and a couple other things I cant recall...I think one of them may have been styrofoam though. :unsure:

Thanks for the lesson... ;)

I seriously have no clue. Belay??? :huh:

Woah....I hope I dont appear completely idiotic to all the other climbers. :ph34r: I will definately need to watch my diet on this day. I probably need all my brain cells to be functioning if I'm gonna be a successful climber. The Dave is very competitive....so am I. :ph34r: I know this is more of a "team" effort but still....I cannot fail. :rolleyes:

I never tried polenta...what exactly is it??

I think I can have some chips and feel fine but as we all know I havent mastered this yet. I still have to have all of the chips. :rolleyes:

I really think its the sulfites though...they are in nearly all processed foods. Its a build-up...too much sulfites=histamine reaction.

Speaking of histamines. I'm starting my testing for that today. I'm doing a 24 hour urine test and a blood test. I have to save all of my urine from today in a HUGE orange jug. Seriously I dont know why its so big...I probably wont even fill half of it. I'm glad I'm home and doing it on a Sunday. Can you imagine?? What if I had to carry this thing around with me?? :blink:

Tomorrow I'll bring it back to the lab and then they'll draw the blood. I'm so curious about this test. Cant wait to find out. B)

Donna, are you still wondering about histamines?? I remember when you suspected having problems with chicken awhile back. Chicken and all fresh meats contain "amines". The longer they're around before you eat them the more amines they will develop. I try to get the "freshest" meat possible....I eat it within one day. I dont buy the packaged meat from the grocery store anymore because I noticed sometimes I'd react. This was before I found out about the amines. All of the different "amines" can cause histamine reaction. I buy organic chicken fresh from whole foods. If I'm not gonna eat it within a day I'll freeze it.

Also never eat leftovers. It stresses this on the histamine restricted diet....leftovers will have tons of amines.

:lol::lol:

R-Ville II.....its a good idea. :)

If one hasnt been started I'll start one now. We can be silly and still have scientificness only the ceientificness wont get lost. LOVE it. :D

I think I digest the lettuce fine. Its not a tummy issue really...its more of an "allergic" reaction that occurs right after I eat it.

I agree Cissie,

Your posts have not been trivial! They have brought great meaning to R-Ville....I loved everyone of your stories! Your words are beautiful....poetic...just as Celia stated. :)

I am having an oh my god moment right now- Ok Rachel I am inh the middle of the same 24 hour pee test you are doing. Its so funny I almost posted about it this morning and than opted not too. Yes the same big orange Jug and everything. The funny thing is when they gave it to me to take home they put it in a bag tha said 24 hour urime specimen and I carried it home not understanding why people kept staring at me. Me and mom are still laughing about it.

Miamia

Oh by the way styrofoam isdefinitly an ingredient in that bread I have had it before!!

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R-ville II....Celia has already hijacked Susan's thread and turned that into R-ville II. Susan and Celia have both posted that here, within the last page I think, my face is peeling thread.

Yeah...I'm a little slow. I thought it was for women only...something about face creams?? :huh:

I figured it out now. Celia clued me in. :lol:

Anyways I figure alot of people (who are as slow as I am) might not go into the thread because of the title. There will definately be no men in R-Ville with a title like that! :lol:

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So is the orange pee jug to test for histamines or is that the blood test? Is that from your doctor at HN? I think I will eventually need to get my bewtocks in there to see them. I bet they would be able to help figure this out in my case. Female Dr. P said she thought they could help me with some of this. I emailed the clinic about food allergy testing and she answered me and corresponded by email for a while during the ampulla of vater adventure, lol. :lol:

Donna, I always react to the rice cakes.....its a quicker reaction then what I'd get from plain brown rice or brown rice cereal. I've been wondering what it is exactly about the cakes that do me in. From what I've read about it when stuff is heated past the boiling point they develop more amines. When foods ripen or ferment they develop more amines. Really ripe bananas will have alot of amines (even not ripe they are considered high). I'm thinking the way the rice cakes are made they probably are heated and develop more amines that way. Since I'm already overloaded I'll react pretty quickly. If I wasnt overloaded I could probably eat the cakes now and then as long as I dont overdo it and reach my threshhold.

The "orange pee jug" (:lol:) and the bloodtest are both for histamines. I asked the doctor at HN if she could order me the test. She wasnt familiar with it but she looked it up, ordered it and gave me the lab slip. On the lab slip there was a bunch of labs to go to for the test. I picked one on Remmington in Sunnyvale. Just went in on Friday and walked out with a huge orange pee jug. :lol:

I am having an oh my god moment right now- Ok Rachel I am inh the middle of the same 24 hour pee test you are doing. Its so funny I almost posted about it this morning and than opted not too. Yes the same big orange Jug and everything. The funny thing is when they gave it to me to take home they put it in a bag tha said 24 hour urime specimen and I carried it home not understanding why people kept staring at me. Me and mom are still laughing about it.

Miamia

Oh by the way styrofoam isdefinitly an ingredient in that bread I have had it before!!

Are you doing the test for histamines? Or is the orange jug universal for all sorts of "pee tests"?? :lol:

Its already 12:30 and I havent even gone yet. The first morning one doesnt count....you're not suppossed to "save" that one. My jug is gonna be so not full. :rolleyes:

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