Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Grocery Store


w8in4dave

Recommended Posts

w8in4dave Community Regular

Sorry if this is in the wrong spot, A mod can move it if it is. 

I was at the small grocery store in town yesterday, when I was checking out the check out girl was looking at all my gluten-free stuff, She said do you have to eat gluten-free?? I said yes I do. I was buying stuff for my Grand Kids that are spending the night. Cookies and stuff, She said They had a client come in and talked to the manager and asked that none of the clerks wear any lotion because it may CC any packaging , and her Grand daughter is highly sensitive, Celiac. I'm like what??? So the people who work at a store cannot wear their fav. Lotion because this lady "Might" come in to buy stuff? Isn't that a lil un reasonable?? I mean this stuff in the packages have been handled way before they made it to the store. I don't understand what reasoning for the girls not to wear any lotion. I mean they may have just got done eating a sandwich, and handled a bag of the cookies I just bought. Or have cookies in their pocket for a snack on break. 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



kareng Grand Master

That is a bit extreme.  Even if the lotion had gluten in it - it is a very teeny amount.  And an even teenyer amount would maybe rub onto a package.  I think the store should just say, thank you for the input and not bother.  I guess everyone coming in the store, including the employees, would not be allowed to eat gluten or touch the bread, flour, cookie packages, too?  I would think that would be a more likely way to get gluten on a package.  UGh!

 

Of course, you have been on here long enough, I think, to see how extreme people can be sometimes.  I think this woman just wants attention and to feel "special"  :wacko:

vickiguerra Rookie

Extreme is right!  I have read so much about cross contamination that I am just about ready to give it up! Make-up, lotion, soap, etc, etc! Even my medication that I am supposed to take everyday...

 

I don't think that we will ever be completely " gluten free"  it's in the air we breath!! GEEZ!

w8in4dave Community Regular

Right!! I have been on here long enuf to see how extreme people can be. This was the Grama of the child, Maybe the mom said no lotions or anything and she flipped out. Yea I know that there is no way one can be 100% Gluten free unless they lived in a bubble and cooked and grew all their own stuff in a bubble! Lol But thats the 1st time I came across a live person being that extreme. And really this store doesn't carry a good lot of gluten-free stuff! It just happened to be on my way to some place eles.I am glad it's not just me that thought that was extreme. 

ravenwoodglass Mentor

So did this ding-bat also insist that all bags of flour be kept out on the loading dock along with any prebaked items like bread, cookies, cakes etc. Does she want a sign posted at the door that says any customer using lotion needs to put on the gloves kept by the entry. Geez.

Not only is this woman a bit extreme but any manager that did anything other than give lip service to her needs training IMHO.

BlessedMommy Rising Star

Yikes, that is really over the top!!

 

The employees would be at higher risk of CC'ing packaging by bringing sandwiches in their lunches and then touching packaging afterward. I doubt that the store would make all employees eat gluten free for lunch.

I figure that the 20 PPM designation for gluten free is there to cover the stuff that is completely out of my control. I'm not going to go through life making myself sick over remote scenarios of cross contamination. I suppose that we could avoid the grocery store 100% because someone may have spilled flour on the conveyer belt or may have touched it with CC'ed hands.  :rolleyes:

flowerqueen Community Regular

That is extreme! We get our groceries delivered to the door and we get the gluten free stuff packed in with the gluten things all the time. If I rang up and asked them not to do that they would think I was a sandwich short of a full picnic


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



cap6 Enthusiast

My goodness.  What does the kid do, lick the packaging? 

squirmingitch Veteran

And it's people like this who are largely responsible for the eye rolls we get when we say we have to eat gluten free. The extremists who are a couple bulbs short of a full pack. Heck, I would roll my eyes at her!

vickiguerra Rookie

And to a newbie like me the extremist's scare the crap out of me!

squirmingitch Veteran

And to a newbie like me the extremist's scare the crap out of me!

I do understand. But just remember --- not everything you read on the internet is true. When you hear or read this off the wall stuff just take a deep breath, calm down, and research for yourself. Come here & ask. I recall when I was a newbie & that kind of extremist talk scares you so you aren't sure what to eat. Or do. Someone once pm'd me saying they get glutened by certain brands of bananas. Seriously. Ummmm, how so? I didn't bother to ask. I knew better than to fall for that one.

vickiguerra Rookie

I feel like I am a logical person so I am trying not to get wound up....all I can do is all I can do :)

mamaw Community Regular

I never  heard  of this!  but  I  have been in  allergist practice  where  there are  signs  no  perfumes, no nuts, no  dairy  are permitted   in this office...a bit  different  than in  a grocery  store....people  can be  so  crazy... for instance  we  were eating  at a Texas  Roadhouse  where  peanuts  are everywhere  &  shells  thrown on the  floor... A couple  of  people  got  seated  next  to us  &  the server  asked  if  they  had ever  been there  before, they  all  say  yes...the  thirteen year  old  or  about  that  age  breaks out into hives  & starts  grasping  for  air  ... the  servers  run over to help  &  the  adults  start  yelling  you  have  peanuts  on  every table this  boy  has a peanut allergy... huh? Why  would  adults  who knew the restaurant  ever  take a kid  into a  place who served  peanuts? An ambulance  rushed  the kid  to the  nearest  hospital...just  stupid....

LauraTX Rising Star

I never  heard  of this!  but  I  have been in  allergist practice  where  there are  signs  no  perfumes, no nuts, no  dairy  are permitted   in this office...a bit  different  than in  a grocery  store....people  can be  so  crazy... for instance  we  were eating  at a Texas  Roadhouse  where  peanuts  are everywhere  &  shells  thrown on the  floor... A couple  of  people  got  seated  next  to us  &  the server  asked  if  they  had ever  been there  before, they  all  say  yes...the  thirteen year  old  or  about  that  age  breaks out into hives  & starts  grasping  for  air  ... the  servers  run over to help  &  the  adults  start  yelling  you  have  peanuts  on  every table this  boy  has a peanut allergy... huh? Why  would  adults  who knew the restaurant  ever  take a kid  into a  place who served  peanuts? An ambulance  rushed  the kid  to the  nearest  hospital...just  stupid....

I have been to a Texas Roadhouse before- long time ago, and they had big yellow signs on the door warning about peanuts.  There is another chain Logan's Roadhouse, that we used to go to a lot pre-celiac days.... and they have the same peanuts all over.  But no warning signs, nothing at all.  I would sit there and ponder how long it will take for someone to die and they get sued.  Seems pretty irresponsible for a big chain.

 

The lotion lady.... seriously?  Way to make us all look bad.  I guess she is okay with the gluten-free flours and mixes being in the same store as flour and stuff. Just silly.  Probably read something on the internet from a shoddy source and took it seriously, because you know, the internet never has anything untrue posted on it!

 

/endrant

w8in4dave Community Regular

Yea!! I couldn't believe it! It is crazy! It is different when there is an allergy.  I wouldn't take my child to a restaurant that throws peanuts around. What were the parents thinking??

mamaw Community Regular

I guess  they  were  not  thinking.....or looking  to  sue   a  restaurant  for college  funds!!!!!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Mari replied to Jmartes71's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      2

      Related issues

    2. - MogwaiStripe replied to annamarie6655's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Airborne Gluten?

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Midwestern's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      16

      Gluten Issues and Vitamin D

    4. - knitty kitty replied to annamarie6655's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      2

      Airborne Gluten?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,243
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Dorfor
    Newest Member
    Dorfor
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Mari
      Hi Jmartes, It sure is difficult to get useful advice from medical providers. Almost 20 years  ago a Dr suggested that I might have Celiacs and I took a Celiac Panel blood test. No gluten challenge diet. On that test the tTG was in normal range but an alpha antibody was very high. I went online and read about celiac disease and saw how I could investigate this low tTG and still have celiac disease. Normal tTG can happen when a person had been reacting for many years. Another way is that the person has not been eating enough gluten to raise the antibody level. Another reason is that the tTG does not show up on a blood but may show up on a fecal test. Almost all Celiacs inherit at least one of the 2 main Celiac genes. I had genetic tests for the Celiac genes at Enterolab.com. I inherited one main Celiac gene from one parent and the report said that the DQ gene I inherited from my other parent, DQ6, could cause a person to have more problems or symptoms with that combination. One of my grandmother's had fairly typical symptoms of Celiacs but the other grandmother had severe food intolerances. I seem to show some problems inherited from both grandmothers. Human physiology is very complex and researchers are just beginning to understand how different body systems interact.  If you have taken an autosomal DNA test you can download your raw data file and upload it to Prometheuw.com for a small fee and search for Celiac Disease. If you don't find any Cekiac genes or information about Celiac disease  you may not have autoimmune gluten intolerance because more than 99% of Celiacs have one or both of these genes.  PLEASE ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT TO KNOW EHAT i HAVE DONE TO HELP WITH SYMPTOMS.  
    • MogwaiStripe
      I can't prove it, but I truly believe I have been glutened by airborne particles. I used to take care of shelter cats once per week at a pet store, and no matter how careful I was, I would get glutened each time even if I wore a mask and gloves and washed up well after I was done. I believe the problem was that because I'm short, I couldn't do the the tasks without getting my head and shoulders inside their cages, and so the particles from their food would be all over my hair and top of my shirt. Then I had to drive home, so even if I didn't get glutened right then, the particles would be in my car just waiting for me to get in the car so they could get blown into my face again. I gave up that volunteer gig and stopped getting glutened so often and at such regular intervals.
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @MogwaiStripe, Vitamin D is turned into its activated forms by Thiamine.  Thiamine deficiency can affect Vitamin D activation. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14913223/ Thiamine deficiency affects HLA genes.  HLA genes code for autoimmune diseases like Celiac, Thyroiditis, Diabetes, etc.  Thiamine deficiency inside a cell triggers a toggle switch on the gene which in turn activates autoimmune diseases carried on the gene.  The reference to the study is in my blog somewhere.  Click on my name to go to my page, scroll down to the drop down menu "Activities" and click on blogs.  
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @annamarie6655, Yes, there's many of us who react to airborne gluten!   Yes, animal feed, whether for chickens or cats or dogs, can release airborne gluten.  I can get glutened from the bakery section at the grocery store.   The nose and mouth drain into the digestive system and can trigger systemic reactions.   I find the histamine release in response to airborne gluten will stuff up my sinuses and bother my eyes.  High histamine levels do cause anxiety and migraines.  The muscle spasms can be caused by high histamine, too.  The digestive system may not manifest symptoms without a higher level of gluten exposure.   Our bodies make an enzyme, DAO (diamine oxidase), to break down histamine.   Pyridoxine B 6, Cobalamine B12, Vitamin C, copper, zinc, and iron are needed to make DAO.  DAO supplements are available over the counter.  Taking a B Complex supplement and additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine or TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) helps reduce the amount of histamine being released.  Mast cells without sufficient Thiamine have an itchy trigger finger and release histamine at the slightest provocation.  Thiamine helps mast cells refrain from releasing their histamine.    I find taking additional TTFD thiamine helps immensely with neurological symptoms as TTFD can easily cross the blood brain barrier without a carrier.  High histamine in the brain can cause the muscle spasms, anxiety and migraines.  Vitamin C really helps with clearing histamine, too.   The Digiorno pizza mystery reaction could have been caused by a reaction to the cheese.  Some people develop lactose intolerance.  Others react to Casein, the protein in dairy, the same as if to gluten because Casein resembles the molecular structure of gluten.  An enzyme used in some dairy products, microbial transglutaminase, causes a gluten reaction because it is the same as the tissue transglutaminase our bodies make except microbes make it.  Those tTg IgA blood tests to diagnose celiac disease measure tissue transglutaminase our bodies release as part of the autoimmune response to gluten.   You're doing great!  A Sherlock Holmes award to you for figuring out the connection between airborne gluten and animal feed!!!  
    • Scott Adams
      This article may be helpful:  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.