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Meat Intolerance?

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hi guys, just wanted to get your feelings on this...the last couple times I had meat, a hamburger and then a pork chop I was on the floor in terrible pain for hours. mentioned this to my allergist yesterday he said it could also be an intolerance to all the stuff the inject in meat...he sent me for the RAST tests but said he can't test for that because there are just too many...I did buy some hamburger at whole foods and did not get the severe pains from eating their meat

just curious if anyone else has meat problems

thanks

Betty


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YES!! I can have organic "clean" meats with no problems, but regular meats give me food poisoning symptoms... I am allergic to certain antibiotics and hormones that are injected in the meats. I notice it more in chicken and turkey, but pork and beef also set me off if it's not "clean"...

Buy all your meat at Whole Foods if you can... it's worth the extra price believe me! My husband says he likes the flavor of the "clean" meats over the regular grocery store meats...

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I had an allergic reaction a couple weeks ago to something I ate, which I have pretty much narrowed down to a batch of cashews which may have gone bad or the ground beef, which seems to be more likely. I'm allergic to penicillin, augmentin, amoxicillin, etc. and the reaction I had a few weeks back was nearly identical to the reaction I had to augmentin as a kid. I'm strictly buying organic meats for the time being. In addition to Whole Foods, they also have an organic meats section at Wegmans if there are any by you.


- Charlie

- gluten free since January, 2006

- multiple food intolerances temporarily from leaky gut and candida

- positive test for lyme disease - April, 2007

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nini, your right, the hamburger I bought did taste cleaner..I thought it was just me..my hubby said he didn't notice.

the stomach pain from the regular meat was sooo bad I thought I would die, someone said it may be my gallbladder, but I had a CT scan and was told its fine...thanks for the reply, sorry your having trouble with meat too, but you've helped me because I was getting stressed out that maybe it is my gallbladder and the test was wrong.. I don't need more things to stress out about lol

thanks clark, we must have been posting at the same time. i'm eating more fish, but will buy meats at whole foods when I want them, they're very high priced


~Betty

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Would it be possible for you to look into a local farm? We have been ordering from a local farm and it is so much easier having to make a trip to the freezer for a dinner choice. We have found it is cheaper too. Cheaper than buying it from chain grocery market. We have been lucky to have found organic farmers and since they are sharing the meat they don't want antibiotics in their meat either.

Laura


Michigan

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I can only tolerate chicken from Whole Foods or Wegmans. There's something in the regular brands that give me cramps and D.


Patti

"Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans"

"When people show you who they are, believe them"--Maya Angelou

"Bloom where you are planted"--Bev

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i've had the same thing with regular meat...to the point I went vegitarian... then had my gall bladder removed... Now I only buy from whole foods or we have a place called Central Market, they both have totally organic "clean meat". My whole family likes the flavor better of all the meat, but especially the chicken! I like using the "clean" meat for my kids too. I don't want them getting all that junk in them!!!! :P

Once again, it's nice to know I'm not the only one........

Lollie


tests inconclusive, diet conclusive January 2006

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Yes! I forgot to mention that the taste of the 'clean' chicken is better. More delicate, but a nice, chickeny taste. There is definately a difference.


Patti

"Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans"

"When people show you who they are, believe them"--Maya Angelou

"Bloom where you are planted"--Bev

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I'm game. What is Whole Foods ? marcia


Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)

August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...

July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)

Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)

September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

May 1, 2008 - Began salt loading for OI/NMH - noticed immediately muscle weakness was gone. I was sodium deficient but my labs don't reflect it. Still working on OI and PEM.

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I only eat organic unprocessed meats. I also only eat wild fish....nothing farmed. Everything else is full of antibiotics and who knows what else. Its definately not good for those who have delicate digestive systems already.


Rachel

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I'm game. What is Whole Foods ? marcia

Whole Foods is a grocery chain that specializes in orgainic or natural foods. I tend to think that they specialize in foods people would need if having sllergies. Like gluten-free mixes and food, non-egg, non-dairy, ect...

They are really good!!

-Lollie


tests inconclusive, diet conclusive January 2006

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Guest nini

we had some friends that used to live here that would go buy a whole cow from a organic farmer... we went in with them and several other families to buy the meat... it was great, lasted a long time too. But since our friends moved away I no longer have the connection! So, I get the meats either from Whole Foods or Publix... Yes Publix even carries clean meats! (it's a small section in the meat dept. and not all Publix's have them but ask!) I've noticed that even Kroger is starting to carry some clean beef...

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great imput everyone thanks

laura, have you ever tried "regular" meat since you had your gall bladder removed?

I just keep wondering if thats part of my problem, I did have a CT scan and ultra sound, was told its ok, but then I have days like today when I have burning type pain on my right side and groin..can't figure out why, somedays its real bad then other days nothing..driving me crazy and to be honest causing anxiety


~Betty

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thanks nini..I know its been checked, but I just keep thinking its the gall bladder..guess because the pains on the right...thats what stress does, logic can go out the window :huh:


~Betty

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I browed through this thread so if I miss something, please excuse me.

Since going gluten-free, my body does not crave red meat. Only on a few of the the occations that I have indulded it, I was not feeling the need to consume very much. I eat alot of seafood and too many carb based foods.

I think that you have to listen to your body and your body craves certain things, and it will tell you.

Beef to me seems hard to digest. I am a firm believer, that your body tells you what it needs, with help from good balanced diet.

L


Lisa

Gluten Free - August 15, 2004

"Not all who wander are lost" - JRR Tolkien

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I've been wanting to make a topic like this for some time, but just haven't gotten around to it...thanks!!

YES, I have problems with all kinds of meats.

Chicken gives me an upset stomach, with some pain. It takes my appetite away for about 12-18 hours, I am not hungry, my digestive system seems like it is plugged up and stopped. This always happens with chicken

Pork is hit or miss. Sometimes it gives me symptoms akin to food poisoning, sometimes it goes through without issue.

Beef is hit or miss also. Symptoms are very gassy, and abdominal pain. Also, plugged up symptoms and lack of hunger like chicken. One time I had a package of 4 filet mignon from Market Day. 2 went through just fine, 2 gave me problems. I called the company, they are not organic, however they are 100% plain, no injection, no flavorings...

I have been speculating that my system needs time to heal before I try meat again, but I am just not sure. It doesn't seem like a lot of people have issues with meat along with celiac and lactose intolerance. I also wonder if my digestive system is just simply shutting down and soon I'll be drinking protein drinks only....I've had my gall bladder checked, liver checked, jsut about everything checked and the signs ONLY point towards Celiac, except for the issue with Meat.

I will try some Organic meat and see what happens!!!!

BTW: I had the rast tests, but I showed absolutely no allergies whatsoever!!!!!


Michael J. MacCartney

gluten-free 2005-June-24 Dairy free 2005-July-26

gluten / casein intolerant

HLA-DQ 2,3 (Subtype 2,7)

Diagnosed Celiac 2006-April-24

Father of:

Michael II HLA-DQ 2,1 (Subtype 2,6) - Allergic to Peanuts, tree nuts, eggs, and milk

William HLA-DQ 2,1 (Subtype 2,5) - Allergy free

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I had my gall bladder out 3 years ago when all the intense stomach pains became constant. My gall bladder funtion test that showed it was only funtioning at 11 %. Is that the same as a CT scan ? Having it out did nothing for the stomach cramps, but it was one less thing I had to wonder about.

I saw where someone said Publix has clean meats. I have a Publix near me, but what should I be looking for specifically? Purdue chicken says it is all natural, does that count ? marcia


Jan 1990 - Dx CFS/ME/FM (URI's, Ataxia, myoclonus, orthostatic hypotension, insomnia, brain fog, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat... ) Completely Disabled (housebound and bedridden at times)

2004 - Digestive pain all the time.

May 2004 - Hiatal hernia, erosive gastritis, gastroparesis (endoscopy)

August 2004 - Colon polyps, diverticulitus, internal hemorrhoids (colonoscopy)

No relief from Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix, Zelnorm, Miralax, Imodium, Lomotil ...

July 2005 - GP recommended WFDFSFEFCF + vegan (Also, anything that hurts free)

Immediately stopped needing naps and digestive pain reduced.

Sept 2005 - GFDFCFSFEF + chemical free - Immediately stopped feeling jittery / buzzing and digestive issues were much better.

June 2006 - Dx B12 and iron deficient. Started B12 injections and using cast iron pan.

August 2006 - MYOCLONUS GONE. (off Klonopin)

September 2006 - ATAXIA, INSOMNIA and Feeling like the floor was moving under my feet gone.

June 19, 2007 - Positive DQ2, Dx Celiac

October 2007 - Sleeping like a baby, waking up with energy, but still having fatigue/stamina issues

Nov 2007 - Started Paleo diet for chronic hypoglycemia

April 2008 - GTT normal. I'm no longer hypoglycemic. Started Low oxalate diet for kidney stones.

May 1, 2008 - Began salt loading for OI/NMH - noticed immediately muscle weakness was gone. I was sodium deficient but my labs don't reflect it. Still working on OI and PEM.

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My husband can't handle much meat either, especially red meat and pork. Chicken and fish seem to be the easiest. I'll have to try the organic meats and see if that helps. He can't handle hot dogs at all, I figured it must have something to do with all the processing and other ingredients. He also had his gallbladder out last August before he was dx with Celiac. His ultrasound and CT scan were both normal but the doctor said he wanted a HIDA Scan to check the functioning of the gallbladder. His was functioning at 9% and they consider anything over 35% as normal. Just because they don't see any stones or sludge on the ultrasound or ct scan doesn't mean the gallbladder is functioning.

Jennifer

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Betty, Michael-

Meat is one of the less allergic of foods... So I would be inclined to think your issues may stem from something in or on the meat. Are you preparing them a certain way? That being said, certain meats can cause GI issues in certain folks. And not all foods which cause bodily symptoms show up on a food allergy or intolerance test. Case in point--I can not eat turkey. It gives me incredible abdominal pains. I think of it as more of a functional digestive issue with it, vs an allergy. I do think as mentioned here, its worth a try to ck out the natural meats and see if symptoms persist. Just some thoughts for you both....


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Jen

Indianapolis, IN

gluten-free since Feb 2005

dairy-free

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Guest nini
I had my gall bladder out 3 years ago when all the intense stomach pains became constant. My gall bladder funtion test that showed it was only funtioning at 11 %. Is that the same as a CT scan ? Having it out did nothing for the stomach cramps, but it was one less thing I had to wonder about.

I saw where someone said Publix has clean meats. I have a Publix near me, but what should I be looking for specifically? Purdue chicken says it is all natural, does that count ? marcia

Perdue Chickens are minimally processed, but they are not the same as Organic "clean" meats...

The Publix I go to carries Maveric Ranch Beef and Pork, and Springer Mountain Farms Chicken

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the one time I had the organic hamburger from whole foods I was pretty much ok..fish and chicken seem to be ok with me too..it must be all the crap they inject into the meats.

for years, before celiac disease if I ate turkey at thanksgiving I was sick to my stomach even throwing up..a few years ago I ordered a fresh, all natural turkey, I've never had a problem since


~Betty

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