Jump to content

  • You are not alone. Join Celiac.com for trusted gluten-free answers and forum support.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

This May Be A Stupid Question

ebrbetty

By ebrbetty
in Coping with Celiac Disease

Recommended Posts

ebrbetty Rising Star
ebrbetty
Posted

most of us are lactose intolerant because of the damage to the villi...my Dr told me its ok to have dairy if I take a lactose pill. I do eat a little dairy, mostly Kraft Cheese [lactose free] and once in awhile I have Romano but if the reason I can't tolerate dairy is because of the damage to my stomach am I keeping myself from healing or cont. to cause more damage when I eat it?

its the gluten that did the damage..so I guess its ok?????

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Lisa Mentor
Lisa
Posted

If lactose causes you problems, don't go there. If you have damage to your villi, it will take quite some time to heal. It has taken me almost 6 months to start the healing process and to know when I am glutened or just healing.

I am just now beginning to know the difference. Hope this will be helpful. Be patient

I am not lactose intollerent and don't feel that I am in the minority.

Know your body and respond to what you react to.

Lisa

Lisa Mentor
Lisa
Posted

PS: There are no stupid questions here. :)

lovegrov Collaborator
lovegrov
Posted

I agree about no stupid questions. I don't think the majority of people with celiac are lactose intolerant, but if you are, lay off it for a while. Most people who ARE intolerant solely because of celiac can eventually tolerate dairy again. Not all, but many.

richard

ebrbetty Rising Star
ebrbetty
Posted
  • Author

thank you both

lisa, do you mean it took 6 months to start feeling better? I've been gluten-free about 2 months and get so upset that my belly still hurts everyday, better though

lovegrov Collaborator
lovegrov
Posted

Everybody is so different. I never had the hurting belly and rarely had the diarrhea, but I was extremely anemic and was basically dying of malnutrition. It was 10 weeks before I had the energy to return to work at a desk job and months before I was close to "normal."

richard

nettiebeads Apprentice
nettiebeads
Posted

No, the diary you ingest isn't damaging your intestines. It's your body's reaction to gluten that does it. I was in the normal catagory of celiac (I think I just made that up) anyhow, after your villi heal, they will start to produce the lactic acid needed to digest diary. But I think it's very individualistic as to how much healing and how long it takes and how much diary you'll be able to tolerate afterwards. I cut out dairy for 3 months, then tried it, still had a little problem with it, but not the severe stomach cramps like before. I still don't eat as much of it as I used to, but when I do ingest diary, I'm fine. (Can't live w/o Blue Bunny ice cream)

Annette

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Lisa Mentor
Lisa
Posted

I do agree with richard, which I usually do, everyone is different.

I only had the sharp, knife pains before diog., after going gluten free (or as best as I was able.), I had the D issue. It was months before I would go out of town. Living in a very small town, sometimes I could not make it to the Post Office. Worse yet, standing on my back porch, the bathroom was 20 seconds away, I got there in 25 seconds. Celiac can be a very humbling experience. I have thrown out 2 pairs of my favorite jeans and two of the best lipsticks that I did not have the will to retrieve.

This is the best week that I have had in a long time. I am getting the feel for this. I really don't miss much. I didn't like bread, pizza, beet, pasta. I think that my body was always telling me something.'

So the lesson to this story is to, always listen to your body. It will tell you what it needs.

Be patient, and diligent.

Hope th is will be helpful. - Lisa

ebrbetty Rising Star
ebrbetty
Posted
  • Author

thanks again guys.. :D

penguin Community Regular
penguin
Posted

The reason most celiacs are lactose intolerant is because the villi are flattened, and the villi produce lactase, which is the enzyme that breaks down lactose.

Lactaid pills (and milk) are full of lactase to help you digest the lactose. If it bugs you, don't eat it.

ebrbetty Rising Star
ebrbetty
Posted
  • Author

well I knew that villi produce lactase and that they get damaged from celiac disease I was just wondering if eating dairy continues to damage the villi or should I say keep it from healing.

sorry if my question bugged you..was just curious if eating it will do more damage

penguin Community Regular
penguin
Posted
well I knew that villi produce lactase and that they get damaged from celiac disease I was just wondering if eating dairy continues to damage the villi or should I say keep it from healing.

sorry if my question bugged you..was just curious if eating it will do more damage

Sorry if I misinterpreted your quuestion, the saltines made me pretty stoned

ebrbetty Rising Star
ebrbetty
Posted
  • Author

no problem...you just seemed a bit upset by my question

have a great night :D

penguin Community Regular
penguin
Posted
no problem...you just seemed a bit upset by my question

have a great night :D

Not bugged, upset, or otherwise bothered by your question. :lol::lol:

It's just that all of my wit has gone to my tummy to try to digest my stupidity :blink:

jerseyangel Proficient
jerseyangel
Posted

Betty, The way I understand it is, when we have damaged villi, we can not digest the lactose in the milk or dairy products. I don't believe that consuming the dairy will continue to harm the villi or impede healing. I think it's more a matter of stopping it for a while to give the system a chance to heal and settle down a bit, and then if you can tolerate it, it's ok. If it's a lactose problem, there is no resulting damage.

ebrbetty Rising Star
ebrbetty
Posted
  • Author

Chelsea I hope your belly feels better very soon!!

patti, thanks, thats what I wanted to know..as I said I eat a little dairy and the lactose pills I got from England work great. I just didn't want to mess myself up more than I already am lol

loraleena Contributor
loraleena
Posted

What many people don't know is that a lot of people are lactose intolerant due to the pasterization and homogenization of dairy. This kill all the enzymes we need to digest it. 50 years ago when dairy was not pasterized lactose intolerance was almost unheard of. Please go on the net and read about the benefits of raw dairy. I eat only raw cheese with no problems. But give me regular dairy and my stomach acts up. You can get raw cheese at whole foods - does not taste different - actually better. Raw milk can be found at local farms. Look on the net.

penguin Community Regular
penguin
Posted
What many people don't know is that a lot of people are lactose intolerant due to the pasterization and homogenization of dairy. This kill all the enzymes we need to digest it. 50 years ago when dairy was not pasterized lactose intolerance was almost unheard of. Please go on the net and read about the benefits of raw dairy. I eat only raw cheese with no problems. But give me regular dairy and my stomach acts up. You can get raw cheese at whole foods - does not taste different - actually better. Raw milk can be found at local farms. Look on the net.

In the US, it's hard to find raw cheese, because it's illegal to sell cheese that is aged less than 60 days. Stupid USDA <_<

Raw milk is legal to sell in a little over half the states...

Here's a site with a listing: Open Original Shared Link

ebrbetty Rising Star
ebrbetty
Posted
  • Author

you can get the raw cheese at whole foods? what is the brand name?

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. trents
      - trents replied to BelleDeJour's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      33

      Dermatitis Herpetiformis - follow up dermatology appointment coming up

      Thanks for the explanation about the "brown sauce". I kind of suspected it might be a colloquialism but I wasn't sure. So, are these "brown" and "red" sauces commercial products or home made or can it be either?
    2. suek54
      - suek54 replied to BelleDeJour's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      33

      Dermatitis Herpetiformis - follow up dermatology appointment coming up

      Hi Trents, its a very English thing....there's red sauce (ketchup) and brown sauce, more spicy. People tend to be one or the other. Both usually have malt vinegar in them, so both a no-no for us, unless you hunt for a specified gluten-free make. Hi Belle, Any meat which has been processed is likely to have cereal in it. If someone is having a BBQ,...
    3. trents
      - trents replied to BelleDeJour's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      33

      Dermatitis Herpetiformis - follow up dermatology appointment coming up

      Brown sauce? What's that about? What does the color have to do with anything?
    4. BelleDeJour
      - BelleDeJour replied to BelleDeJour's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      33

      Dermatitis Herpetiformis - follow up dermatology appointment coming up

      Hi @suek54 Good point. I hesitated over what to choose to eat - there were burgers and sausages and I knew that each came with potential wheat possibility. It was my friend who was cooking the BBQ at a local event. It's so tricky, isn't it? I ended up going for the burger and stupidly didn't think about the brown sauce but knew something gluten-containing...
    5. suek54
      - suek54 replied to BelleDeJour's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      33

      Dermatitis Herpetiformis - follow up dermatology appointment coming up

      Hi Belle Oops! Can you eat burgers OK? So many of them have added cereal to pad them out. Hope the after-effects are not too bad? I'm OK. Here in SE UK we are having a mini heatwave. 35° today. Keeping cool as much as possible to prevent itching from the heat. Otherwise not too bad thanks. Dapsone 100mg proving much better than 50mg....
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      134,205
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      10,442
    Cathy Q
    Newest Member
    Cathy Q
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.7k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Dermatitis Herpetiformis - follow up dermatology appointment coming up

      By trents · Posted

      Thanks for the explanation about the "brown sauce". I kind of suspected it might be a colloquialism but I wasn't sure. So, are these "brown" and "red" sauces commercial products or home made or can it be either?
    • suek54
      Dermatitis Herpetiformis - follow up dermatology appointment coming up

      By suek54 · Posted

      Hi Trents, its a very English thing....there's red sauce (ketchup) and brown sauce, more spicy. People tend to be one or the other. Both usually have malt vinegar in them, so both a no-no for us,  unless you hunt for a specified gluten-free make.  Hi Belle, Any meat which has been processed is likely to have cereal in it. If someone is having a BBQ, maybe take a small steak, lamb chop or piece of salmon for yourself. something which has had no processing at all.  No-one will mind, just leave it on a piece of foil so that it doesn't share space with gluten-containing foods.  Avoid all dressings, except olive oil, though again you could always take your own gluten-free version. It sure is a steep learning curve but I'm getting my head round it now.  Sue  
    • trents
      Dermatitis Herpetiformis - follow up dermatology appointment coming up

      By trents · Posted

      Brown sauce? What's that about? What does the color have to do with anything?
    • BelleDeJour
      Dermatitis Herpetiformis - follow up dermatology appointment coming up

      By BelleDeJour · Posted

      Hi @suek54 Good point. I hesitated over what to choose to eat - there were burgers and sausages and I knew that each came with potential wheat possibility. It was my friend who was cooking the BBQ at a local event. It's so tricky, isn't it? I ended up going for the burger and stupidly didn't think about the brown sauce but knew something gluten-containing had been consumed as my legs were itching all over for hours when I went to bed on Sunday. Arrgh!  Actually, my initial thought was corn on the cob as I had that too... and it grows near wheat. Could it also have been that? Are you able to eat that?  I agree with you about the heat, I am finding it tricky too especially at night. I have had 3 itchy nights in a row and am at this point thinking I was silly not to ask about Dapsone at my derm appointment but maybe things will calm down now I am back on being more in control of my food. I also have some more topical steroid coming and that does keep it under control. I plan to visit my son in Scotland for a few days in July so am going to see how things go for a few weeks and if the itch does not calm again, I will do an e-consult with my GP and request Dapsone to try (or something that might just help a bit over that holiday, or longer term). I really don't relish the thought of being in Itch Hell on holiday, just want to enjoy seeing my son and his girlfriend.  So pleased to read that you are feeling more comfortable on the higher dose. I am really pleased for you and long may it continue for you.  
    • suek54
      Dermatitis Herpetiformis - follow up dermatology appointment coming up

      By suek54 · Posted

      Hi Belle Oops!  Can you eat burgers OK? So many of them have added cereal to pad them out.  Hope the after-effects are not too bad? I'm OK. Here in SE UK we are having a mini heatwave. 35° today. Keeping cool as much as possible to prevent itching from the heat. Otherwise not too bad thanks. Dapsone 100mg proving much better than 50mg. Still a few itchy patches but no spots as such. Making life easier.  How are you generally (when not eating brown sauce)? Sue        
×
×
  • Create New...