Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[Clark Bent as Stupor-Man]

Hey everyone...help me, lol. I'm making a spreadsheet of everyone's Igenix results with IgG and IgM separated...I have Bev, and both of Laura's and of course mine and now Chloe's...

Can you all give me a month that you might have posted your results here so I can narrow my search down. I've just spent 25 minutes trying to search "results"...that was not productive.

I posted mine on page 977... here are my results:

IGG first and IGM second

18 kDa - -

22 kDa - -

**23-25 - +++

28 kDa - -

30 kDa - -

**31 kDa - ++

**34 kDa - IND

**39 kDa IND IND

**41 kDa +++ +

45 kDa - +

58 kDa + -

66 kDa - +

73 kDa - -

**83-93 - IND

[Clark Bent as Stupor-Man]

Charlie!!!!

How've you been?????

I'm doing okay, thanks for asking...

the balance symptoms I had upon starting the ABX went away after the first week... but it's been a little rough at times the past 2 weeks with headaches, getting more easily exhausted, and increased brain fog...

I've stripped my diet back down to the basics for a few days, cutting out my "treat" foods like potato chips and tomato sauce... whenever I feel really off for more than a day, I tend to go down to a very basic diet of strictly meats and veggies and then wait to feel decent and lucid for at least a day or 2... I was probably eating too many potato chips anyway, which could have exacerbated any candida symptoms, especially considering the effect that antibiotics also have on candida overgrowth...

I did have my best day of the week today so I think I'm slowly coming out of whatever funk I was in... and I have an appt in 2 weeks with my llmd which will be my 1 month appt on the ABX...

[AndreaB]

I did have my best day of the week today so I think I'm slowly coming out of whatever funk I was in... and I have an appt in 2 weeks with my llmd which will be my 1 month appt on the ABX...

I'm glad you had a good day today. Please keep us posted on how you are doing, we've missed seeing you.

[Rachel--24]

I'm glad you had a good day today. Please keep us posted on how you are doing, we've missed seeing you.

Ditto...dont be a stranger Charlie.

Andrea...more about protein diet for detoxification.

This is from Klinghardt:

Detoxification in short words:

1. goat whey

2. oil schedule

3. diet: low carbohydrates, many proteins (amino acids are needed for transportation of mercury). When diet is changed and minerals are supplemented, detoxification can start.

4. Basis of detoxification is the combination of Chlorella, bear's garlic and Chinese parsley.

It is important to say, that strict vegetarians, who don't eat eggs, will get difficulties at detoxification.

Heres more..

Dr. Klinghardt:

1. In all chronic diseases heavy metals play a role. So please don't ask: May heavy metals play a role at my MS or my Morbus Crohn? The question is answered: heavy metals play a role at all

chronic diseases.

2. Heavy metals lead to chronic infections by fungi, bacteria, mycoplasma, viruses. But it is a big mistake to treat these infections without changing the milieu.

3. We all have neuro toxins in our body. Under these neuro toxins mercury has a special importance, because it prevents detoxification. When mercury is removed, then the other toxins

tumble out. Neuro toxins lead to "Neurotoxine mediated chronic illness".

4. Heavy metals are excreted via liver into the bowels and are resorbed again in the colon (enterohepatic cycle). This cycle must be interrupted. The green algae Chlorella pyrenoidosa is

suitable for this. Beginning with 4 x 5 to 6 g per day, this dose may be reduced after 6 weeks.

5. All fish has heavy metal burden; the higher in food chain, the more its contamination (the shark eats many fish, which have eaten many other fishes, is much more contaminated than the

little fish). Therefore pregnant women should not eat fish or, if they do, then with Chlorella (fish breaded with Chlorella).

6. There is a synergistic effect between different treatments for heavy metal excretion. The combination of Chlorella - bear's garlic - Chinese parsley is after all the basis of heavy metal excretion.

7. Heavy metals disturb the fatty acid metabolism, which can result in neurologic defects. But the nerve system may be "repaired" by certain fats and oils.

And this...

During detoxification infections will be visible, because after dropping the mercury the bacteria can once more grow in the body. Heavy metal load induces weakened immune resistance, and so viruses, bacteria and fungi are not really rejected and are chronically at half sleep. But because of the antibiotic property of mercury can not really grow.

If the mercury is now excreted, then these bacteria and viruses get the chance to grow. Result: there is no heavy metal excretion without infection, including muscle pain and headache.

So this must be what Dr. Amy was talking about with the Lyme causing me more symptoms once I start getting these metals out. Sounds like the Lyme is gonna "wake-up".

[Rachel--24]

Hi Susan, Alison and Judy.

I'm gonna go sit in my spaceship now.

[DingoGirl]

Part 1

OHHHHHH MY LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORD I leave for 1.5 days and it takes me 45 stinkin minutes to catch up, and I"m STILL confused about everything that's going on. oh HARRUMPH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

let's see....what can I even REMEMBER to comment on?

You cats are SO SO funny!!!! I do love being talked about whilst I"m gone, you know.

Lisa - - sorry you're so sick - - take up dear Andrea's wonderful offer and go up there.....she is the MOST nurturing person!!! beautiful soul.

IN - - I can't believe your history and all you've been through! Gorgeous avatar BTW, I like her story (Red Fedora, you are such a CLEVAH girl!!)

I blame Rachel, Susan and Tom.

WHAT? oh now that's just rubbish!!!!

And this is even after making a bit of a fool of myself in an email to Pseu-zee!! hehehehe

But hey - SHE called ME! (Oh dingy u were gonna tell 'em anyway, if u hadn't already!)

WHAT? why you silly, delusional man!!! Clearly your soy-deprived brain has just completely abandoned you........a phone call? what? who? me?

So glad you are feeling so good. This wouldn't have anything to do with a certain phone call would it? No need to answer, I'm glad you two are friends.

You said to put it on the backburner but you brought it up.

Hi Claire! I lived in Montery for 7 years, BIG SUR is the most magical place on earth (as Tom and Bev can also attest to) and I would be really happy to make recommendations for the whole MOnterey Peninsula. How I miss it.

BEV - - - PAJAMA PARTY!!! fabulous idea. I think the boys are welcome, I don't think we will lock them outside, I think they will be our slave-servants and just do all the cooking and make the cosmos for us.

DONNA and PATTI- - senior citizens. Hah, I laugh at you. Dude, I am SO just right there behind you. SCARY!!!! But Rinne gives me courage and hope that aging is such a beautiful thing. Except....no grandchildren for me. *snif* see, that was a problem....I never really wanted children but I DO want grandchildren.

Ahhhh spank-u-berry-much, it's always good to hear personal experience!!

And no Carla - neither will I relate my foolishness nor try soy lecithin anytime soon.

oh *I* bet Dingy here can get him to do it. ha ha ha ha

[DingoGirl]

Part Deux

quote name='tom' date='Jun 14 2007, 08:39 AM' post='315027']

but which of u would surreptitiously unlock said window???

[AndreaB]

Andrea...more about protein diet for detoxification.

So this must be what Dr. Amy was talking about with the Lyme causing me more symptoms once I start getting these metals out. Sounds like the Lyme is gonna "wake-up".

Thanks Rachel. Copied over......that file is getting larger and larger.

I can see why Dr. Amy things the lyme will wake up. Doesn't have much of a fighting chance to go very far right now I suppose.

I've already warned Mitch that I could have some problems next year after removal. Hope not, but I've learned from what you guys are/have gone through.

You cats are SO SO funny!!!! I do love being talked about whilst I"m gone, you know.

Good to see you over here again Susan. We've missed you these last few days.

Love your new avatar. I assume we get to see after tomorrow or shortly thereafter?

[diamondheart]

Rachel, Thanks for the suggestion to e-mail Scott, the better health guy. He e-mailed me back tonight and confirmed that the ART person who I found in town is really good. Wow, that was quick! I'll be calling her as soon as my brain-fogged mind can remember ! I feel so much better having a reference!

Donna and Susan ~ I'll be contacting you when I get closer to coming to San Jose and Monterey. I've been to Nepente's too, but always too late to check out the store. I thought the redwoods were waaaay cooler! We found a hollowed out one to do chants in ~ it was a spiritual experience .

Claire

[AndreaB]

Hei-Dee-Hoe, HERE I am!!! I was never far from my dear ones in Rville. But dang, gotta not leave again for so long. TOO MUCH READING TO DO!!!!!!!

Not safe to leave for too long.......

we never caught ONE SINGLE THING, and oh, do you suppose it might have had to do wtih the fact that we used whatever was around for bait??? (brownies, cheese, chewing gum :lol: )

Off for a bit to see if a certain little boy is ready to go to bed. He didn't wake up from his nap til 5:30 so I don't know if he's really tired or not. That'll teach me to take the children to the playground......even if it was for such a short time......Seth got down a little later than normal.

[AndreaB]

He e-mailed me back tonight and confirmed that the ART person who I found in town is really good. Wow, that was quick! I'll be calling her as soon as my brain-fogged mind can remember ! I feel so much better having a reference!

I'll be looking forward to hearing about that appointment.

[tom]

I'd heard this dingogirl person (c'mon - ya can't trust anyone's gender by online name) could be funny, but it was the end of that last "Part 1" post that 100% convinced me.

I do love being talked about whilst I"m gone, you know.

YOU were *supposed* to NOT be gone! Read your contract next time before u sign it!! (Who signs a legal document w/out reading it all?)

About time u checked in!

Clearly your soy-deprived brain has just completely abandoned you........a phone call? what? who? me?

Pseu-zeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!! Hehe

"soy-deprived"! I'm laughing too much to breathe!

oh *I* bet Dingy here can get him to do it. ha ha ha ha

Ya rrrrrrrIGHT! lmao

Careful now - I've been somewhat adroit at dirty tricks in the past.

Yer killin me girrrrl.

[tabasco32]

Hey guys I was just wondering who is Scott and GIGI? Did they have mercury too?

[Rachel--24]

Hey guys I was just wondering who is Scott and GIGI? Did they have mercury too?

Lisa...they post on a different message board....for Lyme Disease.

Yes, they both had mercury (heavy metal) issues. I think if you asked them they would both say that pretty much everyone with Lyme Disease also has issues with heavy metals.

Likewise, everyone who is mercury toxic also has infections...candida, bacteria, parasites, etc.

Scott lives in my area and we share some of the same Dr.'s.....which is how I came to meet him. He's been involved in learning alot from the Dr.'s and he is now trained for ART....the testing I've talked about alot. He always "assists" the Dr. when she is here so he was also at my appt. last Sunday.

He's just a really nice guy who is still recovering from his own illness but in the process has learned alot and spends a great deal of time helping others.

He has his own website which has alot of info about Lyme, heavy metals, mold, detox and a whole lot of other info.

Open Original Shared Link

Anyways, both Scott and Gigi focused on detox to get better....they both use ART to guide them through treatment and basically have already done the things which I'm just now starting to do.

I do the same type treatments that they've done....see the same type of doctors.... so I learn alot from their experiences.

[Rachel--24]

Rachel, Thanks for the suggestion to e-mail Scott, the better health guy. He e-mailed me back tonight and confirmed that the ART person who I found in town is really good. Wow, that was quick! I'll be calling her as soon as my brain-fogged mind can remember ! I feel so much better having a reference!

Claire...I'm glad it worked out!!

Good luck with your appt. (when you have it)....dont forget to come back and post about it....your first episode of the "ART Files".

Oh yeah...Scott is really good about getting back to people. He's always quick to respond.

[Rachel--24]

Bloody hot here, Rachel would love it.......who needs a sauna? MISERABLE!!!! (yes, she needs a name for that space contraption.....hmmmmmm .......will ponder.....)

Yup...this crazy metallic looking space contraption (which happens to heat up quite nicely ) does need a name. I have nothing.

Anyways....I think the alien baby was pretty happy about the spaceship.....until it started really cooking in there.

Hehe....the alien baby is gonna be history....just you wait and see.

Susan.....you would hate the space thingy....pretty sure you would not last one minute in there.

I....on the other hand LOVED IT!!!! OMG...it was VERY hard to not rachel the heat and the sweat....but for once I showed restraint!!

OMG...I think I actually "Carla'd" something tonight!!

It definately counts because it was something I thoroughly enjoyed..but did NOT go overboard.

[tom]

Yup...this crazy metallic looking space contraption (which happens to heat up quite nicely ) does need a name. I have nothing.

I'll have more but 1st pass =

Millymenium Falcon?

[tom]

Yup...this crazy metallic looking space contraption (which happens to heat up quite nicely ) does need a name. I have nothing.

I'll have more but 1st pass =

Millymenium Falcon?

Or Bert

Hey wait a second wasn't the 1st U.S. manned spaceflight on Mercury One?

Hmmmmmmmmmm

[AndreaB]

OMG...I think I actually "Carla'd" something tonight!!

It definately counts because it was something I thoroughly enjoyed..but did NOT go overboard.

Ssssoooooooooo glad you enjoyed it and even more glad you Carla'd it.

[tabasco32]

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[tabasco32]

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[tabasco32]

Yup...this crazy metallic looking space contraption (which happens to heat up quite nicely ) does need a name. I have nothing.

Anyways....I think the alien baby was pretty happy about the spaceship.....until it started really cooking in there.

Hehe....the alien baby is gonna be history....just you wait and see.

Susan.....you would hate the space thingy....pretty sure you would not last one minute in there.

I....on the other hand LOVED IT!!!! OMG...it was VERY hard to not rachel the heat and the sweat....but for once I showed restraint!!

OMG...I think I actually "Carla'd" something tonight!!

It definately counts because it was something I thoroughly enjoyed..but did NOT go overboard.

Name the spaceship Freddy. UUMmm alien. So the alien and gonna be history?I don't get it but I'M scared whatever that means. We have aliens in us TOO! I KNEW IT. That's what Carla ment when she said that she would be surprised if I only had mercury.

[Rachel--24]

We have aliens in us TOO! I KNEW IT. That's what Carla ment when she said that she would be surprised if I only had mercury.

ROLMAO

I'm already laughing and its not even 6 am yet.

[tom]

OMG...I think I actually "Carla'd" something tonight!!

It definately counts because it was something I thoroughly enjoyed..but did NOT go overboard.

OK I don't want to be a negative nellie, and I *have* misdefined local lingo in Rachelville before, but w/out more details I can't help but question any claim of 'carla-ization'. In fact, at the next council mtg I'll propose that any such claim undergo peer review.

'Cause I *remember* the donut story. And that's a pretty extreme example of restraint. Wasn't it just a single bite per week? ONE QUARTER of one donut? Not just resisting the siren song of multiple donuts (or a box) calling out, but stopping COLD at a singular bite?

I know I couldn't do it. At a minimum I'd go all Adrian Monk and try to "even it out". There's no symmetry in 3/4.

So don't go all Secret Service on me again everyone, but Rachel - details? Hehehehehe

[Mtndog]

Oh yes- I think our main problem may be the fact that we have all been abducted by aliens and are carrying alien babies (guys too...sorry, aliens make no gender preferences!). I swear when this all started happening to me in 2003 I told everyone I thought I was giving birth to an alien baby.

Uhm..4 years is a long gestation period

rachel- so glad you carla'd your sauna. That sounds good (although I'd make about a minute too in the heat- I wish I could tolerate the heat but nope!). I could, however, tolerate a nice redwood hot tub on my back deck surrounded by night blooming jasmine.

Charlie- Glad to hear your coming out of your ugh phase. I thought I was too but yesterday bit rat bums. I suppose that's the nature though....some days are up, some are down.

Which one of you (Rachel I think?) said that The only way through this is through it? I would love to go under it, but no such luck

Rinne- I still can't believe you're a grandmother. Clearly EVERYONE here is young at heart. :wub:

And I must agree with SusieQ that Andrea is indeed a beautiful soul.

I think, either in this thread or start another, we should all make a list of the top 10 things we want to do when we feel better (even if it's as small as racheling all the Bumble Bars, peanut butter, martinis or (gasp) cute waiters ).

I've got #1 secretly planned for October because I turn 40 in November. I want to be well enough by October to go to Ireland for my 40th birthday.