Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Heat Intolerance And Joint Issues


GottaSki

Recommended Posts

GottaSki Mentor

I'm 3 months gluten-free. Have seen some improvement with bloating/gastro issues...am confident this will continue to improve.

Docs are stumped by my EXTREME heat intolerance...it is like my internal thermostat is broken. Anything over 75 or even lower with humidity and I am cooked! In the Winter I ski all day nearly every weekend, Spring/Summer/Fall early in the morning I can bike 20 miles, walk/hike hills with no problem. After 10am (or when the sun shines earlier) I can't walk around the block! I get extremely red in the face and come close to passing out. Can not sit in the direct sun without overheating and coming close to passing out.

Many, many thyroid panels over the years while looking for answers...always the same result "normal".

Symptoms that I've had for years (worsened each year) are the extreme heat intolerance and severe joint stiffness/pain when I wake or sit/lay down for more than 1/2 hour and unexplained weight gain (my weight seems to have started adjusting since going gluten-free) :)

Anyone that has or had heat and/or joint issues...has gluten-free helped? How long were you gluten-free before improvement?

Thanks!!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Mother of Jibril Enthusiast

Maybe heat-induced anaphylaxis? Flushing and feeling like you're going to pass out is a bad sign... it means your cardio-vascular system is involved.

Here's a note on symptoms of anaphylaxis from the Mayo Clinic:

Open Original Shared Link

You should seriously get that checked out... and either avoid exercise when it's hot out or carry an epipen. Anaphylaxis can be life-threatening.

ps - There does NOT have to be an external allergen (like a food allergy)... in some people, heat alone is enough to cause a reaction.

GottaSki Mentor
Maybe heat-induced anaphylaxis? Flushing and feeling like you're going to pass out is a bad sign... it means your cardio-vascular system is involved.

Here's a note on symptoms of anaphylaxis from the Mayo Clinic:

Open Original Shared Link

You should seriously get that checked out... and either avoid exercise when it's hot out or carry an epipen. Anaphylaxis can be life-threatening.

ps - There does NOT have to be an external allergen (like a food allergy)... in some people, heat alone is enough to cause a reaction.

GottaSki Mentor

Thanks!

That is one possibility none of my docs or research has come up with. I'll read up on it and bring it up at my next appt.

All thoughts on my mysterious symptoms welcome :).

GlutenGuy36 Contributor
Thanks!

That is one possibility none of my docs or research has come up with. I'll read up on it and bring it up at my next appt.

All thoughts on my mysterious symptoms welcome :).

What about a possible yeast problem? It's not uncommon for those with Celiac to have other problems like Candida Albicans. When your digestional tract is damaged it can allow the bad orginisms to proliferate. Candida can cause alot of sensetivities such as: sense of smell( things like chemicals or smoke you cannot tolerate) and can cause the joint pain that gets worse with the heat. I dunno it's just a thought. <Ted>

GottaSki Mentor

Thanks Ted!

Another great thought...just remembered we thought I had yeast problems back in the late 80s -- completely forgot that round of strange symptoms -- I'll read up on that again tonight!

Have a great day!

-Lisa

prisjo Newbie
I'm 3 months gluten-free. Have seen some improvement with bloating/gastro issues...am confident this will continue to improve.

Docs are stumped by my EXTREME heat intolerance...it is like my internal thermostat is broken. Anything over 75 or even lower with humidity and I am cooked! In the Winter I ski all day nearly every weekend, Spring/Summer/Fall early in the morning I can bike 20 miles, walk/hike hills with no problem. After 10am (or when the sun shines earlier) I can't walk around the block! I get extremely red in the face and come close to passing out. Can not sit in the direct sun without overheating and coming close to passing out.

Many, many thyroid panels over the years while looking for answers...always the same result "normal".

Symptoms that I've had for years (worsened each year) are the extreme heat intolerance and severe joint stiffness/pain when I wake or sit/lay down for more than 1/2 hour and unexplained weight gain (my weight seems to have started adjusting since going gluten-free) :)

Anyone that has or had heat and/or joint issues...has gluten-free helped? How long were you gluten-free before improvement?

Thanks!!!

Have they checked your idoine levels. Read up on Idoine def and see if you have more symptoms. could be the thyroid is normal but in the low range which is too low for you. That happened to me and I now take kelp tablets which are loaded with idoine.

P


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



GottaSki Mentor
Have they checked your idoine levels. Read up on Idoine def and see if you have more symptoms. could be the thyroid is normal but in the low range which is too low for you. That happened to me and I now take kelp tablets which are loaded with idoine.

P

Not sure...will check my iodine levels!

Thank you :)

  • 2 weeks later...
DDD Newbie

Have you tried going casein-free too? Both gluten and casein give me hot flashes (I'm 22) and certain types of gluten makes my joints so sore that it feels like what most people describe as fibromyalgia (which is what my grandma suffers from and i have read that fibromyalgia is a long-term effect of celiac disease). Both also trigger UTIs, which is a candida problem for me and it only flares up after dairy and gluten poisoning. Even so much as a splash of butter will get the symptoms going! My mom's first sign that she was glutened is sore joints and fever-like symptoms (she starts roasting).

Also I went gluten-free a year ago but didn't realize all the cross contamination stuff I had to worry about. Or never worried about BBQ sauce or dressings or soy sauce or anything like that. i had no idea that malt beverages like smirnoff ice and mikes hard lemonade had gluten in them! and the cheap liquors! (hey i was in college and i just thought it was a hangover) When I first when Gluten-Free i was at complete rock bottom: i felt like i was crawling out of my skin and was a complete mess psychologically so i didnt even realize all the GI problems i had. the really horrible stuff definitely improved. Then after i graduated college a year later i had more free time on my hands and started reading books: elisabeth hasselbecks the Gluten-Free diet and one called healthier without week. plus i started checking out website and blogs and this message board. now i am super strict and really careful and i am starting to feel 100% better, like my normal self that had been hiding all my life!

what i am trying to say is the time frame is different for everyone since everyone's symptoms are so different. plus, it depends on how strict you are and you begin to realize there are other intolerances too (like for me it's casein and artificial sweeteners. i havent had a headache since i cut out aspertame

  • 7 years later...
maby Newbie
On 6/22/2009 at 6:46 PM, GottaSki said:

I'm 3 months gluten-free. Have seen some improvement with bloating/gastro issues...am confident this will continue to improve.

 

Docs are stumped by my EXTREME heat intolerance...it is like my internal thermostat is broken. Anything over 75 or even lower with humidity and I am cooked! In the Winter I ski all day nearly every weekend, Spring/Summer/Fall early in the morning I can bike 20 miles, walk/hike hills with no problem. After 10am (or when the sun shines earlier) I can't walk around the block! I get extremely red in the face and come close to passing out. Can not sit in the direct sun without overheating and coming close to passing out.

 

Many, many thyroid panels over the years while looking for answers...always the same result "normal".

 

Symptoms that I've had for years (worsened each year) are the extreme heat intolerance and severe joint stiffness/pain when I wake or sit/lay down for more than 1/2 hour and unexplained weight gain (my weight seems to have started adjusting since going gluten-free) :)

 

Anyone that has or had heat and/or joint issues...has gluten-free helped? How long were you gluten-free before improvement?

 

Thanks!!!

 

Hello

 

  I diagnosed myself with gluten sensitivity since all my tests came back negative but I am sensitive to it. I have the same problem as you. I am very sensitive to the heat. Can you explain why to me please. I am lost. 

maby Newbie

I have the same problem with the heat and my face gets so read too. All my tests normal too.

cyclinglady Grand Master
9 hours ago, maby said:

I have the same problem with the heat and my face gets so read too. All my tests normal too.

In case Gotta Ski does not see this, I think she found out that she had Mast Cell Activation Disorder or Syndrome.  I hope this helps! 

GottaSki Mentor
On July 8, 2016 at 0:23 PM, maby said:

I have the same problem with the heat and my face gets so read too. All my tests normal too.

Hi Maby!

It was a very long road after celiac diagnosis, but we have learned conclusively that we have too many mast cells in the mucosal lining of the small intestine which is responsible for non-responsive celiac disease and many autoimmune and allergic type symptoms.

Other things can cause heat intolerance...be sure your thyroid has been correctly evaluated.

Gemini Experienced
14 hours ago, GottaSki said:

Hi Maby!

It was a very long road after celiac diagnosis, but we have learned conclusively that we have too many mast cells in the mucosal lining of the small intestine which is responsible for non-responsive celiac disease and many autoimmune and allergic type symptoms.

Other things can cause heat intolerance...be sure your thyroid has been correctly evaluated.

GottaSki......baby!......so lovely to see you on here!  :D  I have a question for you because you are such an expert on this.  The allergic type symptoms, mainly hives, can be caused by too many mast cells in the small intestine?  Do you have to have many allergic symptoms and feel bad or can it just be 1 symptom but, overall,  you feel fine?

Beverage Proficient

I have had similar experience...thyroid was a little low (TSH normal but T3 was a little low).  I could not tolerate any prescription for it or iodine/iodide supplementation, broke out in hives.  On my own, I found that Ashwagandha worked wonders to even me out. Stabilized blood pressure, and ups and downs throughout the day. Worth a try, it's relatively inexpensive. I take 1 capsule 3x a day.  Naturopath liked the Ashwagandha idea, also suggested Selenium.  Good luck.

Gemini Experienced
17 hours ago, Beverage said:

I have had similar experience...thyroid was a little low (TSH normal but T3 was a little low).  I could not tolerate any prescription for it or iodine/iodide supplementation, broke out in hives.  On my own, I found that Ashwagandha worked wonders to even me out. Stabilized blood pressure, and ups and downs throughout the day. Worth a try, it's relatively inexpensive. I take 1 capsule 3x a day.  Naturopath liked the Ashwagandha idea, also suggested Selenium.  Good luck.

beverage.......I have Hashi's thyroid disease and have been on thyroid hormone for years and tolerate it just fine.  It's funny that you mention Ashwaganda because my thyroid doc gave me some to try for some of the symptoms I had and it was a disaster.  If you read the particulars of it, it can be a GI irritant and it was for me.  Every time I take it, I throw it back up within an hour.  Makes me violently ill. I also had that experience with other herbs so now?  I will not take anything with herbs in it because they just don't agree with me.  I don't know why, other than that they can be a GI irritant.  I do know people who love the stuff and use it without issue but I'm done with it.  :blink:

  • 2 weeks later...
Beverage Proficient

Funny you mention it, but I was having very very slight acid reflux recently, which had completely cleared up after going gluten free.  I backed off the ashwagandha from 3 per day to 2 and it's all good again ... Perfect example of trying anything new ... go slow, start at lowest dose as possible, gradually try more to recommended dose, then back off if too much.  LISTEN TO YOUR BODY!!!  Thanks, Gemini!

Gemini Experienced
13 minutes ago, Beverage said:

Funny you mention it, but I was having very very slight acid reflux recently, which had completely cleared up after going gluten free.  I backed off the ashwagandha from 3 per day to 2 and it's all good again ... Perfect example of trying anything new ... go slow, start at lowest dose as possible, gradually try more to recommended dose, then back off if too much.  LISTEN TO YOUR BODY!!!  Thanks, Gemini!

Glad I helped you indirectly!  I always tell people what happened to me because herbs are highly used today but they do not agree with everyone.  I could not understand how I could have gotten so violently ill from them but in hindsight, that is my reaction to anything I ingest that my body just doesn't like.  I am a puker.......Ha, Ha!  :lol:

 

  • 1 month later...
GottaSki Mentor
On July 14, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Gemini said:

GottaSki......baby!......so lovely to see you on here!  :D  I have a question for you because you are such an expert on this.  The allergic type symptoms, mainly hives, can be caused by too many mast cells in the small intestine?  Do you have to have many allergic symptoms and feel bad or can it just be 1 symptom but, overall,  you feel fine?

So sorry Gem!  Just saw this...don't log on much any more.

I do know folks with primary hives and other allergic type symptoms without any IgE allergies.  If these present in someone with celiac, NCGS or other gastro symptoms, I would highly suggest proper mast cell staining.  This can be done from former endoscopic biopsies.  Unfortunately, finding a gastro willing to order these tests remains tough.  Some immunologists are starting to.

Until mast cell staining becomes commonplace, I don't see how we can prove that too many mast cells within the small intestine are responsible for just one symptom, but I do believe it possible.  After all...I didn't become unable to function until nearly four decades of living life making adjustments as each symptom appeared.

Hugs to you and all my silly pals, Ski

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,553
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Jennifer CCC
    Newest Member
    Jennifer CCC
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      Your post demonstrates the profound frustration and isolation that so many in the Celiac community feel, and I want to thank you for channeling that experience into advocacy. The medical gaslighting you endured for decades is an unacceptable and, sadly, a common story, and the fact that you now have to "school" your own GI specialist speaks volumes about the critical lack of consistent and updated education. Your idea to make Celiac Disease a reportable condition to public health authorities is a compelling and strategic one. This single action would force the system to formally acknowledge the prevalence and seriousness of the disease, creating a concrete dataset that could drive better research funding, shape medical school curricula, and validate the patient experience in a way that individual stories alone often cannot. It is an uphill battle, but contacting representatives, as you have done with Adam Gray, is exactly how change begins. By framing it as a public health necessity—a matter of patient safety and protection from misdiagnosis and neglect—you are building a powerful case. Your voice and your perseverance, forged through thirty years of struggle, are exactly what this community needs to ensure that no one else has to fight so hard just to be believed and properly cared for.
    • Scott Adams
      I had no idea there is a "Louisville" in Colorado!😉 I thought it was a typo because I always think of the Kentucky city--but good luck!
    • Scott Adams
      Navigating medication safety with Celiac disease can be incredibly stressful, especially when dealing with asthma and severe allergies on top of it. While I don't have personal experience with the HealthA2Z brand of cetirizine, your caution is absolutely warranted. The inactive ingredients in pills, known as excipients, are often where gluten can be hidden, and since the FDA does not require gluten-free labeling for prescription or over-the-counter drugs, the manufacturer's word is essential. The fact that you cannot get a clear answer from Allegiant Health is a significant red flag; a company that is confident its product is gluten-free will typically have a customer service protocol to answer that exact question. In situations like this, the safest course of action is to consider this product "guilty until proven innocent" and avoid it. A better alternative would be to ask your pharmacist or doctor to help you identify a major national brand of cetirizine (like Zyrtec) whose manufacturer has a verified, publicly stated gluten-free policy for that specific medication. It's not worth the risk to your health when reliable, verifiable options are almost certainly available to you. You can search this site for USA prescriptions medications, but will need to know the manufacturer/maker if there is more than one, especially if you use a generic version of the medication: To see the ingredients you will need to click on the correct version of the medication and maker in the results, then scroll down to "Ingredients and Appearance" and click it, and then look at "Inactive Ingredients," as any gluten ingredients would likely appear there, rather than in the Active Ingredients area. https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/   
    • Scott Adams
      What you're describing is indeed familiar to many in the Celiac community, especially in the early stages of healing. When the intestinal villi are damaged from Celiac disease, they struggle to properly digest and absorb fats, a condition known as bile acid malabsorption. This can cause exactly the kind of cramping and spasms you're seeing, as undigested fats can irritate the sensitive gut lining. It is highly plausible that her reactions to dairy and eggs are linked to their higher fat content rather than the proteins, especially since she tolerates lean chicken breast. The great news is that for many, this does improve with time. As her gut continues to heal on a strict gluten-free diet, her ability to produce the necessary enzymes and bile to break down fats should gradually return, allowing her to slowly tolerate a wider variety of foods. It's a slow process of healing, but your careful approach of focusing on low-fat, nutrient-dense foods like seeds and avocado is providing her system the best possible environment to recover. Many people with celiac disease, especially those who are in the 0-2 year range of their recovery, have additional food intolerance issues which could be temporary. To figure this out you may need to keep a food diary and do an elimination diet over a few months. Some common food intolerance issues are dairy/casein, eggs, corn, oats, and soy. The good news is that after your gut heals (for most people who are 100% gluten-free this will take several months to two years) you may be able to slowly add some these items back into your diet after the damaged villi heal. This article may be helpful: Thank you for sharing your story—it's a valuable insight for other parents navigating similar challenges.
    • Beverage
      I had a very rough month after diagnosis. No exaggeration, lost so much inflammatory weight, I looked like a bag of bones, underneath i had been literally starving to death. I did start feeling noticeably better after a month of very strict control of my kitchen and home. What are you eating for breakfast and lunch? I ignored my doc and ate oats, yes they were gluten free, but some brands are at the higher end of gluten free. Lots of celics can eat Bob's Red Mill gluten-free oats, but not me. I can now eat them, but they have to be grown and processed according to the "purity protocol" methods. I mail order them, Montana Gluten-Free brand. A food and symptoms and activities log can be helpful in tracking down issues. You might be totally aware, but I have to mention about the risk of airborne gluten. As the doc that diagnosed me warned . . Remember eyes, ears, nose, and mouth all lead to your stomach and intestines.  Are you getting any cross contamination? Airborne gluten? Any pets eating gluten (they eat it, lick themselves, you pet them...)? Any house remodeling? We live in an older home, always fixing something. I've gotten glutened from the dust from cutting into plaster walls, possibly also plywood (glues). The suggestions by many here on vitamin supplements also really helped me. I had some lingering allergies and asthma, which are now 99% gone. I was taking Albuterol inhaler every hour just to breathe, but thiamine in form of benfotiamine kicked that down to 1-2 times a day within a few days of starting it. Also, since cutting out inflammatory seed oils (canola, sunflower, grapeseed, etc) and cooking with real olive oil, avocado oil, ghee, and coconut oil, I have noticed even greater improvement overall and haven't used the inhaler in months! It takes time to weed out everything in your life that contains gluten, and it takes awhile to heal and rebuild your health. At first it's mentally exhausting, overwhelming, even obsessive, but it gets better and second nature.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.