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Apples?!?!


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VydorScope Proficient

Are apples a problem that I should know about? I jsut had 3 smallish red apples for a mid morning snack, its the only thing other then coffee I have had recently, and I feel very sick, nausus, gassy, sleepy, pain, etc. ugh. not funny! Though fresh fruit sposed to be a good thing....


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cgilsing Enthusiast

Hey Vincent,

Sorry you are feeling so bad today! I haven't heard anything about apples in particular, but I know some people have problems with other fruits like strawberrys or grapes....so it's possible. Hey I never heard, what happened with milk? Are you lactose intolerant? Silly question.....but you didn't put milk in your coffee right?

Mango04 Enthusiast

Weren't you the one eating gluten? That could have thrown off your system and caused you to start reacting strangely to all sorts of foods. That's what happens to me.

Or, if they're conventional apples as opposed to organic, they could be full of pesticides, preservatives etc. etc. that may have had an effect on you.

Coffee makes me sick like that too. There's lots of possibilities I guess.

VydorScope Proficient

I have not re-challenged milk yet, but 87.24% sure that its Casien intolernce. But no I did not put any milk in my coffee, been dairy free for ... umm well a while now... forget how long tis been since I ate the Lays Staxx (have dairy CC in them), but at least a week.

Weren't you the one eating gluten? That could have thrown off your system and caused you to start reacting strangely to all sorts of foods. That's what happens to me.

Or, if they're conventional apples as opposed to organic, they could be full of pesticides, preservatives etc. etc. that may have had an effect on you.

Coffee makes me sick like that too. There's lots of possibilities I guess.

Coffee has never bothered me befor, and I drink 3-8 cups a day (depending on if you count acutall mugs, or 8oz quanties). And the apples where just the store (Kroger) brand ones. Have not had gluten in while. In genral not exposed to it cept the challange I did, what 2 weeks ago now? not sure....

cgilsing Enthusiast

It's just an idea, but I wonder if it wasn't the apple itself that bothered you, but maybe a wax or pestiside that they put on it? :unsure:

StrongerToday Enthusiast

I was eating a lot of them too, until one day I realized that if I didn't have my apple - I didn't have any incidents. It's a lot of acid and fiber in one sitting - esp. three of them.

jerseyangel Proficient

I think that there is a lot of fiber in 3 apples, and that coupled with coffee probably did you in. :( Hope you feel better fast!


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lonewolf Collaborator

Try peeling them and eating them that way. A friend all of the sudden started getting sick from apples, but found she could eat them peeled. She doesn't know if it's a pesticide, wax or something in the peel, but she just knows she can't handle it.

coco-loco Rookie

Wow! I know that too much fruit in one go makes me a bit queasy. Apples are known to have a slight laxative effect. You could be reacting to malic acid as has been suggested. I like apples but they irritate the inside of my mouth sometimes. Are you sure there was nothing else in the equation? Fruit doesn't sit well on top of a meal. Recipe for gas for me!

Hope you feel better soon. X

Terrilyn Rookie

I have an apple just about every day but, I make sure I peel it. I just don't trust what may be on the skin no matter how hard it gets scrubbed. I'm new to this disease so right now I'm trying to be very careful with fruits that have skin. I tend to peel everything, except grapes, I just don't eat them right now.

Good Luck

Felidae Enthusiast

Like others have said, try peeling them. Then you'll know if the skin of the apple is bothering you.

mmaccartney Explorer

There was a thread about casein being used in commercially available waxes used on fruits and veggies. Here is the link: Open Original Shared Link Check out that topic, I posted responses from FAN, some FDA links, as well as some information from Whole Foods regarding this topic...

I did find out from FAAN that they have had no reports of allergic reactions to fruits and veggies based on casein being used in the wax, but that doesn't mean it doesn't get used; the casein contamintaed waxes are commerically available, and approved by the US FDA....

I have known people that were allergic to apples...just a thought!

Nancym Enthusiast

I don't know what, if anything, they use to "wax" apples. I just know that ripe fruit off the tree feels waxy but it is natural to the apple. It washes off. Apple peels contain a lot of pectin, if you're sensitive to pectin it could be that you're reacting too.

penguin Community Regular
I think that there is a lot of fiber in 3 apples, and that coupled with coffee probably did you in. :( Hope you feel better fast!

I agree.

Apple Nutrition Facts

(*One medium 2-1/2 inch apple, fresh, raw, with skin)

Calories 81

Carbohydrate 21 grams

Dietary Fiber 4 grams (20% RDA)

Calcium 10 mg

Phosphorus 10 mg

Iron .25 mg

Sodium 0.00 mg

Potassium 159 mg

Vitamin C 8 mg

Vitamin A 73 IU

Folate 4 mcg

So let's say the smallish apple has 3 grams of fiber, that puts you at what? 9 grams of fiber in a sitting? So that's 45% of your daily RDA of fiber, add that to the natural diuretic effects of coffee, and WHAM! That's also a lot of sugar.

Just a thought.

VydorScope Proficient

To answer the question above, yes Im sure there was not other food in teh euqation, I was standard at work and the apples were to help me make it till lunch which was Tynkadiska-somthing-a pasta and Ragu suace... but did not eat that till after this.

Called the apple company (was not Kroger after all...) and they were farily cluesess about the wax, but said they dont THINK anything like "that" would be in the wax. heh. Gee thanks for that information! Glad you know what your putting on my food! grrrrrr

whitball Explorer

I have had problems with apples, but usually the more acidic ones. I used to eat Pink Lady apples all of the time. Since I have gone gluten free, this type of apple causes my mouth to swell and I get sores on my tongue. I have not had any kind of apple since this experience.

KaitiUSA Enthusiast

I have never had a problem with apples and I usually eat organic ones. The response that they gave you about the wax on apples is quite frightening...how are we supposed to eat something that they don't even know what they put into it. I try to eat organic ones because they put less of foreign things on it.

plantime Contributor

I have to agree with Chelsea. I don't have any problems with apples, but I still can only eat one. It is just too much fiber all at once!

VydorScope Proficient

UGH!!!

I only hat 3 or 4 bits of an appl this morning, AND IM NOT EATING ANY MORE!!!!

Now is it the apple, or the coating :(

or did like some dope spill milk on them durring shipping/stokcing???? this is a dif bag!! UGH!

Felidae Enthusiast
Now is it the apple, or the coating :(

Honestly, try peeling it and then you'll know part of the answer.

Susan123 Rookie

Maybe it is the coffee and you don't know it. Too much caffeine causes GI/Diahrea symptoms. I think I read up to 8 cups of 8 ounces a day will make anyone go straight to the bathroom.

VydorScope Proficient
Honestly, try peeling it and then you'll know part of the answer.

Myabe... threw them out alreayd though. Maybe in few days I'll try a dif brand....

Mango04 Enthusiast

Just like anything else, if you eat too much of a specific fruit or veggie, you can develop a temporary intolerance to it. You might have to stay apple-free for a little while before you start eating them again.

But I also agree with the coffee thing...

VydorScope Proficient

Its not the coffee. Its the apple. waht about the appl I dunno, but its defintly the apple.

jerseyangel Proficient

Vincent--as was suggested, I would try your next apple peeled (I eat them that way with a little peanut butter :P ). It was probably too much fiber--and thats mostly all in the peel, anyway. You might also try them cooked--just peeled, sliced apples (Macintosh are best for this) cooked in a little water until soft enough to fall apart. Let cool a bit and add cinnamon. Yummy. BTW--as a side note, I have become intolerant to bananas after eating them every morning for so long. They were a "safe" food for me, but now, they bother me for some reason. I'm not going to try another for maybe 6 months or so and see if they still are bothersome.

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